US sales: November 2006: BMW, Audi, MB, VW, Porsche

[EnI]

Audi: 9,209 (+16.4%) ... YTD 78,219 (+5.4%)

A4 sales increased, all other models down; 2,019 units of Q7 sold in November (introduction of V6 model boosted sales)!

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BMW Group: 25,889 (-3.6%) ... YTD 280,186 (+0.7%)
BMW: 22,602 (-4.5%) ... YTD 243,487 (+1.6%)
MINI: 3,287 (+3.7%) ... YTD 36,699 (-4.4%)

7er down, 3er also for 160 units, X5 sharply down (unavailability of E53, E70 launched in very end of November), other models up.

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MB: 22,079 (+20.8%) ... YTD 219,678 (+13.9%)

S-class & CL class sharply up; E-, R- GL- (new model!) & ML-class up; other models down; still behind BMW sales!

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VW: 17,082 (-5.3%) ... YTD 215,198 (+8.6%)

All models down, except Eos & Rabbit (new models! Not available in Nov 2005!).

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Porsche: 2,611 (-2%) ... YTD 31,377 (+8%)

 

[EnI]

Re: US sales: November 2007: BMW, Audi, MB, VW, Porsche

Interesting:

Lexus: 26,719 (+4.2%) ... YTD 285,199 (+6.5%)

All models down (incl. IS!), only ES & LS (LS sharply up - new Mk!) up.


November sales, luxury sedans:

Lexus LS: 3,613
MB S-class: 2,780
BMW 7er: 1,209
Audi A8: 362


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Woldwide sales numbers will be available next week (Monday or Tuesday, I hope).

 

[Bruce]

Re: US sales: November 2007: BMW, Audi, MB, VW, Porsche

Lexus LS: 3,613
MB S-class: 2,780
BMW 7er: 1,209
Audi A8: 362

Glad to see the LS460 doing well

Thanks for all of the numbers Tine.

 

[Yperion]

Re: US sales: November 2007: BMW, Audi, MB, VW, Porsche

Glad to see the LS460 doing well

That makes one of us...

 

[Centurion]

Re: US sales: November 2007: BMW, Audi, MB, VW, Porsche

Glad to see the LS460 doing well

That's because it has recently been launched. I'm pretty confident the sales will slip gradually

 

[Bruce]

Re: US sales: November 2007: BMW, Audi, MB, VW, Porsche

That makes one of us...

Of course

That's because it has recently been launched. I'm pretty confident the sales will slip gradually

Most certaintly, it doesn't matter that the LS460 has higher sales this month because i highly doubt it has overall world sales (actually i know it doesn't) anywhere close to what the S-Class or 7er have achieved.

Anyways, i'm still happy

 

[Merc1]

Re: US sales: November 2007: BMW, Audi, MB, VW, Porsche

Audi and Mercedes on first last month.

M

 

[NarutoRamen]

Re: US sales: November 2007: BMW, Audi, MB, VW, Porsche

On the other hand. Part of the reason why the sales for the LS are higher than the S is due to the fact that it is cheaper...like a lot cheaper.

 

[Merc1]

Re: US sales: November 2007: BMW, Audi, MB, VW, Porsche

Exactly. It starts in the mid 60's while the S starts at nearly 90K.

M

 

[Mr. M]

Re: US sales: November 2007: BMW, Audi, MB, VW, Porsche

Glad to see the LS460 doing well

Thanks for all of the numbers Tine.

I'm right with you man, the LS deserves praise. Unlike the LS430 which was quite a bland product, I think the LS460 really puts itself neck-on-neck with its German counterparts.

I have no reason not to believe that the LS will be a US sales leader for the following months.

 

[Bruce]

Re: US sales: November 2007: BMW, Audi, MB, VW, Porsche

I'm right with you man, the LS deserves praise. Unlike the LS430 which was quite a bland product, I think the LS460 really puts itself neck-on-neck with its German counterparts.

I have no reason not to believe that the LS will be a US sales leader for the following months.

I think it will do quite well for the next few months and i think: A. because it's obviously newer, B. it's cheaper and C. it's a good car

I don't think people should count Lexus out as a serious contender (in the US anyways).. you've got admit it's a great effort by Lexus. The big three German executive saloons will always sell like crazy but i highly doubt Jaguar, Infiniti or Cadillac has ever beat the German's in sale figures (for a month) when it comes to the executive saloon category (unless i'm wrong, anybody correct me )

 

[JRB11784]

Re: US sales: November 2007: BMW, Audi, MB, VW, Porsche

Those Lexus LS numbers are a little misleading. The sales numbers include both the deeply discounted LS430, and the LS460. Most of the sales in November were the 430's.

 

[Bruce]

Re: US sales: November 2007: BMW, Audi, MB, VW, Porsche

Those Lexus LS numbers are a little misleading. The sales numbers include both the deeply discounted LS430, and the LS460. Most of the sales in November were the 430's.

I did not know that, I'll wait for next months figures for a better comparsion

 

[PHYBENZ]

Re: US sales: November 2007: BMW, Audi, MB, VW, Porsche

No way LS460 sold that much. Here are the specific numbers:

---- CURRENT MONTH ---- -- CALENDAR YEAR TO DATE --
DSR % DSR %

2006 2005 CHG 2006 2005 CHG


LS 430/460 3,613 1,670 116.3 15,681 23,723 -33.9

 

[Bruce]

Re: US sales: November 2007: BMW, Audi, MB, VW, Porsche

No way LS460 sold that much. Here are the specific numbers:

LS 430/460 3,613 1,670 116.3 15,681 23,723 -33.9

Ahh, alright,

So Lexus sold 1,670 LS460's..or am i reading it wrong..?

 

[EnI]

Re: US sales: November 2007: BMW, Audi, MB, VW, Porsche

Ahh, alright,

So Lexus sold 1,670 LS460's..or am i reading it wrong..?

No. 1,670 is a number of LS units sold in November 2005.

Lexus / Toyota haven't specified 430 & 460 sales numbers, but since LS460 was available already in October 2006 (in Oct 2,019 units of LS430/460 were sold - up 33 pct from Oct 2005), I'm sure almost most LS models sold in November 2006 are LS460 - since it was available through entire November + there are not many 430 on the lot anymore.

Do not forget LS is favorite US luxury sedan by far. And 3,613 units is a normal number. Expect even more to be sold monthly in the next months - even far over 4,000.

Americans love Lexus - especially ES, LS & RX.

 

[PHYBENZ]

Re: US sales: November 2007: BMW, Audi, MB, VW, Porsche

Lexus sold a total of 3613 LS's (LS 430 & LS 460) this November. Last November they sold 1670 LS's. This year through November they have sold 15681 LS's and last year through November they had sold 23723, so that is a 33.9% decrease in sales.

 

[Bruce]

Re: US sales: November 2007: BMW, Audi, MB, VW, Porsche

No. 1,670 is a number of LS units sold in November 2005.

Lexus / Toyota haven't specified 430 & 460 sales numbers, but since LS460 was available already in October 2006 (in Oct 2,019 units of LS430/460 were sold - up 33 pct from Oct 2005), I'm sure almost most LS models sold in November 2006 are LS460 - since it was available through entire November + there are not many 430 on the lot anymore.

Ah i see it, of course, 3,613 LS' sold this November and 1,670 last November.

Americans love Lexus - especially ES, LS & RX.

They certaintly do and i'm most certain North America in Lexus' strongest market. I know the RX is huge in North America and as a resident i can confirm it, they are everywhere.

Thanks for the explanation Tine

 

[Merc1]

Re: US sales: November 2007: BMW, Audi, MB, VW, Porsche

Well today is the day. We should be getting the year end totals and Dec sales! I bet MB sold about 35k units last month!

M