4 Series [Spyshots] F36 BMW 4er Gran Coupe (Spy Pics & Info)

[mini_cooper4]

Hold up.... 7'1"? Or are you using some weird European measuring metric?

If so, you must have helluva long leg to torso combo to fit into a Gallardo! My head is practically sticking out the sunroof in one.

Had no money for a Spyder And yeah it was a weird European measure called weird humour

 

[SCOTT27]

Sorry know this is slightly off-topic but what will be the i3/i8s codenames? Or will they even have them? Back on topic, will BMW consider an 8-Series based on the next gen CFRP/Aluminium intensive structure? And would the new X7 be based on the forthcoming F15, or the next-gen 7 Series?​

The i3 and i8 are simply known as i3 and i8.

If you are wanting a large Coupe in the mold of the old E31 8er , then you already have the successor its called the 6er. The 6er fullfills the brief of a large GT coupe.
If you want a V12 Coupe like a rival for the Mercedes-Benz CL/S-Klasse Coupe? Then you have to wait for the upcoming Rolls-Royce Ghost Coupe which will be a more sports orientated model than before but still with that Rolls-Royce ambience and exclusivity.
The Rolls-Royce Ghost Coupe will also be joined by a DropHead Coupe model adding a more romantic open-to the elements experience.
Both models have been previewed by special customers who have since put deposits down for these new models in the opportunity to be first. We expect these models to be very popular on launch perhaps on a par with the Ghost which means you to still have to wait around 12 months for a Ghost due to demand.
Expect Coupe and drophead Coupe to be even longer.

Should BMW consider an automobile above the 7er it will be a four door like the CS , progress in the global market has determined that.
I am not entirely sure if the X7 is based on the new modular architecture developed from the X5 to accomodate the next generation of BMW SAV's with key material technology used from the next 7er larger car family.
The X7 is a big car that kind of looks like a larger Touring , a comparison with the Audi Q7 is fair. But The BMW is more sporty looking with its swept back roof which adopts a kind of floating roof like the MINI or indeed a Range Rover at the a-pillar.
The car is deliberately not meant to imitate the Range Rover interms of outline , like the Bentley that looks as if the English Footballers wives traced over a Range Rover with crayons for the details.
But luxury will be on a par with both , The BMW will also have exclusivity with a V12 engine , although BMW will concentrate more on the on-road aspects like all X models , although off-road prowness will be durable.​

 

[Hofmeister]

like the Bentley that looks as if the English Footballers wives traced over a Range Rover with crayons for the details.​

LOL! Thanks Scott

 

[SCOTT27]

French auto publication L'Argus has produced a very realistic rendering of the BMW 4er Coupe.
Traced from one of the prototypes.
Having stripped away the fake panels underneath the camouflage to reveal the aperature of the rear door which in typical classic BMW four-door style incorporates the Hofmeister within the glass.

Effectively the ideas are similar from the 6er Gran Coupe... But the car is effectively a four door 4er Coupe.

A slightly longer wheelbase and elongated roof panel and an increase in height but still lower than the equivalent 3er Sedan marks out this four door.
A sleek stylish appearance. Sports-enthused dynamic proficiency and high level of luxury and individuality are "downsized" for the entry segment.

BMW are currently in a marketing assessement and evaluation in regards to a 2er Gran Coupe model
based upon the upcoming Coupe but with an elongated roofline which is inherited from the upcoming 2er Coupe. Primarily aimed at the Mercedes-Benz CLA and its shooting brake twin , BMW are also investigating an Active Tourer Concept designed to show BMW's creativity in developing interesting niche models for existing segments.

The best way to describe the direction the car is taking is to think of a Hyundai Veloster with the classic Coupe-esque rear of the 1600/2002 Touring model , including a rear hinged rear door.

The sketches being produced are very interesting in terms of ideas being put down on paper.

 

[mini_cooper4]

^You can see my dream car rendered there!!!!
I really hope it will look very similar to this
One thing's for sure my next BMW will be an M4 but still don't know wether it will be a coupe, cabrio or the GC

PS: I still have high hopes for the 2er too

 

[K-A]

Based on that render, it won't have frameless windows, is that true?

 

[klier]

No.

 

[Foxfire]

For me, part of what makes a coupe experience special is the typically frameless windows. It'd be a shame if 4er GC would not follow this design trait (as was missed in X6, amongst other things).

 

[Levi68]

For me, part of what makes a coupe experience special is the typically frameless windows. It'd be a shame if 4er GC would not follow this design trait (as was missed in X6, amongst other things).

+1

 

[EnI]

5th door? A hatch? It seems very much so! Look at the inner cut line in the D-pillar.

With clearly visible C-pillar (1) and rear seat belt housing positioned behind the pillar and below the 3rd side window (2):

That means C-pillar is real, and the rear door opens to C-pillar only (like on GTs, Tourings & SAVs/SACs), not to D pillar (like on sedans or 6er Gran Coupe).

 

[klier]

Based on that render, it won't have frameless windows, is that true?

Based on the photos above, I'm not sure anymore...

And btw, Eni, I''m not sure what you're trying to show???


It appears to have a third side window after all, no?

 

[EnI]

Based on the photos above, I'm not sure anymore...
And btw, Eni, I''m not sure what you're trying to show???
Edit; never, mind, I get it. Here's a better pic:
It appears to have a third side window after all, no?

I'm trying to show the inner cut line in the D-pillar.Check it ou how it looks eg. on 5er GT: http://www.worldcarfans.com/111052333613/bmw-5-series-gt---officially-a-mistake/highphotos#18

Meaning the rear window opens together with the trunk lid ( = hatch door aka 5th door). And, yes there is a 3rd side window there, and therefore D-pillar as well.

Meaning 4er GC is actually a 4er GT after all: a hatchback/fastback 5dr coupe ala A5 Sportback.

Or perhaps BMW invested a lot in a fake interior camo (fake C-pillar, fake 3rd side window, fake seat belt housing under the fake 3rd side window, fake inner cladding of fake D-pillar - showing fake cut line) to make 4dr 4er GC looking like a 5dr coupe, a hatchback/fastback. But I see no point in such act. It's much more likely 4er GC is actually a 4er GT with 4 doors, not a GC with 4 doors like 6er GC.

PS: there will be frameless windows on 4er GC /GT - check the missing cut line in the B-pillar on the prototype in the spy pics. The render is wrong since it features it ... just like the "framefull" 3er Sedan in the spy photo. 3er GT comes with frameless windows as well.

 

[K-A]

Wow, this is getting confusing! So there won't be a 4 GC after all, but a 4 GT, AND a 3 GT? Maybe a bit overzealous pushing of the GT line by BMW? I mean, the 3 and 4 are the same car right?

I kind of don't like the idea of a 4 GC that looks like a 6 GC "mini". IMO if the 6 GC wants to really push upmarket to be considered a flagship model of sorts, it would be nice if it would remain BMW's sole "4 Door Coupe", as unlikely as it may be.

 

[Levi68]

I don't like the idea of a 4 GT. That is such a clear "copy" of Audi A5 SB.

 

[SCOTT27]

The car is definitely a 4er Gran Coupe the exposed interior panels that make you think of a bootlid are what can sometimes be found under the interior covering as soundproofing before the metal structure as full interior fittings are not essential at this point.
If you remember the Gran Turismo interior with the trim that you thought was real , it is the same thing but it is not essential for early development cars.

One thing you should look at is that the Audi A5 Sportback is not sold in the USA because of the US Aversion to hatches.
For BMW to do so would rule out the US Market entirely which is why it needs to be a 4dr. Also why have a GT 5dr and a Gran Coupe 5dr? This car is getting immense exposure so they are prolonging the debate.
The 4er Gran Coupe is based on the 2dr Coupe which is not a hatch also.
If you also look closer towards the rear you can ask why is there panelling cover the rear doors , the outline of the door actually extends further towards the rear and the pillar in the actual door is false. On some photographs you can actually trace the outline where the sunlights hits the rear of the car.

 

[Levi68]

The car is definitely a 4er Gran Coupe the exposed interior panels that make you think of a bootlid are what can sometimes be found under the interior covering as soundproofing before the metal structure as full interior fittings are not essential at this point.
If you remember the Gran Turismo interior with the trim that you thought was real , it is the same thing but it is not essential for early development cars.

One thing you should look at is that the Audi A5 Sportback is not sold in the USA because of the US Aversion to hatches.
For BMW to do so would rule out the US Market entirely which is why it needs to be a 4dr. Also why have a GT 5dr and a Gran Coupe 5dr? This car is getting immense exposure so they are prolonging the debate.
The 4er Gran Coupe is based on the 2dr Coupe which is not a hatch also.
If you also look closer towards the rear you can ask why is there panelling cover the rear doors , the outline of the door actually extends further towards the rear and the pillar in the actual door is false. On some photographs you can actually trace the outline where the sunlights hits the rear of the car.

Thanks for clearing out. I hope you are right. I see no point in having both 3GT and 4GT.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Also why have a GT 5dr and a Gran Coupe 5dr?

By that reasoning, why have a 4dr sedan and a 4dr GC?

By the looks of it, a 4dr GC is going to be closer to the standard 4dr sedan than a 5dr GC would be to a 5dr GT.

 

[Levi68]

By that reasoning, why have a 4dr sedan and a 4dr GC?

More like having both A4 Sportback and A5 Sportback.

By the looks of it, a 4dr GC is going to be closer to the standard 4dr sedan than a 5dr GC would be to a 5dr GT.

That is good, it is so how it ought to be.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

That is good, it is so how it ought to be.

I agree. Just don't understand Scott's reasoning that there is no need for a 5dr GC when there's a 5dr GT, yet there's going to be a 4dr GC when there's a 4dr sedan.

 

[Hofmeister]

I agree. Just don't understand Scott's reasoning that there is no need for a 5dr GC when there's a 5dr GT, yet there's going to be a 4dr GC when there's a 4dr sedan.

There is no 4Dr sedan, in the land of 4 Series there exists a coupe and convertible, the GC is supposed to be a more practical, but no less attractive alternative to these cars. Then in the 3er range you have the saloon, estate and mix-of -both GT.
Simple