C-Class W206 [Spy Shots] 2021 Mercedes-Benz C-Class W206 spied pics & info thread

[Deleted member 1071]

I actually preferred my E30 318 iS over its' predecessor, an E30 320i. That 16V, 1.8L, 136PS il4 was sweeet.

 

[Shellshock]

I am really curious how much will the price bump gets with W206....

Here at my dealer, ive been told the W206 the base price will be around 2200 euro more than the former W205 with the around same engine power

 

[Shellshock]

The W206 interior definitely looks more expensive compared to the W205, even though the steps taken in the redesign are evolutionary.
The attention to detail looks really good. I did not think I would like it as much from the "bare- bones" spy shots some were complaining about. (another reason not to judge before a car breaks cover!)
The door panels also look good IMO. I personally do not care about wood panels in the doors.
In the case of the C, this is a minimalists design approach. Minimalism is the new design theme.

Totally agree....but with just 1 thing...that "no wood/aluminium panel" will force, or at least it will look ugly at basics C class cars....without seat adjusment, heat/cool seat...it will be just a big piano black panel with door handle..i dont know in other countries but here in east EU will start by default with seat heating, and for an 720 euro option, the front seat adjustment ...i think this is a given

 

[Mick Briesgau]

Let's also remember this new C is just around as big as an S class of that time.
I have ample experience with the G20 330i, and while not lacking anything, it definitely is no inline 6. Which I vastly prefer. Quite frankly, a 4 pot doesn't belong in a luxury car at all.

W126 length 4.995 meter vs W206 4.751.
I can understand putting a 4 cylinder in a compact sedan like a C Klasse. In my conservative mind it's like this: C = 4 cylinder/E = 6 cylinder /S = 8 cylinder
Of course I prefer a 6 over a 4, but then again, in this class, it seems to fit.

 

[Luca]

Maybe today we miss some photos of the new c-class station wagon

 

[klier]

W126 length 4.995 meter vs W206 4.751.
I can understand putting a 4 cylinder in a compact sedan like a C Klasse.

Thing is, there is absolutely nothing compact about cars in this class. The G20 3er is absolutely massive, and the new W206 will be just as big. Big cars. Not to mention heavy.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

Thing is, there is absolutely nothing compact about cars in this class. The G20 3er is absolutely massive, and the new W206 will be just as big. Big cars. Not to mention heavy.

Comparatively compact, within the line up (C/E/S/ or 3/5/7). Objectively speaking, the C and 3er aren't compact indeed, far from it. The W201/190 was a compact sedan: lxbxh 4.42 x 1.678 (!) x 1.361.

 

[Luca]

Intended for the American market?

 

[PHYBENZ]

I wish, though they said it’s for the Chinese market

 

[Deleted member 1071]

In defense of smaller displacement 4 cylinder engines:

The progress of research and development in the fields and metallurgy, ceramics , lubricants and electronic mapping have made the application of smaller 4 cylinders in larger, premium automobiles far more viable. Of course, the charm of a formidable il 6 or V8 is not to be diminished. Yet still, I can undestand the "wisdom" of offering cars such as the C-Class in "4 cylinder only" specification. This holds especially true on the threshold of a new era in which BEVs will eventually dominate.

 

[Shellshock]

In defense of smaller displacement 4 cylinder engines:

The progress of research and development in the fields and metallurgy, ceramics , lubricants and electronic mapping have made the application of smaller 4 cylinders in larger, premium automobiles far more viable. Of course, the charm of a formidable il 6 or V8 is not to be diminished. Yet still, I can undestand the "wisdom" of offering cars such as the C-Class in "4 cylinder only" specification. This holds especially true on the threshold of a new era in which BEVs will eventually dominate.

Agree but the question is....is this just the beginning ? Is Mercedes somehow telling us whats the future of their non-electri line-up? The next E class also will have only 4 cylinder?
Whats your opinion ?

 

[Serpens]

Agree but the question is....is this just the beginning ? Is Mercedes somehow telling us whats the future of their non-electri line-up? The next E class also will have only 4 cylinder?
Whats your opinion ?

I fully expect the E-class to have a V8 available in AMG trim just like the S-class, next-gen SL, and next-gen AMG GT given that it starts over $100k. All trims below that? Fair game for 4 cylinder power I suspect.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

Agree but the question is....is this just the beginning ? Is Mercedes somehow telling us whats the future of their non-electri line-up? The next E class also will have only 4 cylinder?
Whats your opinion ?

As far as M-B ICE automobiles go, I suspect that this may indeed be the route that will be taken before ICEs' have been completely culled from the line-up. Perhaps the V8s' now offered in the W/V223, X290 and the upcoming top-tier AMG SLs' will be the last before M-B goes fully electric. As for the W215 E-Class: There has been so little news regarding developments that I am beginning to wonder whether that it will be little more than a "larger W206" that is virtually identical under the sheetmetal. Including the "4 cylinder only" configuration.

I also viewed a vlog earlier today in which it was stated that M-B will replace the W/V223 in 2028 with a BEV successor which will retain the "S-Class" nomenclature. This car may thus render an EQS successor superfluous.

 

[chonkoa]

Agreed and let’s remember that the first compact 4 door saloon (W201 aka 190) initially had 4 cylinder engines only. Only later on (1985) the 190 2.6 was introduced. I for one wouldn’t have minded a 190E 2.3-16...

And they didn't weigh as much.

 

[MrRapp]

Sure you can achieve similar power output with 4 cylinder engines nowadays but it’s the smoothness of the power displacement and sound which you cannot replicate. Owning an inline 6 currently, I cannot imagine going back to a 4-pot, in that case I’d just might settle for a BEV to achieve a similar level of smoothness.

 

[empower77]

.... and in other news Lexus just dropped a V8 in it’s ‘new’ IS; the 500; with 472hp. Game on lads!

 

[Eng.ahad]

what do you mean an 50k $ in price increase? in EU we got around 6k euro increased...the W222 started from 97k euro, and now the W223 is starting from 103k euro
50k$ increase is too massive....or maybe i didnt understood what you wanted to say

This is exactly what I was about to say, W222 started from 400K SAR (Saudi Riyals) which is around 106K $, the W223 starts at 600k SAR which is around 160K $.

One information that I forgot to mention, is that some in price increase is due to the new 15% tax increase, so its around 45k $ increase over W222 to be precise.

I'm still not sure is it due to Saudi getting high features as standard ? this could be one of the tricks that our ''Greedy'' dealer is doing.

 

[empower77]

This is exactly what I was about to say, W222 started from 400K SAR (Saudi Riyals) which is around 106K $, the W223 starts at 600k SAR which is around 160K $.

One information that I forgot to mention, is that some in price increase is due to the new 15% tax increase, so its around 45k $ increase over W222 to be precise.

I'm still not sure is it due to Saudi getting high features as standard ? this could be one of the tricks that our ''Greedy'' dealer is doing.

Price gouging? Early car markups?

 

[Eng.ahad]

Price gouging? Early car markups?

Possibly, but it seems it is the official dealer price.

From what I see at Mercedes Saudi, the dealer seems to get very high profit margins, Mercs are much higher priced than its competitors including BMW and Audis.

outside dealership, S500 was sold at 250k$, which is crazy but that's just black market price. Stupid people paying this amount just to feel special for couple of weeks before car arrives at the dealer.

 

[Der Hofmeister]

While the new dashboard is indeed a sweet spot, I am not sure about the exterior. The new design is just too soft and looking awkward and unbalanced in many places. I am not sure if I change my opinion after seeing HD res pics. The rear end looks particularly small and confined, like it came straight from the low-end A-Class Limousine. In what the front end is concerned, itsimply has no personality at all - the W 205 or even W 204 are eons better. The AMG Line is a must, though it is a far cry from what it should be.

Anyway, I guess it will sell quite well, enough to justify its existence, but likely “no cigar” when it comes to properly battling the 3 Series class benchmark.