M3/M4 (SportAuto) And the M3 GTS Nurburgring lap time is....

[Zafiro]

^ If you believe the 7:50 time for the CSL is typical then find me anyone that repeated it, plus if you do, well then you all have to conclude that BMW have failed on an epic scale with the GTS. Sorry but I don't believe that because the stats and times else where suggest it's much superior than the CSL.

I believe M3 CSL did 7.50 min and how the heck Im I going to find more M3 CSL N-ring tests? such tests doesnt grow on trees And why do I want to find more tests? Im not the one discredit the CSL. M3 CSL was tested on perfect conditions for the car, thats why the time is impressive. And I have noting to say about GTS because Im disappointed with the laptime but I know for a fact that the test with GTS was done a different year with other variables involved. A laptime isnt 100% comparable with others unless it was done the same day.

And Im getting sick of you and your bmw bashing. Make this claims about cars from Vw, audi and porsche and I migth forget you for all the anti-bmw-propaganda you having everywhere on the net. This is getting redicolous.

 

[Sunny]

LoL footie. Member 7:53 RS6 owned you in that thread Your anti-bmw-campaign goes a couple of years back, still haven't changed. .

Getting owned by people with facts is nothing new to him. But unfortunately he is so fcuking shameless or enjoys trolling so much, he just keeps coming back for more. Just look at this thread, how many places does he makes unsubstantiated claims and multiple people ask him for proof and he conveniently skips it, and goes on to next bs.

 

[Tumbo]

Just a question. So the R8 V10 , beat the M3 GTS on the ring?

 

[Zafiro]

Just a question. So the R8 V10 , beat the M3 GTS on the ring?

yes but ask Footie first, perhaps the R8 was a ringer

 

[footie]

I have openly stated how disappointed I am with the times the RS5 is doing. What more do you want from me?

It's not bashing, it's trying to understand why one car performs way better on one track compared to other times set on other tracks. And by the way the GTS time is right on the money against the times it is doing else where.

 

[footie]

yes but ask Footie first, perhaps the R8 was a ringer

I will answer this, even though it's getting OT.

Has the R8v10 posted better times than the GTS else where?

 

[Zafiro]

I will answer this, even though it's getting OT.

Has the R8v10 posted better times than the GTS else where?

I dont know and I dont care. I just know that M3 CSL did it in 7.50 min in sportauto supertest. I dont need more 'evidence'.

 

[Tumbo]

Can anybody confirm my qustion? As I remember, the R8 V10 did it in around 7:45?

 

[south]

Can anybody confirm my qustion? As I remember, the R8 V10 did it in around 7:45?

Since you ask so friendly, it did it in 7:44.


Best regards,
south

 

[Tumbo]

Since you ask so friendly, it did it in 7:44.


Best regards,
south

Thanx for the answer.
I'm proud of Audi. Damn... who could imagine 10 years ago, that en Audi would beat the fastest thing that BMW has, on the best track in the world...

 

[Zafiro]

Can anybody confirm my qustion? As I remember, the R8 V10 did it in around 7:45?

I answer your question in this post. Did you miss my post?

http://www.germancarforum.com/3-series/34225-sportauto-m3-gts-nurburgring-lap-time-5.html#post477073

 

[south]

Some posts have been deleted, and the thread has been re-opened.


Best regards,
south

 

[footie]

Firstly I would like to say that I am not trying to run down the ability of the CSL or the achieve this car was for BMW, as in many eyes it's still the greatest M3, even after the launch of the GTS. All I am trying to suggest is not that the lap was fake, not at all, more a case that certain things clicked surprisingly well for it to achieve a 7:50 lap.

Now to the actual lap time that the GTS did, I'm of the impression that it's time achieved seems to be in line what it's done at other tracks. The only thing that has surprised me and I mentioned on the other thread would the amount of understeer it had, most unexpected.

 

[Zafiro]

Firstly I would like to say that I am not trying to run down the ability of the CSL or the achieve this car was for BMW, as in many eyes it's still the greatest M3, even after the launch of the GTS. All I am trying to suggest is not that the lap was fake, not at all, more a case that certain things clicked surprisingly well for it to achieve a 7:50 lap.

Really? Cause I was under the impression that you didn't believe in the time.
You dont miscredit BMW's greatest without a punishment. CLS did it in 7.50 min, period.

 

[DeDe]

Firstly I would like to say that I am not trying to run down the ability of the CSL or the achieve this car was for BMW, as in many eyes it's still the greatest M3, even after the launch of the GTS. All I am trying to suggest is not that the lap was fake, not at all, more a case that certain things clicked surprisingly well for it to achieve a 7:50 lap.

Now to the actual lap time that the GTS did, I'm of the impression that it's time achieved seems to be in line what it's done at other tracks. The only thing that has surprised me and I mentioned on the other thread would the amount of understeer it had, most unexpected.

Horst von Saurma mentioned that the CSL's first gen-Cup tyres were much grippier on the dry than today's Cups or Corsas. That's all. And that's why the first gen-Cups were a bit dangerous on the wet.
On today's Cups the CSL would be seconds slower...

 

[PanterroR]

CLS did it in 7.50 min, period.

No, CSL did it...

 

[Zafiro]

Horst von Saurma mentioned that the CSL's first gen-Cup tyres were much grippier on the dry than today's Cups or Corsas. That's all. And that's why the first gen-Cups were a bit dangerous on the wet.
On today's Cups the CSL would be seconds slower...

Don't forget the limited topspeed. Delimit and shave another 2 seconds on the lap.

 

[francio]

Horst von Saurma mentioned that the CSL's first gen-Cup tyres were much grippier on the dry than today's Cups or Corsas. That's all.



Infact tyres can make difference;

OT
Why magazines don't test "sport" tyres as pilot sport cup, pzero corsa, ecc.?
For example i know that sport cup are faster than pzero corsa, but reading this on internet.