XM [Rumors] BMW X8 plans

[leylandi]

Ferrari has introduced a true supersport SUV. BMW will name a hummer body M.

 

[SCOTT27]

Ferrari has introduced a true supersport SUV. BMW will name a hummer body M.

Different strokes for different folks.
The XM could possibly be just as popular as the Ferrari. Both are for the new era of Sport enthused SAV’s. Not fully electric or part as of XM. It opens up an interesting question?

What direction do the competition go now?
Especially when some luxury manufacturers have already played their cards.

 

[dalab]

Different strokes for different folks.

Why do you bother answering him?

The XM could possibly be just as popular as the Ferrari.

Demographically it targets a much broader market and will be much more popular due to its interior space, price and concept, the Ferrari is going for a slice of the 5,000 Urus per year and this one for a slice of the incredible 45,000/50,000 G-class per year.

 

[Matski]

slice of the incredible 45,000/50,000 G-class per year.

I doubt BMW are expecting anything like that to be honest. For starters, the G-Class starts off with a 4 cylinder 2 litre engine and has a 40+ year fan base, but also the exclusive versions of the X7 that Dr. Robertson alluded to (that never appeared), had predicted volumes barely in the thousands, if that. The market for over priced ugly high performance super SUV's is only so big, and not all G-Class sales are part of that, so I don't think it represents that market share the XM wants a piece of. I'd say it's maybe in the 5-10k unit range if they're lucky - and that's mostly going to come from all the show-off 150k cars, not just the G-Class.

 

[SCOTT27]

XM is not about volume. It's more of making a statement. No matter what the reaction? XM will certainly leave a lasting impression.

 

[leylandi]

the G-Class starts off with a 4 cylinder 2 litre engine

china only

 

[leylandi]

Why do you bother answering him?

You're a little shy because you're always wrong when you answer me. Don't try to make yourself happy by trying to push other people away from me.

 

[Matski]

china only

And? Are Chinese units not included in sales figures?

 

[Grosser]

I doubt BMW are expecting anything like that to be honest. For starters, the G-Class starts off with a 4 cylinder 2 litre engine and has a 40+ year fan base, but also the exclusive versions of the X7 that Dr. Robertson alluded to (that never appeared), had predicted volumes barely in the thousands, if that. The market for over priced ugly high performance super SUV's is only so big, and not all G-Class sales are part of that, so I don't think it represents that market share the XM wants a piece of. I'd say it's maybe in the 5-10k unit range if they're lucky - and that's mostly going to come from all the show-off 150k cars, not just the G-Class.

Since it's BMW XM, it should be compared to G63 IMO

G-Class starts off with a 4 cylinder 2 litre engine

Well, I can only find G500 on Chinese MB website so this statement doesn't count

 

[Matski]

Since it's BMW XM, it should be compared to G63 IMO

That's fine, I'm confident when it comes time to compare sales numbers of the G-Class and XM you will only include G63 (or higher)

Well, I can only find G500 on Chinese MB website so this statement doesn't count

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Perhaps they only sold a handful, I'm sure I'm as curious as you are to see the numbers.

 

[dalab]

You're a little shy because you're always wrong when you answer me. Don't try to make yourself happy by trying to push other people away from me.

Because I already took the time to answer you, consciously and respectfully about that "Hummer" comment and as if nothing, you repeat the same to see what provokes, as I say it is not worth responding to these things, I was wrong to do so

 

[leylandi]

That's fine, I'm confident when it comes time to compare sales numbers of the G-Class and XM you will only include G63 (or higher)

The G-Class and XM have nothing in common and are not rivals. I don't understand why you are comparing. The G series is an iconic car designed for off-road driving. If the AMG department prepares a special SUV then it may be possible. There is currently no car to compare XM to Mercedes.

 

[klier]

That's fine, I'm confident when it comes time to compare sales numbers of the G-Class and XM you will only include G63 (or higher)

Isn't 'XM' just the M version of the upcoming X8, which will come in mundane Diesel engines too?

 

[Grosser]

That's fine, I'm confident when it comes time to compare sales numbers of the G-Class and XM you will only include G63 (or higher)

I wouldn't compare apples to oranges, but I said IMO the more reasonable way is maybe that way

I'm sure I'm as curious as you are

Nope, I'm not curious at all...

 

[leylandi]

Isn't 'XM' just the M version of the upcoming X8, which will come in mundane Diesel engines too?

There will be no model called the X8. It will only be sold as an M car. It will probably only be sold with the V8.

 

[Matski]

I don't understand why you are comparing.

It's evident why I mentioned the G-Class if you take the time to read conversation - it's also evident if you take the time to read the conversation that I stated I didn't believe the G-class was specifically the market the XM was targeting. So, I dunno, maybe read the things people say if you want to understand why they are saying them?

Isn't 'XM' just the M version of the upcoming X8, which will come in mundane Diesel engines too?

G09 XM 50e (I6 B58+Hybrid ~313-381hp? I've lost track of what they're badging as what, based on G70 perhaps it will be XM 60e?)
G09 XM (V8 S68+Hybrid ~650hp)
G09 XM "Black Label" (V8 S68+Hybrid ~740hp)

I don't think there's been any sign of X8 being used on anything, certainly Horatiu quashed that speculation last year.

Nope, I'm not curious at all...

I am. Always curious about proper numbers.

 

[Grosser]

I am. Always curious about proper numbers.

Since I don't see it on their official page, probably is discounted and we will never know

 

[Jacke]

XM vs G63 no question at it ,its about Luxury vs ShowOff mafia car

 

[leylandi]

@Matski calm down son.

 

[Jacke]

We will see the Beautiful or the Beast unveiled on Sept 28 .