Poll Rolls-Royce Dawn vs Mercedes-Benz S-Class Cabriolet

[LaArtist]

i like to drive, so ile take the benz.

also i do not live in monaco or hollywood...

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

Because it is. Lacking some technical equipment doesn't mean anything. Your 10 point list is silly and your no 1 is most silly.

I'd have to disagree. I still think this comparison makes very little sense, especially when one considers the price of each car. But GTA's points really sum up why there's very little overlap between the two. One car's main character is that it's a technical showcase that appeals to people who value technology over theater. The other is resplendent in luxury that, while lacking some of the technical features of S-Cabrio, it more than makes it up with other features and a greater sense of occasion.

I do not think that GTA's points are invalid, as those are things he values. To have a 0.29 Cd for a droptop is pretty darn impressive. But I think the Dawn comes with night vision available and heated steering and seats (don't know about door panel or armrest). Also I am sure the RR has its own radar-based system that can also detect pedestrians and a roll-over protections system as most convertibles require that.

 

[SDNR]

I'd have to disagree. I still think this comparison makes very little sense, especially when one considers the price of each car. But GTA's points really sum up why there's very little overlap between the two. One car's main character is that it's a technical showcase that appeals to people who value technology over theater. The other is resplendent in luxury that, while lacking some of the technical features of S-Cabrio, it more than makes it up with other features and a greater sense of occasion.

I do not think that GTA's points are invalid, as those are things he values. To have a 0.29 Cd for a droptop is pretty darn impressive. But I think the Dawn comes with night vision available and heated steering and seats (don't know about door panel or armrest). Also I am sure the RR has its own radar-based system that can also detect pedestrians and a roll-over protections system as most convertibles require that.

I'm not even so sure the deciding factor for buying the Mercedes is the technology ...some people just prefer Mercedes-Benzes plain and simple. The Rolls has plenty of interesting tech.

Funny thing though, I've seen a couple reviews that say the Mercedes is not such a thrill to drive ....it's so faultless, it lacks excitement. Whereas I have yet to read a single review that doesn't talk about the pleasure of driving the Wraith. The truth is both these cars are large cruisers.

 

[klier]

Funny thing though, I've seen a couple reviews that say the Mercedes is not such a thrill to drive

No kidding, it's a Benz.

 

[LaArtist]

How much of a thrill does a 4 door luxury cab need to be? im sure if you have the AMG and give it full throttle you will nearly shit your pants.. not so nice given white leather seats..

But then again how can one expect a BMW fan to understand, this is not even your domain, go buy spacers for your 318 and make it look phat and M3ish. Thats the core of BMW

 

[klier]

But then again how can one expect a BMW fan to understand, this is not even your domain, go buy spacers for your 318 and make it look phat and M3ish. Thats the core of BMW

Haha, pathetic little man.

 

[LaArtist]

^ haha did it hurt?
Listening to BMW fan about matters of this caliber is like getting a deaf person to review an orchestra.

 

[GTA45E]

Hey GTA did you pm Giannis the following ? Thanks Giannis, I believe you might be right. I have not loaded the latest java scripts. I`ll do so

That was eons ago buddy.
I was having problems with one of the worst operating systems
Windows ever came up with, XP. It crashed numerous times. That is long long gone now.
My latest laptop is an HP Envy, 12gb RAM, One Terabyte hard drive, 4-built in speakers and a sub.
17inch anti-reflective 1080p screen. Windows 8.1, Top of the line i7 processor with 2.4ghz, 3.2 Turbo Boost, backlit keyboard with finger print scanner. If you are interested in how I update, I have it programmed to upload on its own, automatically.

Your post is absolute illigical nonsence and contributes nothing to the quality of this thread.

Because it is. Lacking some technical equipment doesn't mean anything. Your 10 point list is silly and your no 1 is most silly.

Your definsive attacks is ancient news now. You should pick up on some new more informative, diplomatic talents instead of trolling threads most of the time, stating that your opinion is more valid than someone elses. You cannot dissect your post and give at least a couple reasons why you believe what you believe about the Rolls vs. the Benz

 

[sanpt7777]

I think those were valid points, especially number 1.

I'd believe that a car with low drag is a car that was also well engineered to make it silent at speed

 

[klier]

Your definsive attacks is ancient news now. You should pick up on some new more informative, diplomatic talents instead of trolling threads most of the time

I should do nothing.
And when you say I have to back up my posts, I will. But not on matters as obvious as this.
Oh and GTA, if you can't handle a little Internal Combustion heat, just stay away.

I think those were valid points, especially number 1.

And I don't. It's a completely and utterly random list. I can also make a 10 point list on matters the MB doesn't feature, and the Rolls does.
I mean, have you guys even checked out the way the roof is made on the Dawn? That alone makes the Cd rating almost useless. Even if it is higher on the Rolls (I don't doubt that btw), it will still be more quiet inside because of the roof.

 

[ThroughandThrough]

I mean, have you guys even checked out the way the roof is made on the Dawn? That alone makes the Cd rating almost useless. Even if it is higher on the Rolls (I don't doubt that btw), it will still be more quiet inside because of the roof.

Please post the article explaining how the roof is engineered.

I would love to read it.

 

[klier]

Please post the article explaining how the roof is engineered.

I would love to read it.

Look at this vid, from around 11:50 min in they start talking a bit about the roof and why it is the quietest droptop in the world, according to the chief engineer Philip Koehn:

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The roof appears to be the engineering highlight of the car. And that means quite a bit for Rolls. A Rolls Royce highlight is a true highlight.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

I find it perplexing how Rolls Royce appeals so strongly to BMW fans, given that it is the quite at odds with what BMW used to stand for and the reasons so many of them claim to be BMW fans...

Conversely MB fans should probably have a little more appreciation for some of Roll's more recent efforts and achievements, as they would likely identify more with the brands values.

Fanboyisim methinks. And I'm guilty of it too.

 

[Merc1]

I find it perplexing how Rolls Royce appeals so strongly to BMW fans, given that it is the quite at odds of what BMW used to stand for and the reasons so many of them claim to be BMW fans...

Conversely MB fans should probably have a little more appreciation for some of Roll's more recent efforts and achievements, as they would likely identify more with the brands values.

Fanboyisim methinks. And I'm guilty of it too.

It is only because BMW owns Rolls, otherwise BMW diehards wouldn't give a rats arse about a pure luxury car like a Rolls-Royce.

M

 

[ThroughandThrough]

Look at this vid, from around 11:50 min in they start talking a bit about the roof and why it is the quietest droptop in the world, according to the chief engineer Philip Koehn:

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The roof appears to be the engineering highlight of the car. And that means quite a bit for Rolls. A Rolls Royce highlight is a true highlight.

Well that was anticlimactic.

I learned next to nothing about the roof.

Sure it can be raised or lowered at a certain speed, has an elegant profile, and is quite, but the same can be said for other luxury dropheads.

I didn't get a sense of above and beyond engineering.

That said, I'm sure it is the most quiet drophead on the road, but again, I wouldn't necessarily consider that a great feat.

 

[GTA45E]

I should do nothing.
And when you say I have to back up my posts, I will. But not on matters as obvious as this.
Oh and GTA, if you can't handle a little Internal Combustion heat, just stay away.

Than please do. All I am reading from you is a bunch of conceited, arrogant, bullheaded bs, and please don`t tell me to stay away from Internal Combustion heat because you obviously do not know what that heat is. Definsive personal attacks of your favorite brand is silly childish behavior and is not heat.

The heat of the disscussion is what makes one car stand out from the other in terms of features and
technology, vs. the finest of handcrafted materials in what one values in personal taste. You still have not come up with a single valuable point on this subject. All you want to point out is that one is better than the other. If that is your opinion than so be it. All I am saying here is come up with some points as to why you believe that. Don`t bash others because their opinion is different than yours. (Your personal opinion is not the key to the universe.)


I am done venting and trying to post notes on your forehead. If you don`t get it now you never will.
End of discussion.

Funny thing though, I've seen a couple reviews that say the Mercedes is not such a thrill to drive ....it's so faultless, it lacks excitement. Whereas I have yet to read a single review that doesn't talk about the pleasure of driving the Wraith. The truth is both these cars are large cruisers.

If you come across that article please post it.
Motor Trend liked the drive of the S65 Coupe. I don`t think the the S cabriolet is available in the S65 though.

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[LaArtist]

I find it perplexing how Rolls Royce appeals so strongly to BMW fans, given that it is the quite at odds with what BMW used to stand for and the reasons so many of them claim to be BMW fans...

Conversely MB fans should probably have a little more appreciation for some of Roll's more recent efforts and achievements, as they would likely identify more with the brands values.

Fanboyisim methinks. And I'm guilty of it too.

I love RR, they rule. Especially the top line like the drophead and phantom.
Not a fan of the ghost line though, and i hate the one with the backpack, whatever they call it.

Its the same with bentley, i love the Arnage and Mulsannes, not a fan of the continental series

 

[SDNR]

It is only because BMW owns Rolls, otherwise BMW diehards wouldn't give a rats arse about a pure luxury car like a Rolls-Royce.

M

HELLO!

Somebody finally cut through all the BS.

 

[SDNR]

If you come across that article please post it.
Motor Trend liked the drive of the S65 Coupe. I don`t think the the S cabriolet is available in the S65 though.

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Nobody has said it is not outstanding .....but most reviews do make comments about it being more of a isolation chamber on wheels .....not an overly engaging experience to drive. I haven't read or heard anyone comment on it being a fun vehicle. It is a classic large Mercedes Coupé: serious, luxurious, and powerful.

Btw, am I the only one to find some of Rolls-Royce's marketting to be pretentious?

 

[Deleted member 25]

I find it perplexing how Rolls Royce appeals so strongly to BMW fans, given that it is the quite at odds with what BMW used to stand for and the reasons so many of them claim to be BMW fans...

Conversely MB fans should probably have a little more appreciation for some of Roll's more recent efforts and achievements, as they would likely identify more with the brands values.

Fanboyisim methinks. And I'm guilty of it too.

It's pretty simple actually, if you have to switch sides and go for the end of the spectrum, better go for the top, real not plated gold.