EQE (V295) [Renders] 2022 Mercedes-Benz EQE

[Deleted member 1071]

I am definitely more Australian than Swiss ! I moved to Switzerland when I was 22.

Ha, imagine that ! And I always thought that you were "ein waschechter Dütsch-Schwyzer" .

 

[Rolf]

I must say the standard non hyperscreen interior looks good, I like the trim panel on the passenger side its quite distinctive. The only thing that I dont fancy is the piano black center console. The wooden center console used on the hyperscreen version looks so much nicer.

 

[MercFan]

With the release of each new model, it becomes more and more difficult to be a fan of this brand... What were they smoking when they designed the whole EQ lineup?

 

[Mick Briesgau]

Yes thank definitely I actually feel today many journalist just paid off sort of or fanboys not like the old days I am actually in the porecess of shifting back to cape town over then next few moutnhs so I doubt EQS or EQE will be tested I am thinking of the new c class when I move to SA finally....I played with the seat in the S class I found it cool but haven't done it driving mind you once I am seated I hardly move my seat ...

The new C class is a very attractive car. I hope you’ll get one once your back in SA ?

 

[Centurion]

Yes thank definitely I actually feel today many journalist just paid off sort of or fanboys

Some auto journalists don't actually own a car, or at least not a new shiny one.

How come? They have access to loaners from manufacturers. Sometimes even 2-3 at one time.

Do they want to bite the hand that feeds them by criticising a new car by collaborative manufacturer? Nope

 

[Antti]

Some auto journalists don't actually own a car, or at least not a new shiny one.

How come? They have access to loaners from manufacturers. Sometimes even 2-3 at one time.

Do they want to bite the hand that feeds them by criticising a new car by collaborative manufacturer? Nope

I’ve also noticed a trend where selected youtubers get early access to new Mercedes models. They can film their first reviews before the car is launched so that they can click on “publish” on their review videos the second the official launch event is over. If you do a negative review you can bet that you won’t get invited back to another early access event. I was a bit surprised Thomas from autogefuhl dared to criticise the EQE for its “Chinese design not fit for European and North American tastes” as well as the capacitive buttons.

 

[Steven21]

The EQE is not bad, but altogether it is still a very heavy car. I dream of a much lighter car.
I read about Goodenough the coinventor (not coin vendor as the system suggested) of the lithium battery (and Nobel prize winner 2019) that he has received a patent for a new battery - a glass battery. It should be able to hold 3 times the capacity of current batteries. I don’t know if this is realistic or just a hoax. If his name was not involved I would say it is a hoax.
That would mean that a 108 kWh battery would instead of 600 kg weigh only 200 kg and would be 3 times smaller in size. That would enable much leaner cars. That would give me the dream car. But how many years will it take to implement it ? Or will it turn out to be a hoax in the end ?

 

[LaArtist]

The EQE is not bad, but altogether it is still a very heavy car. I dream of a much lighter car.
I read about Goodenough the coinventor (not coin vendor as the system suggested) of the lithium battery (and Nobel prize winner 2019) that he has received a patent for a new battery - a glass battery. It should be able to hold 3 times the capacity of current batteries. I don’t know if this is realistic or just a hoax. If his name was not involved I would say it is a hoax.
That would mean that a 108 kWh battery would instead of 600 kg weigh only 200 kg and would be 3 times smaller in size. That would enable much leaner cars. That would give me the dream car. But how many years will it take to implement it ? Or will it turn out to be a hoax in the end ?

Well the first step
Is solid state batteries. Rumors say the replacement of the aventador will debut the batteries in a hybrid version. I also believe this is why Porsche and VAG is holding off to hybridize the 992 until it’s half life update.

 

[Steven21]

Tesla set the direction several years ago towards automatic driving. Also other “automatic” features are added everywhere like doors opening automatically and cars learning about the preferences of users in order to set up everything according to the “usual” wishes of drivers. And the computer is selecting the route for the optimal sequence of charging stations (because a user is too stupid ?) and selecting for the user the best mix of multimedia contents.
Everybody should be aware, that this means at the same time that users are watched and tested and spied on in every tiny decision and action that they do in a car. Big brother is totally supervising you, relentlessly as computers simply are.
I must confess I don’t want that ! (Maybe schizophrenia ?) And I wonder why silently all users seem to “automatically” accept this development direction. I think I would like to see also a car that is as dumb as an old beetle. There I could maybe also simply have the old pleasure of driving.

We know that sport (movement) is important for your physical health. I think mental health is probably not served very well if a computer takes all interesting tasks away from you.

 

[A.P.]

Mercedes Wagons Face Uncertain Future With EV Transition

Mercedes suggests the wagon might not be around much longer as the company transitions to electric vehicles and focuses on more popular body styles.

www.motor1.com

What is Mercedes future? They can't be serious.

 

[KiwiRob]

Tesla set the direction several years ago towards automatic driving. Also other “automatic” features are added everywhere like doors opening automatically and cars learning about the preferences of users in order to set up everything according to the “usual” wishes of drivers. And the computer is selecting the route for the optimal sequence of charging stations (because a user is too stupid ?) and selecting for the user the best mix of multimedia contents.
Everybody should be aware, that this means at the same time that users are watched and tested and spied on in every tiny decision and action that they do in a car. Big brother is totally supervising you, relentlessly as computers simply are.
I must confess I don’t want that ! (Maybe schizophrenia ?) And I wonder why silently all users seem to “automatically” accept this development direction. I think I would like to see also a car that is as dumb as an old beetle. There I could maybe also simply have the old pleasure of driving.

We know that sport (movement) is important for your physical health. I think mental health is probably not served very well if a computer takes all interesting tasks away from you.

That's already happening every time you turn on your computer or use your mobile phone for anything. Your life is being tracked, tracking you in your car is just an extension of what is already happening everywhere else. Users accept this because we have little choice not to.

 

[fortuner]

That's already happening every time you turn on your computer or use your mobile phone for anything. Your life is being tracked, tracking you in your car is just an extension of what is already happening everywhere else. Users accept this because we have little choice not to.

agree I was told by a guy when buying a Samsung tv that the tv has a chip that hears everything and see everything that happens in your home and is used by Samsung or other organisations.. scary shit well the phones are already doing it right

 

[klier]

My Gosh that interior without the hyperscreen looks so old and retro and heavy. Yuck.

BMW iX interior is far and away in a different era. EQE looks like a normal car interior, not a BEV one.

agree I was told by a guy when buying a Samsung tv that the tv has a chip that hears everything and see everything that happens in your home and is used by Samsung or other organisations.. scary shit well the phones are already doing it right

Right. I always wonder why I get ads of something I talked about. Scary stuff.

 

[Sonder]

For my opinion the “normal” screen makes the cockpit looking more majestic.
As i said it once, it also kind reminds me of the C219 (which for my opinion was the most perfect designed Mercedes).

 

[fan_of_642]

From the point of design, usability AND quality -poor to mention it- the all-time-best mercedes is obviously the X218...

 

[leylandi]

jesmb has learned more details about the EQE: including the AMG variant of the EQE gets 680 hp
Mercedes presented the EQE to the global public at the IAA 2021. Production is scheduled to start in Bremen in 2021. However, the first vehicles will only be delivered to customers shortly before mid-2022.

Mercedes EQE with Farasis cells
The Mercedes EQE has a 90.5 kWh battery. In contrast to the EQS, due to the 9 cm shorter wheelbase, it does not consist of 12 modules (107.8 kWh), but of 10 modules.

A smaller battery with 8 modules for the EQE (72 kWh) is not planned for the near future. After all, the EQE is an upper mid-range sedan.

In contrast to EQS (battery cells from CATL), Mercedes obtains the battery cells for the EQE from the battery cell manufacturer Farasis. Since the Farasis plant is not being built in Bitterfeld-Wolfen (Saxony-Anhalt), the cells are imported from China.

The layout of how many cells are interconnected to form modules is identical between the larger EQS battery (107.8 kWh) and the 90.5 kWh battery in the EQE. Only 10 modules are used in the EQE. Therefore the voltage (396 V nominal voltage in the EQS with 12 modules with 10 identical modules 329 V) is lower.

Due to this fact, the maximum peak charging power is reduced from 210 kW to 170 kW compared to the battery with 12 modules (EQS). (500 A * 329 V = 164 KW, but with increasing SoC the voltage in the cell is slightly higher than the nominal voltage).

In the end, the EQE 350 reloads 250 km in 15 minutes and is around 50 km behind the EQS 450+ with 300 km in 15 minutes.

Very high average charging power

The EQE can recharge a total of 35.55 kWH in 15 minutes (39.3% of the battery). That means an average charging speed of 142 KW. That is a very good value. In contrast to the EQA and EQS, many other electric cars from other manufacturers achieve a very high peak value but only keep this very short. If you then only want to recharge from 40% to 60% (because the distances between the fast charging parks do not allow this otherwise), you will not be able to enjoy the high charging power in such cases. Here, the Mercedes approach prefers a not quite as high peak, but is very welcome with a significantly higher charging power on average.

EQE 350 is the basic variant

For the EQE, the EQE 350 with 292 PS and 530 NM (weight 2,355 kg) represents the basic engine. There should not be any variant with less power and / or lower battery capacity. There will only be a weaker EQE for a market outside the EU (presumably China). Since all EQE models have the same battery, and the EQE 350 compared to the other variants (e.g. 4matic), the EQE 350 should not have the + in its name, although it is very good at 660 km (according to WLTP). Its range is greater than that of the BMW i4 or Tesla Model 3, for example.

Later, Mercedes will announce with which other version the market launch of the EQE will take place. An AMG variant with 680 PS has also already been confirmed.

 

[leylandi]

 

[fortuner]

Would have been nice of the centre console could have had option of same material as dash..

 

[Sunny]

I can't still get over how horribly put together this part looks -

Like a broken cup -

Imagine if this was Tesla or a Lucid or some Chinese company that made something so badly put together - everyone here will be ridiculing it no end. Cause it is Mercedes, we come up with arguments like "if we paint it all black and squint at 19 degrees in a dark room, it will look passable on the 3rd night after 4 shots".

For the EQE, the EQE 350 with 292 PS and 530 NM (weight 2,355 kg)

So not much lighter than EQS 450+ which weighs 2480kg but with a 120 kwh battery. And 400 lbs more than a Taycan 4s or a Model S, but with way less power. But let us all pretend it is okay.

 

[Sonder]

From the point of design, usability AND quality -poor to mention it- the all-time-best mercedes is obviously the X218...

yes, if we are talking shooting brake or kombi, definitely. A true timeless beauty.

but if we are talking 4-door coupe or in general Mercedes, the C219 is the pure perfection for me