EQS [Renders] 2020 Mercedes-Benz EQS


The Mercedes-Benz EQS (V297) is a battery electric full-size luxury liftback car produced by Mercedes-Benz Group and part of the Mercedes-Benz EQ family. It was released in September 2021 in Germany and the fourth quarter of 2021 in the United States.
Managed to make it a little more brighter...

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The S class shape is inefficient for an electric vehicle, what don’t you get about that ? I’m not even defending this vehicle’s design per se, just being rational about it. Buyers don’t want shit range.

What are your opinions regarding the exterior design of the Tesla S ? It's undoubtedly an efficient, spacious BEV that is quite eye-pleasing as well. Yes, it presents more conventional "sedoupe" proportions and fits the description of what many would interpret as being a car with a "traditional architecture". In that sense, not sooo unlike the W/V223. Depending upon configuration, the W/V223 boasts a drag coefficient of cW 0,22, which is highly impressive. Personally, I find the concept of a more conventional S-Class underpinned with a dedicated battery skateboard quite viable.

We must see how the EQS does on the marketplace. BMW has chosen to go a more conventional route with its' upcoming i7. VAG is being cryptic as of late regarding the details of the "Landjet" cars. My take is: Should the EQS fail in terms of unit sales, it will be replaced by an automobile that will be far more recognizable as a bonafide S-Class.
 
What are your opinions regarding the exterior design of the Tesla S ? It's undoubtedly an efficient, spacious BEV that is quite eye-pleasing as well. Yes, it presents more conventional "sedoupe" proportions and fits the description of what many would interpret as being a car with a "traditional architecture". In that sense, not sooo unlike the W/V223. Depending upon configuration, the W/V223 boasts a drag coefficient of cW 0,22, which is highly impressive. Personally, I find the concept of a more conventional S-Class underpinned with a dedicated battery skateboard quite viable.

We must see how the EQS does on the marketplace. BMW has chosen to go a more conventional route with its' upcoming i7. VAG is being cryptic as of late regarding the details of the "Landjet" cars. My take is: Should the EQS fail in terms of unit sales, it will be replaced by an automobile that will be far more recognizable as a bonafide S-Class.
Indeed, let's see how the market reacts. I've difficulties however, imagining the average S class buyer replacing his car with an EQS. I mean. there's a beautiful, sleek, fine 4 door saloon on the one hand and a Blob/Pod/Prius-like BEV, which imo looks old and outdated already, on the other.
 
I mean. there's a beautiful, sleek, fine 4 door saloon on the one hand and a Blob/Pod/Prius-like BEV, which imo looks old and outdated already, on the other.

You might think the EQS looks outdated, but I see the W223 as thoroughly outdated except it's exterior proportions and arguably the interior... EQS look fugly, but at least it's progressive, rather than almost regressive like the W223.
 
You might think the EQS looks outdated, but I see the W223 as thoroughly outdated except it's exterior proportions and arguably the interior... EQS look fugly, but at least it's progressive, rather than almost regressive like the W223.
Frankly, I can't see what's progressive about EQS. A century old principle of electrified tranport, that in fact was already phased out by technical evolution, perhaps?
W223 is by far out dated in a technical perspective. In political perspective, so it seems, yes.
 
Frankly, I can't see what's progressive about EQS. A century old principle of electrified tranport, that in fact was already phased out by technical evolution, perhaps?
W223 is by far out dated in a technical perspective. In political perspective, so it seems, yes.

Oh please.....

Your opinion regarding BEV tech doesn't reflect the real world.
 
You might think the EQS looks outdated, but I see the W223 as thoroughly outdated except it's exterior proportions and arguably the interior... EQS look fugly, but at least it's progressive, rather than almost regressive like the W223.

"Progressive" can be a pliable term. And while the EQS strays from what is perceived to be "the standard architectural paradigm", spititual roots can be found in several more unorthodox automobiles of the past. The previously mentioned Citröen C6, the 1990 GM APVs', the 1956 FIAT 600 Multipla, the 1950 Nash Airfyte sedans are but a few examples.

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And excuse my beating that Audi drum once again (sometimes, I really just can't help myself ;).), but the Aicon concept would be a more suitable example of what may be perceived as "progressive". Then again, it could be argued that it too has some "spiritual predecessors" of its' own (some of those Giugiaro "wedge cars" of the late 1960s'/early 1970s' for example). And whether the Aicon (or many of its architectural elements) will actually come to fruition as a production car is another topic altogether.
 
I think we've covered that Audi and Porsche had a completely different design brief. This design wasn't the result of being lost- they've been quite dedicated in creating a luxury vehicle with shape. This concept from 2016 wasn't for nothing:

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It's not like the Taycan and e-Tron are some unheard of form for an EV. The Model S set the tone for that long ago. MB's future MMA platform vehicles will be more conventional in shape.

I actually prefer this 2016 concept: it’s an egg but at least it’s an honest egg.
 
Indeed, let's see how the market reacts. I've difficulties however, imagining the average S class buyer replacing his car with an EQS. I mean. there's a beautiful, sleek, fine 4 door saloon on the one hand and a Blob/Pod/Prius-like BEV, which imo looks old and outdated already, on the other.
It seems like something I might buy because I am a Mercedes-Benz customer, and I want something with the longest range for highway trips ?

At the moment though, it's a difficult pill to swallow.
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It seems like something I might buy because I am a Mercedes-Benz customer, and I want something with the longest range for highway trips ?

At the moment though, it's a difficult pill to swallow.
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I know, Luke, it's a hard time to be a Mercedes-Benz customer ;)
If I was forced into buying a BEV at this very moment, I wouldn't buy an EQS, though being a longtime and faithful MB buyer. I'd take a Tesla S with the largest possible battery for long distance traveling.
 
I know, Luke, it's a hard time to be a Mercedes-Benz customer ;)
If I was forced into buying a BEV at this very moment, I wouldn't buy an EQS, though being a longtime and faithful MB buyer. I'd take a Tesla S with the largest possible battery for long distance traveling.

And sacrifice all the other elements that the MB would likely satisfy you moreso then the the Tesla such as ride, refinement, quality etc.? These are some of the reasons you have been a repeat S-Class buyer no?

You have such an interesting situation Mick. MB should have had you in their customer clinics.
 
And sacrifice all the other elements that the MB would likely satisfy you moreso then the the Tesla such as ride, refinement, quality etc.? These are some of the reasons you have been a repeat S-Class buyer no?

You have such an interesting situation Mick. MB should have had you in their customer clinics.

M-B simply must have conducted EQS clinics in which loyal S-Class customers had the opportunity to provide feedback. Or...?
 
And sacrifice all the other elements that the MB would likely satisfy you moreso then the the Tesla such as ride, refinement, quality etc.? These are some of the reasons you have been a repeat S-Class buyer no?

You have such an interesting situation Mick. MB should have had you in their customer clinics.
Short answer: yes.
 
M-B simply must have conducted EQS clinics in which loyal S-Class customers had the opportunity to provide feedback. Or...?
Hartmut Sinkwitz has said a few interesting things on this matter, in an interview sometime ago. Vide https://www.just-auto.com/interview...s-benz-interior-design-director_id194401.aspx
Especially the paragraph headed I guess there is a balance to be struck between using a touchscreen an physical butons and dials. What is consumer research telling you about what Mercedes customers want?
 

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