EQS [Renders] 2020 Mercedes-Benz EQS


The Mercedes-Benz EQS (V297) is a battery electric full-size luxury liftback car produced by Mercedes-Benz Group and part of the Mercedes-Benz EQ family. It was released in September 2021 in Germany and the fourth quarter of 2021 in the United States.
We can only hope the future of the EQS looks like this.
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I just realized I've never even taken a look at the Lucid Air rear seat. I was expecting more out of them.

It's turning out that the interior may be the EQS' real draw in this market.
 
Really??? Why the f you even bother bringing that lazy ass 5 series CGI to this thread? There's enough monstrosity in this thread anyway... :D :D

Sure thing, chief. Won't do it again.

“There will not be a luxury sedan in the market, nor is there one right now, that compares to the size, the packaging and the space as the EQS. It sits a segment above, including a back seat where you can actually sit comfortably.” Ola Källenius

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Instead, The Mercedes EQE will be competitor to the Model S. You can clearly see that the Lucid Air sacrifices comfort and luxury for efficiency. A lower roofline to improve aero and no sunblinds and other luxury features to improve weight.

Thanks for that.

Never realised how poorly equipped the backseat of these electric cars are in the name of weight savings for efficiency. That 7-series looks very comfortable.

I just realized I've never even taken a look at the Lucid Air rear seat. I was expecting more out of them.

It's turning out that the interior may be the EQS' real draw in this market.


That's because Lucid and Tesla are not luxury car companies. Tesla is more a tech company than an actual car manufacturer.
 
The EQS is the first electric car after the taycan that i'm really looking forward to. But i have two concerns. I really like light bars at the tail but i think they're horrible in the front. And then there's the annoying issue of shiny black plastic in the interior.
 
“There will not be a luxury sedan in the market, nor is there one right now, that compares to the size, the packaging and the space as the EQS. It sits a segment above, including a back seat where you can actually sit comfortably.” Ola Källenius

Model S and Air.jpg
BMW 7-Series.jpg


Instead, The Mercedes EQE will be competitor to the Model S. You can clearly see that the Lucid Air sacrifices comfort and luxury for efficiency. A lower roofline to improve aero and no sunblinds and other luxury features to improve weight.


The person in the lucid Knees are so high for a luxury car this is pathetic IMO..the floor to seating position is very bad I think the EQA video I saw yesterday is even better
 
The S class shape is inefficient for an electric vehicle, what don’t you get about that ? I’m not even defending this vehicle’s design per se, just being rational about it. Buyers don’t want shit range.

If you need to make a car take this shape to be suitable for EV tech, I just would not make it at all.
 
“There will not be a luxury sedan in the market, nor is there one right now, that compares to the size, the packaging and the space as the EQS. It sits a segment above, including a back seat where you can actually sit comfortably.” Ola Källenius

Model S and Air.jpg
BMW 7-Series.jpg


Instead, The Mercedes EQE will be competitor to the Model S. You can clearly see that the Lucid Air sacrifices comfort and luxury for efficiency. A lower roofline to improve aero and no sunblinds and other luxury features to improve weight.
Are there several versions?
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Are there several versions?
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From their website:

" An optional Executive Rear Seating Package (available in 2022) will offer jet-style comfort with up to 45 degrees of recline movement for two rear passengers. "

But the high floor issue will still remain. I must admit the exec rear seats look nice if not particularly extravagant.
 
The EQS is the first electric car after the taycan that i'm really looking forward to. But i have two concerns. I really like light bars at the tail but i think they're horrible in the front. And then there's the annoying issue of shiny black plastic in the interior.
Same, love light bars but they don’t work in the front at all, at least I have yet to see an implementation that I like.
 
Not sure how this egg shape was approved. This looks like crap.

Make a damn S-Class EV. Use the same proportions of the W223, which btw, are best in class. Give it a more futuristic design and be done with it.

MB seems kind of lost here. Seems to me their execs didn’t have a clear vision as to what a BEV should look like apart from thinking it should look very different from an ICE vehicle. Then they were shown this eggshell on wheels and probably thought to themselves, well, it fits the design brief of looking different, I guess it’s good to go. Probably the basic shape was approved before the better looking EVs from Porsche and Audi appeared, so it was too late to change the design fundamentals by then
 
MB seems kind of lost here. Seems to me their execs didn’t have a clear vision as to what a BEV should look like apart from thinking it should look very different from an ICE vehicle. Then they were shown this eggshell on wheels and probably thought to themselves, well, it fits the design brief of looking different, I guess it’s good to go. Probably the basic shape was approved before the better looking EVs from Porsche and Audi appeared, so it was too late to change the design fundamentals by then

I think we've covered that Audi and Porsche had a completely different design brief. This design wasn't the result of being lost- they've been quite dedicated in creating a luxury vehicle with shape. This concept from 2016 wasn't for nothing:

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It's not like the Taycan and e-Tron are some unheard of form for an EV. The Model S set the tone for that long ago. MB's future MMA platform vehicles will be more conventional in shape.
 
But the high floor issue will still remain. I must admit the exec rear seats look nice if not particularly extravagant.

Look at that guy sitting in the Lucid in that pic, and how his knees are about to touch the ceiling. because of the high floor....absolutely ridiculous!
That VIP seat does look good, but the standard bench looks almost comical (so bad!).
 
I think we've covered that Audi and Porsche had a completely different design brief. This design wasn't the result of being lost- they've been quite dedicated in creating a luxury vehicle with shape. This concept from 2016 wasn't for nothing:

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It's not like the Taycan and e-Tron are some unheard of form for an EV. The Model S set the tone for that long ago. MB's future MMA platform vehicles will be more conventional in shape.


This would have been a better pod on wheels, just like that. Instead we have a watered down egg. I'm as big a fan of Mercedes as you, since 1986, but they've lost the plot here. Audi and Porsche are killing them in design with EVs.


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This would have been a better pod on wheels, just like that. Instead we have a watered down egg. I'm as big a fan of Mercedes as you, since 1986, but they've lost the plot here. Audi and Porsche are killing them in design with EVs.


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I do agree, but it seems to me the Mercedes product planners wanted the designers to come up with something that would maximise interior space and not tread of the toes of the S-Class. So this Toyota Prius lookalike is the result. I sometimes feel the Vision EQS concept car was made by the Mercedes designers to say the production EQS "is not our fault!"

I still think the EQS will look better in metal like the AMG GT-four door.
 
I do agree, but it seems to me the Mercedes product planners wanted the designers to come up with something that would maximise interior space and not tread of the toes of the S-Class. So this Toyota Prius lookalike is the result. I sometimes feel the Vision EQS concept car was made by the Mercedes designers to say the production EQS "is not our fault!"

I still think the EQS will look better in metal like the AMG GT-four door.


No way, I doubt that. The AMG GT 4-door when done right it brutal looking, if not pretty. This EQS is just plain ugly. It's a German Civic from a few generations ago. None of these reasons given excuse this EQS, this is Mercedes-Benz. They have a million cars in their past to pull influence from and they come up with this? I see no Benz DNA anywhere. They could have done something stunning here, with throwback proportions.

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