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Do we need nonsense like that in this thread?
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My suggestion: Simply ignore what you consider to be nonsense-and move on. What you personally deem as "nonsense" may attract the interest of others. Hence, your comment couldn't be more superfluous.
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A few automotive media websites are speculating that Porsche will present a sub-Taycan BEV sedan based on the VAG PPE platform. The sister-car of the upcoming Audi A4 eTron, it is reported that the Cajun nomenclature will be revived. Perhaps simply "filler" conjecture during the seasonal dearth of genuine news.
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As always, I can't find the tread "Porsche what's next" so here it goes, please change it if that's the case, but it's related to the i4
This would go below as entry level "Pajun" that of years ago, if this is real, that's all an event
Porsche is building a business case for a seventh model line that could allow it to challenge the Tesla Model 3 and BMW i4 with an electric fastback-style saloon closely related to Audi’s A4 E-tron.
www.autocar.co.uk
Is a clone of the Audi A5 E-Tron coming?
Porsche is said to have a third electric model in the planning stage. According to the British "Autocar", the model should target competitors such as the Tesla Model 3 or the new BMW i4.
Holger Wittich
06/01/2021
According to the report, the four-door electric sedan, which will be launched on the market no later than 2025, could be called the Porsche Cajun, a name that the Zuffenhausen-based company had already registered in 2011. At that time, the model name was teamed up with little Cayenne, who is now known as Macan.
www.auto-motor-und-sport.de
This would go below as entry level "Pajun" that of years ago, if this is real, that's all an event
Porsche is building a business case for a seventh model line that could allow it to challenge the Tesla Model 3 and BMW i4 with an electric fastback-style saloon closely related to Audi’s A4 E-tron.
Porsche to expand line-up with new BMW i4-rivalling saloon | Autocar
New fastback-style saloon will use Audi A4 e-tron platform with target price of £50,000
Is a clone of the Audi A5 E-Tron coming?
Porsche is said to have a third electric model in the planning stage. According to the British "Autocar", the model should target competitors such as the Tesla Model 3 or the new BMW i4.
Holger Wittich
06/01/2021
According to the report, the four-door electric sedan, which will be launched on the market no later than 2025, could be called the Porsche Cajun, a name that the Zuffenhausen-based company had already registered in 2011. At that time, the model name was teamed up with little Cayenne, who is now known as Macan.
Porsche Cajun auf PPE: Kommt ein Audi A5 E-Tron-Klon?
Porsche soll ein drittes Elektro-Modell in der Planung haben. Nach Angaben der britischen "Autocar" soll das Modell Wettbewerber wie das Tesla Model 3 oder den neuen BMW i4 ins Visier nehmen.
www.auto-motor-und-sport.de
I’d definitely be interested in something like this.As always, I can't find the tread "Porsche what's next" so here it goes, please change it if that's the case, but it's related to the i4
This would go below as entry level "Pajun" that of years ago, if this is real, that's all an event
Porsche is building a business case for a seventh model line that could allow it to challenge the Tesla Model 3 and BMW i4 with an electric fastback-style saloon closely related to Audi’s A4 E-tron.
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Porsche to expand line-up with new BMW i4-rivalling saloon | Autocar
New fastback-style saloon will use Audi A4 e-tron platform with target price of £50,000
Is a clone of the Audi A5 E-Tron coming?
Porsche is said to have a third electric model in the planning stage. According to the British "Autocar", the model should target competitors such as the Tesla Model 3 or the new BMW i4.
Holger Wittich
06/01/2021
According to the report, the four-door electric sedan, which will be launched on the market no later than 2025, could be called the Porsche Cajun, a name that the Zuffenhausen-based company had already registered in 2011. At that time, the model name was teamed up with little Cayenne, who is now known as Macan.
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Porsche Cajun auf PPE: Kommt ein Audi A5 E-Tron-Klon?
Porsche soll ein drittes Elektro-Modell in der Planung haben. Nach Angaben der britischen "Autocar" soll das Modell Wettbewerber wie das Tesla Model 3 oder den neuen BMW i4 ins Visier nehmen.
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I suspect that many would share your interest.
A sedan positioned underneath the large(er) Taycan (with its nearly 4970mm length and nearly 1970mm width, a genuinely large automobile) could indeed make commercial sense. A car approximately 4700mm in length, 1900mm in width with starting prices just under 70K Euros would surely find its' customers. A Sport/Cross Turismo version would be an absolute must.
Couldn’t agree more.
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Since they are doing a Macan E, a sedan/wagon based on the same platform (PPE?) is a no brainer.
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As early sales assessments indicate a fruitful coexistence between the Taycan and the Audi eTron GT, there should be no obstacles for VAG in offering Porsche/Audi sibling, PPE-underpinned executive segment sedans/estates (A4 eTron+Avant/Porsche "Cajun"+Sport Turismo).
Porsche establishes new high-performance EV battery facility
New venture with German firm Customcells will produce batteries for motorsport and top-rung road cars
Porsche has established a joint venture with German firm Customcells, which will see the two firms co-develop high-performance battery packs for future Porsche models.
Porsche has an 83.75% stake in the new venture, called Cellforce, having invested a "middle double-digit amount". Some €60 million (£51.5m) of funding for the project will come from the German government and the state of Baden-Württemberg.
The new facility, called the Weissach Development Centre, will be in Customcells' home town of Tübingen. It will initially employ 13 engineers, rising to 80 by 2025.
The batteries produced at the site will use silicon anodes that allow for increased power density over conventional, mass-produced items. They will also gain more charge through regenerative braking, withstand high temperatures and be capable of faster charging - all factors, Porsche said, that make them well suited to motorsport usage.
Production will be on a limited basis, with a targeted annual capacity of 100MWh - which, Porsche said, is enough to supply 1000 EVs. It will serve primarily motorsport applications, as well as "high-performance versions of existing cars", according to R&D boss Michael Steiner. Porsche has yet to detail what form these production cars will take.
Steiner told Autocar that mainstream production Porsche models are not yet in line to use the high-performance batteries and clarified that the new facility is a separate venture to the Volkswagen Group's six planned European gigafactory facilities.
"The first task is to get a significant advantage in volumetric energy density, as well as high-temperature sustainability," he said, later adding that "if we see a potential to come down with cost of cells, there might be a chance for higher volume, but this is not the task I gave the team."
Steiner also hinted that other performance brands in the VW Group - Bentley, Bugatti and Lamborghini - could also benefit from the technology later on. "Our plan is for Porsche to be the first customer, but definitely, if this technology is attractive as a high-performance solution, it will be also open for other brands in the Volkswagen Group," he said.
Porsche also holds a significant financial stake in Croatian hypercar manufacturer Rimac, which currently produces its own EV drivetrain technology, and Steiner suggested that company, too, could one day use the new battery technology.
"We are happy to have a stake in Rimac, and they have a lot of know-how and knowledge in electric super-sports cars and batteries. We also have projects that we run together, and if such cell technology will be feasible, why not also have such technology in any other brand in the VW Group or Rimac?"
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/...shes-new-high-performance-ev-battery-facility
New venture with German firm Customcells will produce batteries for motorsport and top-rung road cars
Porsche has established a joint venture with German firm Customcells, which will see the two firms co-develop high-performance battery packs for future Porsche models.
Porsche has an 83.75% stake in the new venture, called Cellforce, having invested a "middle double-digit amount". Some €60 million (£51.5m) of funding for the project will come from the German government and the state of Baden-Württemberg.
The new facility, called the Weissach Development Centre, will be in Customcells' home town of Tübingen. It will initially employ 13 engineers, rising to 80 by 2025.
The batteries produced at the site will use silicon anodes that allow for increased power density over conventional, mass-produced items. They will also gain more charge through regenerative braking, withstand high temperatures and be capable of faster charging - all factors, Porsche said, that make them well suited to motorsport usage.
Production will be on a limited basis, with a targeted annual capacity of 100MWh - which, Porsche said, is enough to supply 1000 EVs. It will serve primarily motorsport applications, as well as "high-performance versions of existing cars", according to R&D boss Michael Steiner. Porsche has yet to detail what form these production cars will take.
Steiner told Autocar that mainstream production Porsche models are not yet in line to use the high-performance batteries and clarified that the new facility is a separate venture to the Volkswagen Group's six planned European gigafactory facilities.
"The first task is to get a significant advantage in volumetric energy density, as well as high-temperature sustainability," he said, later adding that "if we see a potential to come down with cost of cells, there might be a chance for higher volume, but this is not the task I gave the team."
Steiner also hinted that other performance brands in the VW Group - Bentley, Bugatti and Lamborghini - could also benefit from the technology later on. "Our plan is for Porsche to be the first customer, but definitely, if this technology is attractive as a high-performance solution, it will be also open for other brands in the Volkswagen Group," he said.
Porsche also holds a significant financial stake in Croatian hypercar manufacturer Rimac, which currently produces its own EV drivetrain technology, and Steiner suggested that company, too, could one day use the new battery technology.
"We are happy to have a stake in Rimac, and they have a lot of know-how and knowledge in electric super-sports cars and batteries. We also have projects that we run together, and if such cell technology will be feasible, why not also have such technology in any other brand in the VW Group or Rimac?"
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/...shes-new-high-performance-ev-battery-facility
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Quick question - does anyone know when the 2022 Macan [facelift] will be unveiled? Prototype drives of near-production vehicles took place a few weeks ago and word on the street is that order books open this month, but keen to know if anyone has any knowledge or rumors that point to when the big day is.
This will be the ICE Macan that will soldier on for a few years alongside the upcoming e-Macan, so this'll be our last taste of combustion-flavored little Porsche SUV!
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This will be the ICE Macan that will soldier on for a few years alongside the upcoming e-Macan, so this'll be our last taste of combustion-flavored little Porsche SUV!
khabah
Porsche 911 hybrid spied at the Nurburgring with only two seats
There's a good reason why it lacks rear seats.
It might come somewhat as a surprise, but Porsche originally unveiled a hybrid 911 back in March 2010 at the Geneva Motor Show. That wasn't a road car as it took the shape of a 911 GT3 R Hybrid destined for endurance racing. It boasted a Williams-developed kinetic energy recovery system (KERS) and a pair of electric motors working with a flat-six 4.0-litre engine.
An updated model dubbed 911 GT3 R Hybrid 2.0 followed a year later with more power coming from the dual e-motors as well as a weight loss to make the electrified race car more competitive in the Nürburgring 24H. In the years that passed, multiple reports speculated about Porsche's plans to introduce road-going 911 with a hybrid powertrain, but it never happened. Fast forward to the second half of 2021, it would appear the electrified machine from Zuffenhausen is finally inching closer.
Even though it looks like a fairly ordinary Turbo-based prototype, the yellow sticker in the top-left corner of the rear windscreen denotes the test vehicle had a hybrid setup. Spotted at the Green Hell, the inconspicuous work-in-progress vehicle had the side and rear windows fully blacked out. Our spies are telling us Porsche was trying to hide the batteries mounted where you'd normally find the 911's barely usable rear seats.
Believed to be called 911 Turbo E-Hybrid, the new flavour of the iconic German sports car will prioritise performance over efficiency per a statement made by Porsche CEO Oliver Blume. He went on to say it would likely adopt a 400-volt system, which our spies – citing undisclosed sources – claim the prototype caught at the Green Hell had.
Blume went on to mention a hybrid 911 would "have a very high power [output] with very big performance and driving ability." Porsche has gone on record to say that while an electrified derivative is a definite maybe, possibly with the current generation's facelift (992.2), a pure EV won't be launched this decade.
In a previous interview, the very same Blume mentioned a hybrid variant would be "the highest-performance 911 of all." That tells us it would serve as the range-topping model, positioned above the traditional flagships like the speedy Turbo S and the track-focused GT2 RS. Porsche's CEO also said it would be a regular hybrid, meaning owners wouldn't have to plug it in.
Source: https://uk.motor1.com/news/522432/porsche-911-hybrid-spy-photos
There's a good reason why it lacks rear seats.
It might come somewhat as a surprise, but Porsche originally unveiled a hybrid 911 back in March 2010 at the Geneva Motor Show. That wasn't a road car as it took the shape of a 911 GT3 R Hybrid destined for endurance racing. It boasted a Williams-developed kinetic energy recovery system (KERS) and a pair of electric motors working with a flat-six 4.0-litre engine.
An updated model dubbed 911 GT3 R Hybrid 2.0 followed a year later with more power coming from the dual e-motors as well as a weight loss to make the electrified race car more competitive in the Nürburgring 24H. In the years that passed, multiple reports speculated about Porsche's plans to introduce road-going 911 with a hybrid powertrain, but it never happened. Fast forward to the second half of 2021, it would appear the electrified machine from Zuffenhausen is finally inching closer.
Even though it looks like a fairly ordinary Turbo-based prototype, the yellow sticker in the top-left corner of the rear windscreen denotes the test vehicle had a hybrid setup. Spotted at the Green Hell, the inconspicuous work-in-progress vehicle had the side and rear windows fully blacked out. Our spies are telling us Porsche was trying to hide the batteries mounted where you'd normally find the 911's barely usable rear seats.
Believed to be called 911 Turbo E-Hybrid, the new flavour of the iconic German sports car will prioritise performance over efficiency per a statement made by Porsche CEO Oliver Blume. He went on to say it would likely adopt a 400-volt system, which our spies – citing undisclosed sources – claim the prototype caught at the Green Hell had.
Blume went on to mention a hybrid 911 would "have a very high power [output] with very big performance and driving ability." Porsche has gone on record to say that while an electrified derivative is a definite maybe, possibly with the current generation's facelift (992.2), a pure EV won't be launched this decade.
In a previous interview, the very same Blume mentioned a hybrid variant would be "the highest-performance 911 of all." That tells us it would serve as the range-topping model, positioned above the traditional flagships like the speedy Turbo S and the track-focused GT2 RS. Porsche's CEO also said it would be a regular hybrid, meaning owners wouldn't have to plug it in.
Source: https://uk.motor1.com/news/522432/porsche-911-hybrid-spy-photos
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It's about time that Porsche AG should start releasing tidbits of information regarding their own "Landjet category" automobile.
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I guess you've seen everything by now but just in case you missed it.
https://germancarforum.com/threads/2022-porsche-macan-2nd-facelift.64104/
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Now this is very interesting:
www.motor1.com
Porsche Teases Electric Concept For IAA Munich, But What Is It?
Porsche has released a teaser image depicting a red concept car, possibly an electric 718, it will unveil in September at the 2021 IAA in Munich.
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Electric Cayman to test the waters a few years before launching an electric 911?Now this is very interesting:
Porsche Teases Electric Concept For IAA Munich, But What Is It?
Porsche has released a teaser image depicting a red concept car, possibly an electric 718, it will unveil in September at the 2021 IAA in Munich.
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Innuendo appears to indicate that. However, it is difficult to know for sure. Could it be an electric Panamera replacement (Porsches' Landjet entry) ? Or something totally diffferent altogether ?
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This could be the Porsche version of the concepts of VW and Audi (New A8) that are to be presented?
Or the Taycan version - 3 series / 5 series size speculated above in this thread?
www.autoexpress.co.uk
Or the Taycan version - 3 series / 5 series size speculated above in this thread?
New Porsche Mission R concept hints at future electric Cayman | Auto Express
Designed to support customer racing, the Mission R points towards a pure-electric Porsche Cayman for 2024
www.autoexpress.co.uk
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