Comparison tests Porsche 918 vs McLaren P1 vs LaFerrari

[WBarnes]

93 Octane = 97/98 RON
91 Octane = 95 RON (not what anyone in Europe or much of the US would run their hypercar on, especially not in high temperatures).

Octane = (MON+RON)/2

 

[kingjr9000]

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[Rolf]

The 918 has proven most than all the others that even though its least powerful it is the most deadly around most tracks.

 

[hovabongZA]

The 918 has proven most than all the others that even though its least powerful it is the most deadly around most tracks.

At that power level AWD puts the power down more effectively than the others. It makes its time out of the corners with brutal acceleration.

 

[Mafalda]

At that power level AWD puts the power down more effectively than the others. It makes its time out of the corners with brutal acceleration.

this is the point: AWD.
LaFe seems a very good chassis, but is RWD and with less extreme tyres

 

[Lemantech]

this is the point: AWD.
LaFe seems a very good chassis, but is RWD and with less extreme tyres

They used the same tyres on all three cars.

 

[Mafalda]

They used the same tyres on all three cars.

....Lafe on PSC2 or 918 on PZC??
I think they were on the usual tyres: lafe and P1 on PZC and 918 on MPSC2

 

[WBarnes]

Yeah, the LaFerrari lap is in reality, tyre for tyre, the fastest lap in that test.

 

[Mafalda]

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FastestLaps wrote
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Yes it was. And they were standing start laptimes (as depicted in the video and judging by the first end-of-straight speed trap), so that gave 918 extra bonus.
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[WBarnes]

Also on FastestLaps.

"Also, you can see at 1:00.00 mark in the video how Jérôme d'Ambrosio is running wide with the P1, obviously not the easiest to drive out of the three."

"1:05.53 - mistake. 1:06.14 - another loss of control. 1:06.28 - nice drift, but not the fastest way around a corner."

By the way, you get a 30 day trial for free on Amazon Prime, then you can cancel, so you can watch this for free and you'll see why the P1 was slower this time around.

 

[WBarnes]

Do we know which Portimao layout it was? Normal or 3s shorter one? I reviewed the video but there was no way of telling.

Aha, cones in distance at 1:02.12 - shorter lap, so add 3s.

 

[Switar]

It's easy to know, where is the video?

 

[WBarnes]

It's easy to know, where is the video?

See my link 2 above. You have to provide card details, but it's a 30 day free trial and you can cancel.

Torre VIP was the shorter route.

So this really equates to:

918 - 1:57.2
LaFerrari - 1:57.4
P1 - 1:58.5

With standing start, on this track:

http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/algarve-international-circuit-short

1. McLaren 675LT Peter Söderberg 1:54.70 675
2. Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991) unknown 1:56.76

So calculating for standing start. Roughly 400m pre-brake give speed before first corner.

For standing start ~ 50m/s (112.5mph) average for that 400m.

For rolling ~ 70m/s (157.5mph) average for that 400m.

400/50 = 8s

400/70 = 5.71s

So ~2.3s in the difference

918 - 1:53.9
LaFerrari - 1:54.1
P1 - 1:55.2

So his P1 lap was effectively worse than that done by a customer in a 675LT.

 

[Switar]

I try to explain this way. Look at this photogram (0:53 seconds 675 video). The car turns in this point, but it could have turned farther. You can see there another u turn. In your map above is the torre vip tourn.
Can you tell me, please, if you have undestood? My english is bad

 

[WBarnes]

I try to explain this way. Look at this photogram (0:53 seconds 675 video). The car turns in this point, but it could have turned farther. You can see there another u turn. In your map above is the torre vip tourn.
Can you tell me, please, if you have undestood? My english is bad

Precisely, he cuts the corner at 0.53 in this video.

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Now at 1:02.12 in below video, you can see cones across the longer route, so Grand Tour test was also shorter route.

 

[Switar]

Ok, so they use the bike configuration, the shorter track. In this configuration a 1000 cc sportbike lap in about 1.51. I think one of these supercars with trofeo r could have lapped in 1.48 - 1.49

 

[WBarnes]

Ok, so they use the bike configuration, the shorter track. In this configuration a 1000 cc sportbike lap in about 1.51. I think one of these supercars with trofeo r could have lapped in 1.48 - 1.49

They used a standing start though, which cost 2s or more.

Well based on the only timer available, all cars got round in under a minute, which is really, really fast.

 

[Switar]

Yes, i was considering 1.51,7 by Chris Harris lap time.
The longer configuration.
So if you cut 2.5 - 3 seconds, 1.48 - 1.49 is possible.

 

[WBarnes]

Yes, i was considering 1.51,7 by Chris Harris lap time.
The longer configuration.
So if you cut 2.5 - 3 seconds, 1.48 - 1.49 is possible.

But with a standing start to the lap, that would probably as 2s or so back on, so probably 1:51ish.