Origins of the "Sedoupe". It didn't begin with the C219 CLS.

[J.E]

Agreed. The first CLS is the very first sedan-coupe.

In my opinion, this whole sedan coupe is an utter fad. Kill them off. All.

Even the 8-series Gran Coupé?

 

[DjordjeC63]

 

[GTA45E]

^Some of the world's first large, cab-foward design sedans. Nothing coupe like about them.

 

[Levi68]

In my opinion, this whole sedan coupe is an utter fad. Kill them off. All.

What about the CUV coupe?

 

[DjordjeC63]

^Some of the world's first large, cab-foward design sedans. Nothing coupe like about them.

 

[KiwiRob]

I have to go with the Rover P5. It came as the standard sedan

and the sexy Coupe

 

[KiwiRob]

The P5 was the UK Prime Ministers and Govt Ministers vehicle of choice until the mid 1980's long long after they had ended production in 1973.

 

[klier]

Even the 8-series Gran Coupé?

Yes. And the MG GT sedan. Both are just a 5er and E class in drag.

What about the CUV coupe?

That one first!

I think people need to understand the meaning of the word coupe, and then apply it to the modern day interpretation. Bottom line is the ratio of the green house to the door(body) being low.

I think the two-door-sedan part is much more important than any ratio.. Quite simply, if i doesn't have two doors only, it per definition can't be called a coupe.
Maybe I am getting old.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

Ah, yes...the 2 door sedans. Where have they gone ?:

 

[klier]

Replaced by f’ing SUVs

 

[Deleted member 1071]

...and speaking of traditional 2 door sedans...:

I really liked these back in the day. Amazingly light-footed (for an Opel of the era) and fun to drive. The 1.9 SRs' were really cool. So difficult to find nowadays, but if you're persistent and lucky, you can discover pretty good ones (condition 2) going for 8000/8500 Euros. Not bad for a so-called "young quasi classic".

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Ah, yes...the 2 door sedans. Where have they gone ?:

Lets not forget the two door wagons (which I find the most obsolete body version ever).

 

[KiwiRob]

...and speaking of traditional 2 door sedans...:

I really liked these back in the day. Amazingly light-footed (for an Opel of the era) and fun to drive. The 1.9 SRs' were really cool. So difficult to find nowadays, but if you're persistent and lucky, you can discover pretty good ones (condition 2) going for 8000/8500 Euros. Not bad for a so-called "young quasi classic".

Then you'll love the ultimate expression of that vehicle the Holden Torana GTR XU-1, 3.3 litre I6, over 200hp in race trim. There was also going to be a V8 version of this car but the 70's supercar scare in Australia put this one permanently on ice.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

How about...

The series II Ford Lotus Cortina:

 

[KiwiRob]

I like the Mk 1 Lotus Cortina better.

and I would love an Escort RS2000 X-Pack

 

[Mick Briesgau]

...and speaking of traditional 2 door sedans...:

I really liked these back in the day. Amazingly light-footed (for an Opel of the era) and fun to drive. The 1.9 SRs' were really cool. So difficult to find nowadays, but if you're persistent and lucky, you can discover pretty good ones (condition 2) going for 8000/8500 Euros. Not bad for a so-called "young quasi classic".

My father bought one new in 1975 (banana yellow, non-metallic with black vinyl roof, black interior, 2 door) An Ascona 1.6S. He loved that car and it wasn't the slowest in it's time. Don't see them much around these days. I guess rust.

 

[J.E]

...and speaking of traditional 2 door sedans...:

I really liked these back in the day. Amazingly light-footed (for an Opel of the era) and fun to drive. The 1.9 SRs' were really cool. So difficult to find nowadays, but if you're persistent and lucky, you can discover pretty good ones (condition 2) going for 8000/8500 Euros. Not bad for a so-called "young quasi classic".

The only Ascona we got in Brazil was the 3rd gen. It was sold under the Monza name and it had 1.6, 1.8 and 2.0 engines. Three door hatchback, two door sedan (the most popular version) and the four door sedan, which looked exactly like the Ascona C.

My dad had five Monzas. The first one he had was a hatchback 3 door (that Europe never had) and the other four were the two door sedan that differed from the European version for having a quarter-window.

This is the 3-door hatchback, which looked just like a scaled-down version of the Opel Monza (Vauxhall Royale Coupé). It was built until 1988 and it had a sporty SR version (the red one).



And this is the 1991-1996 two door version with more aerodynamic design clearly inspired by the first generation Omega.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

My father bought one new in 1975 (banana yellow, non-metallic with black vinyl roof, black interior, 2 door) An Ascona 1.6S. He loved that car and it wasn't the slowest in it's time. Don't see them much around these days. I guess rust.

I loved that tone of yellow on the series I Ascona (A). Especially on the 1.9SR with the "faux alloy Sportfelgen", black pinstripes on the flanks and sans a vinyl roof. And the end-of-the series Berlina special edition models with those elegant darker metallic paint hues and color matched vinyl roofs. I've always preferred the series I cars over their successors-and they are the ones most sought after today.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

I loved that tone of yellow on the series I Ascona (A). Especially on the 1.9SR with the "faux alloy Sportfelgen", black pinstripes on the flanks and sans a vinyl roof. And the end-of-the series Berlina special edition models with those elegant darker metallic paint hues and color matched vinyl roofs. I've always preferred the series I cars over their successors-and they are the ones most sought after today.

Yes, the Ascona A was the most attractive one imo. It looked so good in that bright yellow...
My older brother bought a Series 2 (Ascona B) 1.9SR in the late 70-ies. Medium blue with black striping. Incredible fast I thought in those days: 180+ km/h
I remember driving with him on sunday mornings over the boarder (NL-D) to drive it on a quiet Autobahn.
Ah, good memories

 

[Deleted member 1071]

Yes, the Ascona A was the most attractive one imo. It looked so good in that bright yellow...
My older brother bought a Series 2 (Ascona B) 1.9SR in the late 70-ies. Medium blue with black striping. Incredible fast I thought in those days: 180+ km/h
I remember driving with him on sunday mornings over the boarder (NL-D) to drive it on a quiet Autobahn.
Ah, good memories

As much as I love the Ascona A, it was the Manta A 1.9 SRs' and especially the GT/E that fascinated me:

...and not to forget the "Black Magic Edition GT/E" which was "oberaffengeil":

Alas, the Manta B left me indifferent, contrary to many of my peers of the day.