5 Series (G60) [Official] The New BMW 5 Series (G60)

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[Mick Briesgau]

Don’t want to dilute this thread

, but this is a proper 5er.

 

[SCOTT27]

Its sad, the 5 has always been strong , Every generation. When i saw the spy pics and saw them not opt for the rhino nose, I thought they were continuing the tradition of the solidity in terms of 5er design.

And I do believe this was the intention.

But the designers were given an impossible task. The managements decision to make the 5er ICE and EV f#cked up the design of the car. The stance was lost in this process.

Hate the EQ line as much as you want but it actually frees up MB designers to design proper looking ICE cars. It’s probably more expensive to do it that way and in the long term more of a hard transition when they go all electric.

With all that said they could still do. Better job despite the work order of a combined platform.

For eg this back seat has no excuse, and so does many other iffy features ( the lower character line, the f#cked up kink etc)

In our hatred pool. I had you first with the comments. What happened man? Have you lost your edge?

 

[dalab]

Don’t want to dilute this thread

, but this is a proper 5er.

Correct, of course it is, but after spending 14 years (adding to the F10 being so similar), I always said that the E-Class W213 was my option to the G30, today I can say that it will not be so, the G60 must break a bit so as not to boring, I don't know if over time the new one will be better or worse, for the moment what it does is make the G30 look instantly dated.

 

[Tourbillon]

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[azeez samara]

Correct, of course it is, but after spending 14 years (adding to the F10 being so similar), I always said that the E-Class W213 was my option to the G30, today I can say that it will not be so, the G60 must break a bit so as not to boring, I don't know if over time the new one will be better or worse, for the moment what it does is make the G30 look instantly dated.

Although it is a bit unfair to compare the m sport trim with the normal trim but yes you are right, the g30 didn't break the mold and bring something new but it was like a faclifted f10 which by the way is one of the best looking bmw till this date but with this new gen you can say that they come up with totally new car and there is zero relation with the outgoing model and just showing the comparison photo which you have posted to any guy who is not into car world will say that the new gen is far more handsome and far more modern looking than the g30 .the new gen really makes the old one looks too much dated already.

 

[Human]

Awesome Pure Bauhaus design
And thank goodness it does not look like it's bigger brother, the squinting pig

 

[Big Sam]

Not a fair comparison lol,the Taycan is just electric version whereas BMW had to make 1 car with both versions.the Taycan is more of a electrified BMW 8 ser

They didn't "have" to do anything of the sort.

Thats not true the i5 costs about €70k while the cheapest Taycan is €95k

you also cant compare a sedan with a luxury sports car then

Literally one of the first things I've done since the i5 was launched is compare it with the Taycan. I've just specced up an i5 eDrive40 M Sport Pro with a few options and it comes to nearly €90,000 in the Netherlands. If a Taycan with a few options is around €110,000, it's a perfectly viable comparison to think "is that extra €20,000 worth it for the Taycan?" The answer is a unanimous "yes". So this idea that a 20% price difference means two cars will not be compared is not true.

I've owned my current Taycan since November last year, and it's a perfectly decent family car. The boot space is great, and don't forget that it has the frunk, which the i5 doesn't have. If that's still not spacious enough for you, there's always the Sport Turismo version (my incoming GTS Sport Turismo is being built in two weeks).

The Taycan *is* a luxury sports car, but it also fills the role of a long-distance family cruiser in my life. This is the advantage the electric drivetrain offers. Interior space. So it absolutely is a valid comparison with the i5 if what you're looking for is the ability to transport a family of four and lots of luggage 1,500km at a time, in a quiet and comfortable, PASM air suspension-assisted, way.

 

[dalab]

It is interesting that a business class in the middle segment such as the 5 series (i5) is compared with the Taycan, which is nothing less than the maximum representative of Porsche in its top of the EV and non-EV line and one of the best in general as well.
I think that being contemplated is already a point in favor for the i5
I consider that the raison d'être of these segments and in terms of taste, the appearance of the Taycan is intended for a more specific Target

 

[leylandi]

EQE comparison with i4 was also interesting

 

[kiki voinea]

Its sad, the 5 has always been strong , Every generation. When i saw the spy pics and saw them not opt for the rhino nose, I thought they were continuing the tradition of the solidity in terms of 5er design.

And I do believe this was the intention.

But the designers were given an impossible task. The managements decision to make the 5er ICE and EV f#cked up the design of the car. The stance was lost in this process.

Hate the EQ line as much as you want but it actually frees up MB designers to design proper looking ICE cars. It’s probably more expensive to do it that way and in the long term more of a hard transition when they go all electric.

With all that said they could still do. Better job despite the work order of a combined platform.

For eg this back seat has no excuse, and so does many other iffy features ( the lower character line, the f#cked up kink etc)

I've seen this kind of issue on other pages in this topic

What does cross platform has to do with lazy design?

I've said it times ago : German manufacturers care ONLY about higher margins , and absolutely 0 costumer satisfaction. Or at least , not in Europe/Americas ( main target is ASIA ) .

It has nothing to do with EV. There are plenty of good looking EVs. Just not made in Europe...

 

[SKY]

It is interesting that a business class in the middle segment such as the 5 series (i5) is compared with the Taycan, which is nothing less than the maximum representative of Porsche in its top of the EV and non-EV line and one of the best in general as well.
I think that being contemplated is already a point in favor for the i5
I consider that the raison d'être of these segments and in terms of taste, the appearance of the Taycan is intended for a more specific Target

It’s also interesting that the i5 is being compared with the EQE, which is nothing more than the maximum representative of the bottom of the EV end.

I think that being contemplated is already a point against the i5.

 

[dalab]

It’s also interesting that the i5 is being compared with the EQE, which is nothing more than the maximum representative of the bottom of the EV end.

I think that being contemplated is already a point against the i5.

That's right, and it's a shame, but what else is left for it to do than be considerate of his eternal rival, it's not the first time that the 5 series crushes its "classic" competitor, BMW is not to blame for Mercedes screwing up

 

[SKY]

That's right, and it's a shame, but what else is left for it to do than be considerate of his eternal rival, it's not the first time that the 5 series crushes its "classic" competitor, BMW is not to blame for Mercedes screwing up

In case the irony of my post was lost in translation… The i5 and its compromised proportions and overdesigned style pale when compared to a Taycan. Which is the benchmark EV.

Somehow, once more you are able to turn a critique to BMW into a silly argument on its favour.

 

[dalab]

In case the irony of my post was lost in translation… The i5 and its compromised proportions and overdesigned style pale when compared to a Taycan. Which is the benchmark EV.

Somehow, once more you are able to turn a critique to BMW into a silly argument on its favour.

That was the idea but not as an argument for anything, just jokingly responding to irony, but yes, sometimes something is lost in the translation

 

[fortuner]

Besides the design ...

Seems a lot of cost cutting in the 5.

No back seat pockets. The rear door cards so plasticy looking. The dash is plastic not even stirched ?

Some parts look cheap.

Seems like the Germans are putting all the money in the EV programme.

 

[SKY]

Besides the design ...

Seems a lot of cost cutting in the 5.

No back seat pockets. The rear door cards so plasticy looking. The dash is plastic not even stirched ?

Some parts look cheap.

Seems like the Germans are putting all the money in the EV programme.

Indeed. Audi and MB have been doing this for years now. G30 is by far the best in terms of interior quality. Going by the pics, not sure it will be the case with the G60.

Are trim inserts really that expensive?

 

[Ralfd]

Indeed. Audi and MB have been doing this for years now. G30 is by far the best in terms of interior quality. Going by the pics, not sure it will be the case with the G60.

Are trim inserts really that expensive?

Some of those issues can be solved in the future, by checking the right boxes.
I am sure, these options will be available in the (near) future:
- Alcantara Headliner
- Extended Leather option
- Leather Dashboard
- BMW Individual Leather Options & Colors

 

[SKY]

Some of those issues can be solved in the future, by checking the right boxes.
I am sure, these options will be available in the (near) future:
- Alcantara Headliner
- Extended Leather option
- Leather Dashboard
- BMW Individual Leather Options & Colors

Not sure those would cover some of the problems we are mentioning. If you look at the door panels, how is leather going to solve how poor they look when the piece of the panel with leather is so small?

 

[Titot]

With the 940 M Aerodynamic alloy wheels.