3 Series (F30) [Official] The new BMW 3 Series Gran Turismo.


The BMW F30 is the sixth generation of the BMW 3 Series range. Body styles: F30 (sedan), F31 (wagon/,touring), F34 (fastback/gran turismo), and F35 (long-wheelbase). For this generation, coupé/convertible models were spun off to create the new BMW 4 Series. Predecessor: BMW E90. Successors: G20 3 Series, and G26 4 Series Gran Coupé (F34). Production: 2011–2018.
^You're not wrong because almost every road test (in the UK at least) are stating adaptive suspension is a must have which definitely wasn't necessary in the past, my old E39 was one of the best riding cars I ever owned and IMO better than the stuff they are producing today.

Makes sense then, from a marketing perspective that is and brilliant! The OE's and their respective supply-chain (in this case adaptive suspension technology) does know how to sell or rather smear-off the tech to us:)

And listen, whoever reads this, we all know it's about revenue, PBT. You are in it for the money so is Audi - to - Zonda, every OEM. The best money is made with OPTIONS and that is the holy truth and nothing but the truth.;)

@Mr. Mercedes the mere thought of M-B using Run-Flat tires is a kick between the legs. Another gimmick, money making scheme, smeared-off onto the poor (if not ripped off enough) buying public. It's evil IMO, costs money, ruins the ride and pollutes for you use twice as much tires during the lifetime of the vehicle.
 
I've been told by dealers that the take up rate for the adaptive suspension option is actually very low, but I don't have any specific data to substantiate that. Anyhow, if it's true I doubt BMW is making much off it. The majority of buyers make do without it and it's a shame 'Sheer driving pleasure' has now become optional.

Interesting point about runflats. We've never kept a BMW long enough to actually notice that tire change intervals are twice as frequent. I'm actually not sure what Mercedes was trying to accomplish by adopting this on the A-class and B-class. Weight saving?
 
I've been told by dealers that the take up rate for the adaptive suspension option is actually very low, but I don't have any specific data to substantiate that.

Yeah? Let me guess, you did a trip around all the BMW dealers in your country and did a research?

Seriously......
 
Hence I clearly said I don't have any specific data to substantiate the claim and clearly stated, 'if it is true'. Honestly Klier. What don't you understand about that sentence? I at no point claimed it was a hard and fast fact supported by extensive and documented evidence. If what the two or three dealers have told me is incorrect or false, then so be it.

A similar situation arose when my friend was looking for an F30 with lane change assistant (blind spot) and radar cruise control. They could not find a single 320i or 328i m sport shipping in to BMW Australia stock that had these two features and explained it would be a special order because the take up rate was so low. Given that he ended up forgoing those and bought a basic 320i M sport with navigation and a few other minor options that they had available. The point being It would not at all be surprising that the take up rate for adaptive suspension would be similarly low. AGAIN, JUST TO BE CLEAR THIS IS NOT BASED ON DATA TAKEN FROM ANY CREDIBLE SOURCE, BUT MERELY AN OBSERVATION BASED ON MY LIMITED EXPERIENCE.

Given your inability to discern the subtleties of what I wrote, though I'm not sure how unclear the statements, 'I don't have any specific data to substantiate that,' and 'if it is true', are and which I deliberately wrote in to my post just to avoid arguments with guys like you, perhaps every post should be followed by a disclaimer similar to the one posted in capitals above.
 
Personally I wouldnt buy 3-series with adaptive suspension. Not needed on our roads.
 
^Your comment explains why we all have different views on numerous things to do with cars, frankly the whole idea of living with a car like a GT3 daily would fill me with dread but for someone else with decently smooth road with be thrilled with the whole idea. As for the 3 series and the choice of with or without adaptive suspension it a no brainier, the 328i I rode without really surprised me just how bouncy BMWs had become and frankly I doubt they'd have received too many glowing comments without it.
 
The advantage of BMW pushing adaptive suspension technology is that as it becomes ubiquitous the price should drop. But seriously, I'm sorry to hear that this is a trend.
 
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Given your inability to discern the subtleties of what I wrote, though I'm not sure how unclear the statements, 'I don't have any specific data to substantiate that,' and 'if it is true', are and which I deliberately wrote in to my post just to avoid arguments with guys like you, perhaps every post should be followed by a disclaimer similar to the one posted in capitals above.

Perhaps indeed, drama queen.
 
Mr.Mercedes, that observation is also true for my local BMW dealer who openly admits adaptive is preferable if ride is a main priority but since it cost on average the same as 1" larger rims that is the option most chose instead..... weird or what as this effects the poor ride even further.

Such is vanity.

P.S.
Since I picked it on both my M3 and S4 I would never not tick the option if it were available as IMO it makes such a difference to how a car copes with bumps.
 
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/bmw/3-series/63797/bmw-328i-gt

We get behind the wheel of the UK-spec BMW 3 Series Gran Turismo to deliver our verdict

Verdict

4

The 3 Series GT is a much more complete car than the 5 Series GT. It looks better, it makes more financial sense, and most importantly of all, it still feels suitably sporty to drive despite its size and weight. For some people it will be the ultimate 3 Series and in this respect, unlike its bigger brother, it most certainly isn't a niche too far.

The BMW 3 Series Gran Turismo has its work cut out. The 3 Series Touring is such a great all-round car that it's hard to justify spending an extra £1,300 on the GT. And let's face it, the car's bigger brother the 5 Series Gran Turismo has hardly been a roaring success.
But has BMW got the recipe right this time or is the 3 GT another niche too far? We tested a UK-specification 328i Luxury model on a variety of roads to find out.
Externally the GT's noticeably bigger hatchback shape instantly separates it from other 3 Series models. Yet, bar some accents on the door trims, the interior design is exactly the same. It feels different to sit in, though, because the seating position is 59mm higher. This gives you a better view of the road but, on the flip side, the raised driving position instantly makes the GT feel less sporty than the normal 3 Series saloon and Touring. And this is exactly how things play out once you hit the road.
Throw the 3 GT at a couple of corners and the extra weight and longer body make it feel less agile than the lower and lighter Touring. The higher centre of gravity doesn't help either as you sense the car's mass moving about more. This forces the tyres to work harder to maintain grip and means the 3 Series Gran Turismo doesn't feel as keyed into the road as the estate.
In short, it's not as much fun. But everything is relative. Compared to many other cars, the 3 GT will still provide sufficient entertainment for most people on a twisty road. Plus, how often do you hurl your car along a back route? Chances are you spend most of your time either on the motorway or chugging about in town. And if you regularly do that with passengers, the GT is actually a better bet than the Touring.
Okay, so it costs £1,300 more. But for that you get more. The boot is bigger - by 25 litres with the seats up and 100 litres with them down - and there's also an extra 75mm of legroom for rear passengers. They also sit higher so have a better view out, although the raised seating position does mean headroom is a little tight for those over six-feet tall. At least you can recline the back seats - a feature reserved just for the GT. So too are the coupe-inspired frameless doors, while 18-inch alloys come standard (other 3 Series cars only get 17s).
Our Luxury test model also had a few key options that suit the GT's more luxurious mandate. For £750, the adaptive M Sport Suspension with its comfort mode helps smooth out the ride, while the £250 variable sport steering makes the car feel more responsive.
At £1,660, the eight-speed sport automatic gearbox may seem pretty steep, but it's slick and works well with the 328i's 2.0-litre turbocharged petrol engine. Obviously this won't be the most popular model - that will be the 320d. But for those who don't plan to do mega miles, its punchy yet revvy nature makes the GT feel surprisingly quick. Be aggressive with the throttle, though, and you'll do well to achieve half the claimed 44mpg economy.
And this brings us back to the original question. Is the 3 GT a worthy addition to the 3 Series range? Well, while it it may not have quite the appeal of the saloon or the Touring for some people, the superior space will be worth the extra cash.
Key specs

  • Price: £34,030
  • Engine: 2.0-litre turbo 4cyl petrol
  • Power/torque: 242bhp/350Nm
  • Transmission: Eight-speed auto, rear-wheel drive
  • 0-62mph: 6.1 seconds
  • Top speed: 155mph
  • Economy: 44.1mpg
  • CO2: 149g/km
  • Equipment: 18-inch alloys, leather upholstery, 6.5-inch colour screen with iDrive, cruise control with brake function, parking sensors, DAB radio
  • On sale: June
 
South-African launch, Junie 13'. Range includes 320i, 320d, 328i, 335i. Models will be R30 000 (USD 2,800) more expensive that their equivalent saloon derivatives.:)

3er GT will appeal to those who are daring
:cool:
- CAR MAGAZINE SA May 2013
 
Look what's coming to fight 3er GT! :LOL:

C-class GT.webp



Source: Autobild
 
I mean this is some BS ..
What does BMW bring to the f#cking table??, a damn hatchback shit looking car like the 3er GT and 5er GT..
Which forces the competition to counter it with an equally ugly damn car.

What does Mercedes bring to the table, a extremely sexy CLS a 4 door coupe, a new kind of sexy.
Which makes BMW counter it, with what can probably be seen as the best looking BMW in the current line up the 6er GC.

Hell MB even makes the competition look better.
While BMW drags everyone down the drain!

Tragic!

PS
Im sure Mercedes GT thingy will look better than the BMW GTs though:D hah!
 
MB also brought a ... B-class to the premium segment. :ROFLMAO:

And BMW & Audi will follow now with analog products (ActiveTourer & SuperAvant). Unfortunately.

BMW also brought the SAC: X6 & X4 - either or both will be rivaled by MB & Audi.
And a mini-SAV: X1 (followed by Q3 & now GLA)

While, yes, MB brought the 4dr coupe - followed by Porsche, Audi (although both in 5dr form) & now BMW as well (in 4dr form).

What did the Audi bring? The small hatches, of course. ;) First A3, and later the A1. A3 has its rivals by BMW & MB, while A1 is still not followed & unrivaled by MB and BMW brand.

Btw, what will the Audi's answer to 3er GT & C-class SportCoupe be? A5 Allroad? :D
 
Btw, what will the Audi's answer to 3er GT & C-class SportCoupe be? A5 Allroad? :D

I thought that Audi's equivalent is the A5 sportback. Are there so many niches now that I am missing some subtle reason why the 3er GT and C-class SportCoupe are not A5 sportback competitors? As I see it, Audi "answered" these cars before they were produced.

Or is the A5 sportback actually a 4er GC competitor? I am somewhat lost in a maze of niches!
 
MB also brought a ... B-class to the premium segment. :ROFLMAO:

And BMW & Audi will follow now with analog products (ActiveTourer & SuperAvant). Unfortunately.

BMW also brought the SAC: X6 & X4 - either or both will be rivaled by MB & Audi.
And a mini-SAV: X1 (followed by Q3 & now GLA)

While, yes, MB brought the 4dr coupe - followed by Porsche, Audi (although both in 5dr form) & now BMW as well (in 4dr form).

What did the Audi bring? The small hatches, of course. ;) First A3, and later the A1. A3 has its rivals by BMW & MB, while A1 is still not followed & unrivaled by MB and BMW brand.

Btw, what will the Audi's answer to 3er GT & C-class SportCoupe be? A5 Allroad? :D

Im sure they will come up with something. they are pretty good at making hatches
 

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