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[Tourbillon]

With Model S Plaid, Tesla One-Ups Porsche with EV Nürburgring Lap Record

The electric vehicle performance wars are on, with Tesla and Porsche duking it out.

www.autoweek.com

"Using a track-pack equipped Model S Plaid, German Formula 3 driver Tom Schwister managed to wrangle the 200-mph sedan to a 7-minute, 25-second lap."

 

[manuelf]

@kiki voinea sorry man! If you would have read my post carefully, you would have been aware, that you are talking about the most extreme niches of ALL if you talk about CCBs make no sense: Heavy track abuse. It is the ONLY case CCBs can be worse than iron discs ... and only from a cost perspective! Not performance! In all other cases CCBs are superior - even if you are not driving on German Autobahns!

 

[kiki voinea]

@kiki voinea sorry man! If you would have read my post carefully, you would have been aware, that you are talking about the most extreme niches of ALL if you talk about CCBs make no sense: Heavy track abuse. It is the ONLY case CCBs can be worse than iron discs ... and only from a cost perspective! Not performance! In all other cases CCBs are superior - even if you are not driving on German Autobahns!

Ok man , whatever makes you feel good.

I don't give a damn about ceramic disks. And as I said , I know few to none people that do ( I know people that even removed them , to keep it for the time of reselling the car ) .

On the streets , at normal speeds , ceramic disks are pointless. End of story

But you might ask : Then why do you need a 800hp Tesla? Or 1000. Or whatever.

Simple: I don't like high speeds. But I like the Gs. I like the 0-60-100-130 ( limits in my country ) . I like flooring it from the green light. And mostly , I like having a car that I can rely when I overtake someone ( especially in a country like mine that does not rely on highways as much ; overtaking is a thing )

And for all of that , I don't need 20k ceramic disks. And most don't.And most count for sales. Niche is niche , enthusiasts don't matter for car manufacturers. If they did , Porsche would have not been around since 2000s

Cheers mate

 

[Sunny]

Additional benefit: You always have a clean paint, while iron discs leave you with rust partcles all over the paint, which can be a pain in the a.. to get rid of if you are no carwash fanatic!

That is not true anymore, at least for PCCBs. Most of the brake dust comes from the pads, not the discs. While earlier PCCB pads were relatively dust free, the newer disk pads compounds are not dust free (apparently something to do with regulations that limit copper). Link

 

[bmwz4coupe]

Hey , I ain't no YouTuber , but I drive that damn thing for almost 2 years , and I live to tell the story...

But you never drive on track or drive fast you say. And neither do 95 % of other Tesla Pain owners you claim. And you all do so wisely with a halfway eloborated performance car like this. But then what is the point with driving a car like this….?!

 

[kiki voinea]

But you might ask : Then why do you need a 800hp Tesla? Or 1000. Or whatever.

Simple: I don't like high speeds. But I like the Gs. I like the 0-60-100-130 ( limits in my country ) . I like flooring it from the green light. And mostly , I like having a car that I can rely when I overtake someone ( especially in a country like mine that does not rely on highways as much ; overtaking is a thing )

But you never drive on track or drive fast you say. And neither do 95 % of other Tesla Pain owners you claim. And you all do so wisely with a halfway eloborated performance car like this. But then what is the point with driving a car like this….?!

STOP

BEING

LAZY

and

CHEAP HATING

 

[tristatez28lt1]

Interesting observations from someone who knows cars and the Ring extremely well:

 

[Bridster]

I guess he means the Taycan Turbo GT? Either way, these sorts of things are pretty common. Nobody really knows what kind of hardware any of the cars that are pushing for the record are running. Nobody also really knows how thorough the Nurburgring inspection is either, or whether there is some money being exchanged under the table. So the Tesla record is probably about as legit as any other.

 

[manuelf]

That is not true anymore, at least for PCCBs. Most of the brake dust comes from the pads, not the discs. While earlier PCCB pads were relatively dust free, the newer disk pads compounds are not dust free (apparently something to do with regulations that limit copper). Link

You are right regarding pad dust. But I was talking about those small iron particles from the steel rotors, which are really awful. Most prominent on white cars, where you have alk the small rust spots at the sides and back of your car. If car is ceramic coated and you are qick in removing it ... it can be handled otherwise a nightmare

 

[manuelf]

And for all of that , I don't need 20k ceramic disks

Yep. That's fine. Btw, for M-cars its rather 10k ... and over time (if you aren't destroying them) you save a bit over the ///M steel brakes as CCB are generally lifetime, while I typically change the steel discs of my M cars 1 or 2 times during ownership.
And I gave you further insight, when/why CCBs may be beneficial in certain cases. So in case of a G8x, which costs around 120k optioning 8k CCB could make perfectly sense!

 

[Jonathan19]

The Game Is On: Tesla's Nurburgring Record May Have Already Been Shattered

Tesla Model S Plaid with Track Package set a new time record on the famous Nurburgring racetrack in Germany, but rumor has it that it didn't last long

www.autoevolution.com

 

[bmwz4coupe]

What is strange is that the Tesla Pain didnt go faster than 7:25 with over 1000 ps and the stickiest tyres you can buy. Tesla seems to be proud that they beat Porsche and Mercedes rivals (well, rivals in their view…), but these cars have much, much less power and less extreme tyres. Of course all the weight of the batteries is a handicap, but still. Now they have finally understood and delivers good brakes as option. Maybe they should start look at the suspension and set up also? Somebody should tell them this, maybe I will….

 

[klier]

Ok man , whatever makes you feel good.

I don't give a damn about ceramic disks. And as I said , I know few to none people that do ( I know people that even removed them , to keep it for the time of reselling the car ) .

On the streets , at normal speeds , ceramic disks are pointless. End of story

But you might ask : Then why do you need a 800hp Tesla? Or 1000. Or whatever.

Simple: I don't like high speeds. But I like the Gs. I like the 0-60-100-130 ( limits in my country ) . I like flooring it from the green light. And mostly , I like having a car that I can rely when I overtake someone ( especially in a country like mine that does not rely on highways as much ; overtaking is a thing )

And for all of that , I don't need 20k ceramic disks. And most don't.And most count for sales. Niche is niche , enthusiasts don't matter for car manufacturers. If they did , Porsche would have not been around since 2000s

Cheers mate

lmao

 

[AndreB]

I have PCCB's on my Panamera and I like the solid braking feel, plus there's no rust, no dust, and look awesome. If money's no object, carbon discs any day!

I won't feel safe pushing a 2.3 ton 1000 hp Tesla on a mountain road knowing the discs might cook.

 

[Tourbillon]

Paul Ricard France.

Unmistakable. Any Bugatti Lover will recognise it.

Tesla Model S Plaid Track Package (< the correct name for the car. Or get a spell checker.)

Please note the number.

Tesla Model S Plaid Track Package at the Nurburgring.

Please note the number.

322- 289km/h= 33km/h difference? Why? How much difference would that make?

The 322km/h footage was or seemingly phased out, why? We know it's potentially far higher it's done runs without a limiter in Canada.

It'll go quicker and faster and that's a fact. How much?

Couldn't careless because having a seemingly shacked car on a production laps record run, to me, is a little thick to say the least.

Mistakes occur but I'm sure it's all pretty solid if not reach out.

 

[Cashmere]

The 322km/h footage was or seemingly phased out, why? We know it's potentially far higher it's done runs without a limiter in Canada.

It'll go quicker and faster and that's a fact. How much?

Couldn't careless because having a seemingly shacked car on a production laps record run, to me, is a little thick to say the least.

Mistakes occur but I'm sure it's all pretty solid if not reach out.

Its hard to tell since we can't see the view of the instrument cluster but I suspect the battery temps might have been sub-optimal on the final stretch which is why the car couldn't break 300.

Great accomplishment for Tesla and I suspect this record will be broken shortly by Porsche or Rimac.

 

[Tourbillon]

Its hard to tell since we can't see the view of the instrument cluster but I suspect the battery temps might have been sub-optimal on the final stretch which is why the car couldn't break 300.

Great accomplishment for Tesla and I suspect this record will be broken shortly by Porsche or Rimac.

I don't know man it just hit a wall. At those speeds it's must be worth at full speed what 1-2 seconds? More or less?

I've never really thought about it. Also it accelerates alot faster than many others cars obviously. When an official 0-300km/h is done people will be shocked.

But yes absolutely great achievements for Tesla they have got the record and that's it.

Rimac though have gone almost radio silent, I don't know anything yet.

And yes Porsche is well they just are! I'm sure they'll deliver.

 

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