Model 3 [Official] Tesla Model 3

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Interior is still terribly boring and has the quality of a car 2 classes below. Despite what everyone says, Tesla is not a luxury brand.

No it's only two generations ahead. You can see now, how the BMW and MB interiors will look in 10 years.

 

[MrRapp]

No it's only two generations ahead. You can see now, how the BMW and MB interiors will look in 10 years.

Funniest quote of the day!

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Funniest quote of the day!

Go in the new S class thread and have fun with its Model S 2012 displays.

 

[MrRapp]

Go in the new S class thread and have fun with its Model S 2012 displays.

So what you are basically saying is that Tesla has similar or better build quality, material use, fit and finish and personalization options than the luxury brands?

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

So what you are basically saying is that Tesla has similar or better build quality, material use, fit and finish and personalization options than the luxury brands?

What do you mean under luxury brands? The producer of the 2 AT? Or the FWD 1er? Tesla is premium, because gives more than the others. Like it or not.

 

[MrRapp]

What do you mean under luxury brands? The producer of the 2 AT? Or the FWD 1er? Tesla is premium, because gives more than the others. Like it or not.

What do you mean it gives more than the others? Panel gaps? Hard plastics? Customers who have had a Model S or X here in Europe are now flocking back to the likes of E-Tron and Taycan as they get a better car and the service that comes along with a premium brand. They don’t like a customer service that cannot be reached, receive an Uber ticket to get home when they bring their car for service or having to wait weeks until the damn thing is fixed. Calling Tesla premium is a big joke. It will be the lack of repeat buyers for Tesla which will be a big concern for them now that other brands are introducing BEV’s by the truckloads in the next couple of years.

 

[Gianclaudio]

Butthurt and euro-snobism is strong in every Tesla thread. Go figure

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Butthurt and euro-snobism is strong in every Tesla thread. Go figure

More like German-snobism.

 

[Sunny]

Be gentle guys. Some just need prodigious amounts off emotional support and vaseline.

 

[Matski]

Thinking the Model III interior looks like shit = European/German Snobbery
Thinking the Model III interior looks premium = Drinking Tesla Kool-Aid at the Jonestown Gigafactory whilst E-loon preaches to his electro-acolytes.

I'm okay with thinking it looks shit personally - I must be at the acceptance stage. I pity those still at the denial stage.

 

[klier]

Can a mod please change the tile of the thread to "Tesla Model 3" instead of "III". It bothers me tremendously. @Matski

Be gentle guys. Some just need prodigious amounts off emotional support and vaseline.

BMW better be in the acceptance stage by now.

Butthurt and euro-snobism is strong in every Tesla thread. Go figure

Brilliant tech, horrible interior design/quality. It is what it is. Exterior is inoffensive and pretty decent.

 

[SKY]

Not sure why some of you take so seriously some others think Tesla's interiors look like crap. I believe they do. I believe other EVs interior look terrible as well (ID.3). A reasonable mind would think most of Tesla's effort has been in offering a ground-breaking EV tech paired with great charging infrastructure. To offer that at a competitive price, Tesla has to cut expense somewhere. Again, some other manufacturers are doing this very same. Not even the Taycan interior looks as rich as Panamera's.

But taking a simple comment about how bad Tesla's interiors look at heart serves as a good example of the times we are living in. With internet warriors putting on a t-shirt with a brand logo and defending it like said brand was paying them a salary or something.

 

[martinbo]

Can a mod please change the tile of the thread to "Tesla Model 3" instead of "III". It bothers me tremendously. @Matski

Done.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

Not sure why some of you take so seriously some others think Tesla's interiors look like crap. I believe they do. I believe other EVs interior look terrible as well (ID.3). A reasonable mind would think most of Tesla's effort has been in offering a ground-breaking EV tech paired with great charging infrastructure. To offer that at a competitive price, Tesla has to cut expense somewhere. Again, some other manufacturers are doing this very same. Not even the Taycan interior looks as rich as Panamera's.

But taking a simple comment about how bad Tesla's interiors look at heart serves as a good example of the times we are living in. With internet warriors putting on a t-shirt with a brand logo and defending it like said brand was paying them a salary or something.

It was perhaps 1 1/2-to-2 years ago, I had some time to kill in Hamburgs' city center while attending to some errands. I stopped by Teslas' store on the Grosse Bleichen just to have a look at the Model 3 and Model S cars on display. I found the interior of the Model S quite satisfactory, although not quite on the level of those of Audi, BMW and M-B. But it was certainly not as shoddy as numerous media reports indicated and it wouldn't have prevented me from considering a Model S were I in the market for such an automobile. Its' tech seems compelling and I like its' exterior design. Residuals are impressive as well. Surely, if money were absolutely no object, I'd almost certainly opt for the Taycan or upcoming Audi eTron GT-but otherwise...? My biggest issue with Tesla would be service accessibility/timely replacement part availability.

As for the Model 3...The interior is so minimalistic that it would be hard to find elements to fault-save perhaps gap widths. Nice car with apparently great tech. Too expensive for what it offers here in Germany. I'll be looking forward to checking out a "Brandenburg produced" Model Y. It just may accompany the VW ID 4 and Skoda Enyaq on my shortlist when new car time comes around.

 

[MrRapp]

More like German-snobism.

Funny thing is though that the same persons who blame others for fanboyism in other threads show the same fanboy behaviour when being confronted with a negative comment about their own ‘favourite’ brand.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Funny thing is though that the same persons who blame others for fanboyism in other threads show the same fanboy behaviour when being confronted with a negative comment about their own ‘favourite’ brand.

My favourite brand is BMW and most probably will always be. But it just hurts to see where they are now and how incompetent their management is.

 

[Matski]

As for the Model 3...The interior is so minimalistic that it would be hard to find elements to fault-save perhaps gap widths

For those that appreciate minimalism on this level I'm sure it's fine. To me it looks like it came from a low-budget dystopian future where emotion is outlawed and anything that inspires feeling is treated as contraband and is destroyed*.



* I think it was Cadillac's they used in Equilibrium to be fair.

 

[Rolf]

This raises the alarm about Tesla and their safety systems. The Autopilot is too free to allow autonomous driving with no backup system to stop the vehicle if someone falls asleep. At least the Mercedes system will pull to the side of the road and stop the car if the driver does not react to any alarms to put their hands on the wheel.

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[martinbo]

This raises the alarm about Tesla and their safety systems. The Autopilot is too free to allow autonomous driving with no backup system to stop the vehicle if someone falls asleep. At least the Mercedes system will pull to the side of the road and stop the car if the driver does not react to any alarms to put their hands on the wheel.

This is not a Tesla problem. This is a human problem. In all but precious few vehicles the driver would have fallen asleep at the wheel leading to an accident - even loss of life. Driving still demands responsibility and common sense. That onus is on the operator - not the operating system.

 

[Cashmere]

So what you are basically saying is that Tesla has similar or better build quality, material use, fit and finish and personalization options than the luxury brands?

It is undeniable that Tesla does have poor build quality. The question to ask is - why is Tesla the the only carmaker to have attained growth and continuously set new sales records year over year (in the middle of a pandemic too) while every other carmaker has declined in spite of Tesla's poor build quality?

Also want to emphasize that Tesla is not a Luxury brand. You don't buy a Tesla because of its interior the same way you don't buy a Bentley because of its lap times. Tesla has differentiated itself as a technology brand and in that realm, there is no carmaker that can compete with it. Top to bottom, they dominate the entire technology stack including:

• Electric Motors & Battery management System - (in house design)
• Battery design & manufacturing (in house design)
• Most Intuitive and fluid car operating system (in house design)
• Most powerful computing hardware (in house design)
• EV Charging infrastructure with highest coverage & convenience (in house design)
• Connected Car fleet with OTA updates (over a million cars globally)
• Driver assistance software & hardware with more miles driven than any other carmaker (in house design)

To compete with Tesla, Legacy carmakers will have to exceed Tesla in the above categories and given the current crop of leadership (maybe the exception of Diess), I don't see that happening anytime soon.