Boxster/Cayman (981) [Official] Porsche Cayman (981)

[mini_cooper4]

Marry me?

When I saw that you quoted me in this thread I knew right away what is written
Making the same mistake a second time?... no thanks I'll find someone better
Let's not gayrail this thread too

 

[bombardier01]

Darker colors have always been my favorite choice on sport cars, especially this new Cayman.

http://car.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20121203_577040.html

 

[Sunny]

^Not a fan of the fake rear strut brace. They even gave a lame reason why it is there - I paraphrase here - "Ferrari and others display their engine through the rear window, our engine is too low (so far so good), so we put a fake brace there so there is something to look at". Whatever happened to form follows function? Why not a whole fake engine then? But minor kink in an otherwise flawless diamond.

 

[Sayyaaf]

^Not a fan of the fake rear strut brace. They even gave a lame reason why it is there - I paraphrase here - "Ferrari and others display their engine through the rear window, our engine is too low (so far so good), so we put a fake brace there so there is something to look at". Whatever happened to form follows function? Why not a whole fake engine then? But minor kink in an otherwise flawless diamond.

lol is it you who brought this up at rennteam ? that is lame of course to present a plastic looking strut which isn't functional.

 

[Centurion]

What, the struts are fake? I thought they were speakers or woofers.

 

[rollo]

^

me too.

 

[K-A]

Can you guys tell me what the differences between the Cayman S and regular Cayman are? ASIDE from the obvious 50 extra HP/larger motor? I mean, are there any other standard features, be it technical, suspension, exterior, interior differences that are accounted in that extra $9K?

And yes, I thought those were speakers/woofers as well, big joke by Porsche to make them fake struts! I would have rather had a flat surface for more real estate to lay things there if need be! I'd tint the back window black anyway.

 

[rollo]

Can you guys tell me what the differences between the Cayman S and regular Cayman are? ASIDE from the obvious 50 extra HP/larger motor? I mean, are there any other standard features, be it technical, suspension, exterior, interior differences that are accounted in that extra $9K?

Looked into this earlier for the USA and from what I can tell: Cayman S gets 330mm front discs instead of 315mm and the brake calipers are painted red, $610 savings on premium package option (not sure what is standard on the S that is not on the Base), $700 savings on the BOSE package and the wheels are 19" instead of 18" ($1,560 option on the Base). So if you opt for the aforementioned upgrades on a Base version it would cost an additional $2,870 compared with an S similarly equipped.

Hope this helps.

 

[Sayyaaf]

Can you guys tell me what the differences between the Cayman S and regular Cayman are? ASIDE from the obvious 50 extra HP/larger motor? I mean, are there any other standard features, be it technical, suspension, exterior, interior differences that are accounted in that extra $9K?

And yes, I thought those were speakers/woofers as well, big joke by Porsche to make them fake struts! I would have rather had a flat surface for more real estate to lay things there if need be! I'd tint the back window black anyway.

Go with the S or look somewhere else other than Porsche. S is barely decent performance nowadays.
Question is, will a properly spec'd S, out perform a base 911 ? probably yes as some said in different threads over the web. So go with the S and save some. Avoid the wheels in the fotos and get the Carrera S wheels.

 

[rollo]

Go with the S or look somewhere else other than Porsche. Avoid the wheels in the fotos and get the Carrera S wheels.

Carrera S wheels with black paint!!!!!

 

[K-A]

Saw this car at Auto Show today. Absolutely STUNNING, BEAUTIFUL, PERFECT. It doesn't even seem too small for me, and headroom is adequate in the Boxster, which means it should be even a tad bit better in the Cayman apparently.

By far my most aspirational car to get, and beauty is, it's $30K cheaper than the previous aspirational car I want/ed (991 Base), and that's for the S model.

 

[Huckfeldt]

Saw this car at Auto Show today. Absolutely STUNNING, BEAUTIFUL, PERFECT. It doesn't even seem too small for me, and headroom is adequate in the Boxster, which means it should be even a tad bit better in the Cayman apparently.

By far my most aspirational car to get, and beauty is, it's $30K cheaper than the previous aspirational car I want/ed (991 Base), and that's for the S model.

Do you find it sexier than a Boxster ? Because the Boxster is one amazingly good looking sportscar.

 

[K-A]

Do you find it sexier than a Boxster ? Because the Boxster is one amazingly good looking sportscar.

You know what, I'll start this by saying I HATE Convertibles.

BUT, I LOVE the new Boxster.

I think the new Cayman absolutely crushed the Boxster in style and presence, because: The roofline is just downright sexy, and reminding me of an Aston, it ads a great deal of extra exotic to the car. The rear window kink at the top, and the overall greenhouse also give me a subtle Bentley vibe, which IMO gives the car a much more expensive look than the Boxster.

Finally, the Cayman has more aggressive bumpers and cladding, i.e the front of the Cayman is cut aggressively enough to where the Boxsters front next to it looked a bit soft and "plain-ish", also little touches (for us in the U.S at least, who deal with this stuff) like the Cayman having clear front markers VS the Boxsters orange markers add to the Cayman's presence-effect.

I always thought to myself: "Damn, I love this Boxster even as a Convertible so much that the Cayman will hopefully be my dream car", and looks as if that's the case.

I will also apprehensively say, and this coming from someone who will never admit to liking a Porsche *more* than a 911 who's 991 incarnation IMO is an amazing evolution, that seeing the Cayman in frame with the 991..... made.... the 911.... look..... a..... bit..... plain? Don't tell anybody I said that.

 

[Huckfeldt]

You know what, I'll start this by saying I HATE Convertibles.

BUT, I LOVE the new Boxster.

I think the new Cayman absolutely crushed the Boxster in style and presence, because: The roofline is just downright sexy, and reminding me of an Aston, it ads a great deal of extra exotic to the car. The rear window kink at the top, and the overall greenhouse also give me a subtle Bentley vibe, which IMO gives the car a much more expensive look than the Boxster.

Finally, the Cayman has more aggressive bumpers and cladding, i.e the front of the Cayman is cut aggressively enough to where the Boxsters front next to it looked a bit soft and "plain-ish", also little touches (for us in the U.S at least, who deal with this stuff) like the Cayman having clear front markers VS the Boxsters orange markers add to the Cayman's presence-effect.

I always thought to myself: "Damn, I love this Boxster even as a Convertible so much that the Cayman will hopefully be my dream car", and looks as if that's the case.

I will also apprehensively say, and this coming from someone who will never admit to liking a Porsche *more* than a 911 who's 991 incarnation IMO is an amazing evolution, that seeing the Cayman in frame with the 991..... made.... the 911.... look..... a..... bit..... plain? Don't tell anybody I said that.

The roofline is nowhere as clumsy as the old Mk1 Cayman, right ? Cause I hate the old roofline with a passion.

 

[Centurion]

The roofline is nowhere as clumsy as the old Mk1 Cayman, right ? Cause I hate the old roofline with a passion.

The roof line isn't yet 100% perfect but has been drastically improved. Whether the Cayman looks better than the Boxster it's a coin toss. But the charm about the Cayman is its resembles of a classic compact 911. The Boxster is no doubt an amazing looker even if I prefer the Cayman.

 

[K-A]

The roofline is nowhere as clumsy as the old Mk1 Cayman, right ? Cause I hate the old roofline with a passion.

Wow, TOTALLY agreed. The last Cayman had a really awkward and unattractive roofline. IMO it came from a design era of Porsche which includes the first gen Cayenne that are very unrefined designs to my eyes.

Considering I'm insanely sensitive to the roofline/greenhouse of the Cayman due to the first gen, my eyes have naturally tried to find flaws or likeness with the second gen Cayman.... but I just can't. IMO it truly is a perfect and flawless greenhouse/roofline, I couldn't imagine them executing it any better. They thankfully made the rear quarter window bigger to look like a true Coupe, but not too big so it still looks sharp and sporty. Again, IMO it's like a combination of an Aston Vantage/Bentley GT and blood line of first gen Cayman roofline, all coming together very well.

Some differences I noted between the S and non S are the non-S has the middle "lip" of the front bumper left in matte black while the gills in the corner-side bumper intakes are painted body color, also the rear exhaust tip is a singular oval one (a tad awkward compared to the S's exhaust maybe, but classier and more smooth/elegant.

The S on the other hand has the front bumper lip painted in body color, however the gills in the corner-side bumper intakes are now matte black. Also, the exhaust is a more aggressive singular dual-tip unit.

 

[klier]

What, the struts are fake? I thought they were speakers or woofers.

Seriously, who cares? Nitpicking for the sake of it?

While we are on the topic of inter-Porsche fratricide, for me a tougher choice than a 991 would be between a Cayman S and a 997.1 GT3.

That's not tough As great as the new Cayman is.......GT3 all the way. That's a no brainer

 

[Centurion]

Seriously, who cares? Nitpicking for the sake of it?

It's not really nitpicking. In the midst of trends like fake carbon fiber and engine sound it would be to see purist cars like the Cayman not feeling the need to compensate with fake touches.

 

[klier]

It's nothing new. I don't think the side vents on an E46 M3 are functional either, yet I never hear anyone about them...

...and before people start claiming those vents are functional:

"Take them apart....BOTH sides. It's a plastic plate that inserts with slats. Nothing goes in, nothing comes out. No gasses, No brake venting, no pixie dust, no magical fairy farts."

^^ nicely said by a mber on another forum. So this trend in faking stuff is nothing new.
I am quite sure older and more special cars are filled with fake stuff too. It's just that people are zooming in on it these days...

 

[Centurion]

It's nothing new. I don't think the side vents on an E46 M3 are functional either, yet I never hear anyone about them...

...and before people start claiming those vents are functional:

"Take them apart....BOTH sides. It's a plastic plate that inserts with slats. Nothing goes in, nothing comes out. No gasses, No brake venting, no pixie dust, no magical fairy farts."

^^ nicely said by a mber on another forum. So this trend in faking stuff is nothing new.
I am quite sure older and more special cars are filled with fake stuff too. It's just that people are zooming in on it these days...

Good points. It is worth mentioning that Porsche is trying to reach a younger audience with the Cayman and Boxster since sales haven't meet Porsche's expectations, so I guess it makes sense to stylize the cars with a big of bling that makes the cars looks faster in the eyes of young buyers.