718 Boxster/Cayman (982) [Official] Porsche 718 Spyder and the 718 Cayman GT4

[Centurion]

Good of Porsche to admit a glaring flaw. The tall gearing would not suit the roads that I drive on.

This doesn't take away from the GT4 being a great car. I am glad that Porsche added it to the lineup a few years ago even though they probably consider it a stepping stone to the GT3 rather than a flagship car.

 

[donkeykong]

Is a PDK-S even possible with the GT4? If so,what are the chances the GT4RS features it?

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

I suppose the reason for not developing a manual with proper ratios is due to the fact that the mounting of the 6 cylinder due to slow sales of the whole range was already an unplanned expense. They had a limited budged in order to revive the sales and they did what they could with the available money.

 

[mihc]

How are gear ratios with 991 GT3 manual? There I hear no complaints.

 

[martinbo]

How are gear ratios with 991 GT3 manual? There I hear no co...

The 991.2 GT3 manual ratios are shorter than in the 982 GT4 although similar in-gear top speeds are reached due to the higher revving engine.

 

[mihc]

Today I saw this Cayman GT4 at our local Porsche dealership. It looks nice in white.

 

[donkeykong]

Porsche Adds Faster PDK Option To Its Hardcore 718 Models

The top 718 models are about to get more popular.

A lot of Porsche enthusiasts were disappointed when the Boxster and Cayman dropped their flat-six engines in favor of smaller, turbocharged flat-fours. This issue was rectified with the 2020 Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 and 2020 Porsche 718 Spyder with starting prices of $99,200 and $96,300 respectively, both are out of the price range for the average buyer. Porsche then added less expensive GTS 4.0 models to the mix but like the GT4 and Spyder, these models were only available with the slower (but more fun) six-speed manual transmission.

We honestly had no complaints that the best 718 models were only offered with a six-speed manual but Porsche clearly realized it was leaving money on the table. The 2021 GTS, GT4, and Spyder models will now offer a seven-speed PDK option.

Now, Porsche enthusiasts who want to enjoy the wonderful 4.0-liter naturally aspirated flat-six engine in a 718 can do it without the hassle of rowing their own gears in traffic. Porsche has not quoted any performance figures for the PDK-equipped models yet but we suspect all of them will post massive acceleration improvements compared to their manual counterparts. They may even edge close to the 911 Carrera in terms of lap times.

As a reminder, the GTS 4.0 models each produce 394 horsepower and can hit 60 mph in around four seconds flat. The GT4 and Spyder each produce 414 hp and can hit 60 mph in around 3.8 seconds. All of the 4.0-liter cars are expected to begin deliveries in early 2021.

 

[donkeykong]

'Python Green' and PTS available for 2021.

 

[martinbo]

Great news! Couldn't come at a worse time.

It'll be a challenge just hanging on to what you've got rather than trading up! How ironic to once again get the perfect sports car in the most imperfect of times.
Let's hope they sell enough to those who do have the means so that there's a good pre-owned selection in 3 - 4 years time. Still hard to decide whether I'd go Cayman or Boxster - the Cayman is definitely the sharper driving machine in my experience but open-top motoring still holds such an appeal.

 

[Centurion]

PDK + PTS = Win

We will see some incredible GT4 specs next year.

Although manual is engaging, PDK is overwhelmingly more popular gearbox and will broaden the appeal of the GTS and GT4.

I think a PDK equipped 718 GTS will be a strong formidable alternative to the base 991 Carerra.

 

[mihc]

PDK + PTS = Win

We will see some incredible GT4 specs ne...

And because of super long gear ratios of the manual, PDK will also be interesting choice...

 

[Centurion]

And because of super long gear ratios of the manual, PDK wi...

Don't pop the champagne yet. We don't know whether the GTS and GT4 will have a compromised PDK designed in a way that prevents the cars from being "Cut price" GT3 for half the money.

The exhaust note is already one area where Porsche have thoroughly distanced the GT4 and GT3.

 

[donkeykong]

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[Centurion]

I have recent discovered that there are engineering firms that offer a gearbox upgrade for the GT4 and Spyder. It shrinks each gear ratio by 16%. For some owners it will address two problems with the long ratio:

1. Not enough engagement with the gear level through tight or twisty roads.
3. Inability to access the top of the RPM range without excessively exceeding speed limits.

GT4 Gearbox Upgrade - RPM Technik - Independent Porsche Specialists

rpmtechnik.co.uk

 

[martinbo]

Erm, ja... that's exact main issue that we've been discussing with specific input from @Sunny.

 

[Centurion]

Erm, ja... that's exact main issue that we've been discussing with specific input from @Sunny.

Yes. The issue has been discussed before but has recently reappeared in 718 GTS reviews.

I am glad that there is an after market fix. The long gearing is not an oversight but more of a compromise that will ensure that GT4 and GTS buyer have a reason go ladder up to a GT3.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Yes. The issue has been discussed before but has recently reappeared in 718 GTS reviews.

I am glad that there is an after market fix. The long gearing is not an oversight but more of a compromise that will ensure that GT4 and GTS buyer have a reason go ladder up to a GT3.

What solution? They do not touch the transmission, they only change the crown and the pinion of the differential. It's a stupid move that completely ruins the balance of the car. Without having no experience in driving Porsches I would suppose that only the first three gears need to be shorter. In the past (some 20 years ago) my friends and I, we were changing the diff of an E36 328i with the shorter diff of the 320i. It was improving the acceleration and the drift capability but worsening almost everything else (high speed calmness, fuel consumption, noise and so on).

 

[Centurion]

It was improving the acceleration and the drift capability but worsening almost everything else (high speed calmness, fuel consumption, noise and so on).

Sound like it med the car more exciting to drive. J/K

If RPM teknik have a demo I might have a go in it next time I am north of London.

 

[martinbo]

What solution? They do not touch the transmission, they only change the crown and the pinion of the differential. It's a stupid move that completely ruins the balance of the car. Without having no experience in driving Porsches I would suppose that only the first three gears need to be shorter. In the past (some 20 years ago) my friends and I, we were changing the diff of an E36 328i with the shorter diff of the 320i. It was improving the acceleration and the drift capability but worsening almost everything else (high speed calmness, fuel consumption, noise and so on).

If what you're saying is true - I haven't gone to look myself - then you're absolutely correct. It's a hatchet job that compromises the product as a whole. I'd leave mine standard.