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Might that be a manual testing? Its hard to make out,but I don't see any paddle shifters.
718 Boxster/Cayman (982) [Official] Porsche 718 Spyder and the 718 Cayman GT4
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The Porsche 982 is the internal designation of the fourth generation Boxster/Cayman (third generation Cayman) made by Porsche. The two models have been marketed as the Porsche 718 Boxster and Porsche 718 Cayman. Production: 2016–2025
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Tough call. I can't tell if it's manual or PDK.
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Is that a paddle?
Yes. Well spotted.
This car will be 100% pure filth like Satan's scrotum.
I cannot wait to read about how it drives!
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The racecar GT4 Clubsport has pure MacPherson struts. A 718 GT4 has MacPherson struts with additional locating components just like that seen on a GT3 RS.
If plain MacPherson struts are a pity then:
a) there are cars out there with fancy double wishbones that wish they'd replicate the front axle excellence of Porsche's GT cars
b) maybe everyone else just doesn't know how to do MacPherson strut suspension right
All I know is that once again you're presenting imagined shortcomings based on your limited view of things.
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Driver's skill is usually the limiting factor in overall performance, not the car.
That being said, double-wishbone should be on the base model. The Panamera has forged aluminum double-wishbones up front.
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PDK equipped Spyder testing with the same side scoops of the GT4.
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Definitely PDK,which isn't a surprise only further confirmation.
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I read that GT4 RS will probably be PDK only, like GT3 RS.
Definitely PDK,which isn'...
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^^
Nice drifts and slides.
The only downside of this car they I can think of is the poor exhaust note. It doesn't sound great as you would expect a 4L 6 cylinder engine to sound. In comparison, the GT3 RS sounds gloriously powerful under load and has more pronounced down shifts.
Nice drifts and slides.
The only downside of this car they I can think of is the poor exhaust note. It doesn't sound great as you would expect a 4L 6 cylinder engine to sound. In comparison, the GT3 RS sounds gloriously powerful under load and has more pronounced down shifts.
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True but if you can afford the car, you can afford an aftermarket exhaust.
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Porsche boss admits they got the Cayman GT4's gearbox wrong
Why the sky-high gearing, Porsche? The man in charge comes clean
We expect near-perfection from Porsche. Therefore, when the company gets things wrong, it tends to stand out like a beacon.
Some of its rivals may get away with a car with unresolved handling or shaky reliability, but if a Porsche displays those qualities, it's a guaranteed headliner.
The Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 is an excellent sports coupe, but it has a flaw.
At present, it's only offered with a six-speed manual gearbox and the ratios of that 'box are, not to put too fine a point on it, berserk.
This is a normally-aspirated engine that thrives on revs. You buy the GT4 to wring every last revolution out of it, nudging against the 8000rpm redline before dipping the clutch, snicking another gear and repeating.
Except you can't. Not on Australian roads anyway. First gear in a Cayman GT4 takes you to around 84km/h, while second will see 137km/h on the clock and third puts you smack into Tracey Grimshaw's crosshairs at 195km/h.
While this is fine on a track, fast road driving delivers a measure of frustration. The car's quite happy and will deliver its best left in second gear, which does much to negate the tactile involvement of buying a manual in the first place.
Wheels recently had the opportunity to talk to the man in charge of the entire Porsche 911 and 718 lines, Frank-Steffen Walliser, and we were unable to resist asking him what the rationale was behind this curious engineering decision.
We expected it to be emissions-based. The real reason was quite different.
"The gearbox we have, don't get me wrong, it's an old one, an existing one and changing the gear was just technically not possible as we were running out of space on the shafts, if we need an adjustment there,” he explains.
Then comes the closest we've heard to an admission that the manual car's not quite what it could be.
"We would have loved to have seen that, [the gearing] a little bit shorter, but technically there was no way. We have an answer, which will come later this year and that's very nice then," he says.
The solution he's talking about, the seven-speed PDK, will have a shortening effect on ratios, but if you're dead-set on three pedals and a stick, you're stuck with what's out there.
First world problems? Maybe. But when you're Porsche, even small criticisms generate big feed-back.
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Why the sky-high gearing, Porsche? The man in charge comes clean
We expect near-perfection from Porsche. Therefore, when the company gets things wrong, it tends to stand out like a beacon.
Some of its rivals may get away with a car with unresolved handling or shaky reliability, but if a Porsche displays those qualities, it's a guaranteed headliner.
The Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 is an excellent sports coupe, but it has a flaw.
At present, it's only offered with a six-speed manual gearbox and the ratios of that 'box are, not to put too fine a point on it, berserk.
This is a normally-aspirated engine that thrives on revs. You buy the GT4 to wring every last revolution out of it, nudging against the 8000rpm redline before dipping the clutch, snicking another gear and repeating.
Except you can't. Not on Australian roads anyway. First gear in a Cayman GT4 takes you to around 84km/h, while second will see 137km/h on the clock and third puts you smack into Tracey Grimshaw's crosshairs at 195km/h.
While this is fine on a track, fast road driving delivers a measure of frustration. The car's quite happy and will deliver its best left in second gear, which does much to negate the tactile involvement of buying a manual in the first place.
Wheels recently had the opportunity to talk to the man in charge of the entire Porsche 911 and 718 lines, Frank-Steffen Walliser, and we were unable to resist asking him what the rationale was behind this curious engineering decision.
We expected it to be emissions-based. The real reason was quite different.
"The gearbox we have, don't get me wrong, it's an old one, an existing one and changing the gear was just technically not possible as we were running out of space on the shafts, if we need an adjustment there,” he explains.
Then comes the closest we've heard to an admission that the manual car's not quite what it could be.
"We would have loved to have seen that, [the gearing] a little bit shorter, but technically there was no way. We have an answer, which will come later this year and that's very nice then," he says.
The solution he's talking about, the seven-speed PDK, will have a shortening effect on ratios, but if you're dead-set on three pedals and a stick, you're stuck with what's out there.
First world problems? Maybe. But when you're Porsche, even small criticisms generate big feed-back.
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Still no real reasons why despite the inside track from the boss man. Lots still unclear like how do you run out of space on a gearbox shaft if you've already got six gears. And the final drive ratio - couldn't that have been shortened? And the upcoming PDK - according to this it's the older 7 speed unit and not the new generation 8 speed PDK, pity.
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Good of him to acknowledge the flaw. But "no space" excuse is bs. Unless he is talking about adding a 7th gear too. I don't know how just shorter ratios by themselves take up more space. And there is an aftermarket shop with far fewer resource that have done it very successfully. And if anything, they could have easily done a shorter final drive (like they did with 7.2RS). Maybe they just didn't want to invest the money/effort.
It is a shame anyway, I went from the GT4 to the RS and in retrospect it was the wrong move, a GT4 with right gearing would have been the perfect weekend car for me and not the RS.
It is a shame anyway, I went from the GT4 to the RS and in retrospect it was the wrong move, a GT4 with right gearing would have been the perfect weekend car for me and not the RS.
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It is a shame as cars like the GT4 are not only more expensive than run-of-the-mill siblings but they're meant to be the pinnacle models in their respective ranges (talking about Spyder too). They shouldn't have any flaws or glaring shortcomings and yet there's this big concession to make. A car like this should get the gearbox it deserves and what a high-revving NA engine demands. You can't go a hamstring it with ludicrously tall gearing for a product that ought to be properly sorted for the price.
84 km/h in first, 137 km/h in second - that's just silly. The punchiness of the Boxer 6 is diluted.
I think you're going to love a GT4 with PDK. Honestly.
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