E-Class W214 [Official] New Mercedes-Benz E-Class (W214)

[Gianclaudio]

Will you guys please stop responding to this imbecile so he will go away.

I was going to write the same. Don't help the cancer spread.

 

[dalab]

^Man you are starting to trash this thread.

I only answered the posts with comments on mine, exchanging ideas and opinions.

 

[leylandi]

We will see at the end of this year as they are, it will be its first full year and 2025...., which I do not doubt will improve its share against the G11 vs the S-Class for the first time in a long time, that is what matters against the "king"

 

[leylandi]

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[dalab]

I was going to write the same. Don't help the cancer spread.

Do it, express yourself, don't hold back

 

[leylandi]

 

[kiki voinea]

So 0-62mph in 4.0sec in real life then for probably $/EUR100,000. Lol

It will be way over 100k.

My guess is around 120k starting price

By the way , this all naming is such a mess.


E53 AMG has 612hp
CLE53 AMG coupe has 472hp
AMG GT53 4door has 457hp
GLE53 has 585hp
EQE53 has 625hp
EQS53 has 658hp

Does that 53 even mean anything ?!

 

[Uygar]

Looks great. I don’t get the fuss about it lol. Doesn’t matter which brand you love or hate, if something is good, you just gotta admit it. That’s it. It’s not that deep.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

It will be way over 100k.

My guess is around 120k starting price

By the way , this all naming is such a mess.


E53 AMG has 612hp
CLE53 AMG coupe has 472hp
AMG GT53 4door has 457hp
GLE53 has 585hp
EQE53 has 625hp
EQS53 has 658hp

Does that 53 even mean anything ?!

Nothing means anything, its all arbitrary.
Same applies to BMW.
Ever since the x00 or x0i stopped being a representation of displacement, it just stopped meaning anything.

Its now just a tier of product.
E200 is the bottom
E300 is the middle
E450 is the upper Middle
E53 is the lesser AMG
E63 is the full AMG

520i is the bottom
530i is the middle
540i is the upper middle
550e is the upper upper middle
i5 M60 is the lesser M car
M5 is the full M car

Confusingly the M60 ICE cars replaces the M50 models, but has the same power. Meanwhile the 50e replaces the 50i but has less power.


Its all a bunch of arbitrary nonsense.

 

[Rolf]

Nothing means anything, its all arbitrary.
Same applies to BMW.
Ever since the x00 or x0i stopped being a representation of displacement, it just stopped meaning anything.

Its now just a tier of product.
E200 is the bottom
E300 is the middle
E450 is the upper Middle
E53 is the lesser AMG
E63 is the full AMG

520i is the bottom
530i is the middle
540i is the upper middle
550e is the upper upper middle
i5 M60 is the lesser M car
M5 is the full M car

Confusingly the M60 ICE cars replaces the M50 models, but has the same power. Meanwhile the 50e replaces the 50i but has less power.


Its all a bunch of arbitrary nonsense.

Bring back the old days when the badge actually related to the engine size. An E63 with a 6.3-liter engine definitely sounds more beefier than an E63 with a 4ltr engine.

It would make more sense to name the E300 to E260 (relating to HP rating of 260PS rather than base only on a middle spec engine car). The E450 will be E380.

BMW 530i can be a BMW 526i lol. BMW 540i will be BMW 538i.

So using horsepower for badge numbering, then BMW and Mercedes will really have to increase the power of its models to match their badges.

The E300 will have a power boost to a 300PS engine.
The BMW 540i will have a power boost to a 400PS engine.

 

[Tourbillon]

Bring back the old days when the badge actually related to the engine size. An E63 with a 6.3-liter engine definitely sounds more beefier than an E63 with a 4ltr engine.

It would make more sense to name the E300 to E260 (relating to HP rating of 260PS rather than base only on a middle spec engine car). The E450 will be E380.

BMW 530i can be a BMW 526i lol. BMW 540i will be BMW 538i.

So using horsepower for badge numbering, then BMW and Mercedes will really have to increase the power of its models to match their badges.

The E300 will have a power boost to a 300PS engine.
The BMW 540i will have a power boost to a 400PS engine.

You've become too old and inflexible my friend. Thing is, so have I LOL!

But very seriously your right ofcourse.

 

[Tourbillon]

Do it, express yourself, don't hold back

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[Rolf]

You've become too old and inflexible my friend. Thing is, so have I LOL!

But very seriously your right ofcourse.

We old friends hanging out together lol. Nowadays a E300 doesn't sound so impressive as an E200 as they use the same damn engine!! Lol.

It was much more impressive with the 1985 W124, the 300E had a 3.0 inline 6, which was far more impressive than the 200E with its breathless 2.0 4 cylinder.

 

[Matski]

There's been exceptions to the badge = displacement 'rule' for 50 years, it's never been worth getting that hung up on.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

Bring back the old days when the badge actually related to the engine size. An E63 with a 6.3-liter engine definitely sounds more beefier than an E63 with a 4ltr engine.

It would make more sense to name the E300 to E260 (relating to HP rating of 260PS rather than base only on a middle spec engine car). The E450 will be E380.

BMW 530i can be a BMW 526i lol. BMW 540i will be BMW 538i.

So using horsepower for badge numbering, then BMW and Mercedes will really have to increase the power of its models to match their badges.

The E300 will have a power boost to a 300PS engine.
The BMW 540i will have a power boost to a 400PS engine.

I agree, I think the badge should match the Horsepower figures.

 

[dalab]

Its now just a tier of product.

Its all a bunch of arbitrary nonsense.

In any case, as you yourself indicate, it is not so arbitrary in the end, "Its now just a tier of product" at least it means something, but not what it meant for us, which was the "best" meaning.

It was much more impressive with the 1985 W124, the 300E had a 3.0 inline 6,

That icon was built with merit and it hurts a little that they diluted it, but like so many others, I think they fell prey to the regulations that forced them to change it and prostitute the nomenclature, perhaps also to the increase in variants in models.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

In any case, as you yourself indicate, it is not so arbitrary in the end, "Its now just a tier of product" at least it means something, but not what it meant for us, which was the "best" meaning.

Its arbitrary because they could pick any number to signify "low, medium, high"
Could be E150, E280 and E350, or E300, E400 and E500.

The actual numbers don't matter any more.

 

[dalab]

Its arbitrary because they could pick any number to signify "low, medium, high"
Could be E150, E280 and E350, or E300, E400 and E500.

The actual numbers don't matter any more.

I agree, but they play on the nostalgia of association with the deep-rooted previous nomenclature, for the new generation of young people (2035), who will buy only EV's I suppose they will only be something distant, letters and numbers without a place in their time (well, the letter will always continue (segment) I think)

 

[empower77]

maybe the S63 powerplant for the E63!

Which will be a $160-180K E class. Let that sink in

 

[empower77]

F'ing LMAO. An old school midsize ICE car weighs 2000 kg at Mercedes these days.

E450d.... hahaha I wonder how many they are going to sell. Luckily I have 10 fingers so I can keep track.

How
Much do you think the 5 series weighs.. don’t think it’s that far off