S-Class (W222/C217/A217) [Official] Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W222 Facelift) 2017-2020

[HUTSUTAo]

is the lifecycle of the w222 expected to be 7 years or 8 years?

 

[lukeswiss]

Should be the standard 7 shouldn't it ?

 

[HUTSUTAo]

Should be the standard 7 shouldn't it ?

the w221 had an almost 8 years lifecycle.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

is the lifecycle of the w222 expected to be 7 years or 8 years?

W221 intro 2005, FL 2009, new S 2013 (8 years).
W222 intro 2013, FL 2017, new S 2021? I wouldn’t be surprised if it stays ‘till 2021. It’s still selling very well and gives MB more time to develop complicated autonomous technique.

 

[Emanuil]

What a stunner... Is this cavansite blue?

Mercedes-AMG S 63 V222 2017

 

[Sovereign]

What a beautiful car. W223 in my opinion has once again established Mercedes place at the top regardless of the price bracket just like the top S cars before W140. And the dropping line.... I just love it. 7 series and A8 need the Rolls and Bentley to compete with this car.

 

[JLBM]

Current S Class still looks gorgeous and fresh. Interior is wonderful. It’s a roaring success and the rightful leader of the segment. Stunning job MB!

 

[tennmb]

W221 intro 2005, FL 2009, new S 2013 (8 years).
W222 intro 2013, FL 2017, new S 2021? I wouldn’t be surprised if it stays ‘till 2021. It’s still selling very well and gives MB more time to develop complicated autonomous technique.

As perfect as this S-class is, i wouldn't object to a 2nd facelift.

-Add MBUX. Add next gen autonomous driving. Exterior and interior refresh.
This chassis is bliss.

 

[Monster]

As perfect as this S-class is, i wouldn't object to a 2nd facelift.

-Add MBUX. Add next gen autonomous driving. Exterior and interior refresh.
This chassis is bliss.

Exactly, the only car that will date the current S class is the next S class, if MB do a good job with it.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

As perfect as this S-class is, i wouldn't object to a 2nd facelift.

-Add MBUX. Add next gen autonomous driving. Exterior and interior refresh.
This chassis is bliss.

I wouldn’t have any objections myself. As far as MBUX is concerned, that doesn’t bring much more than a touchscreen possibility. The current Comand NTG 5.5 already offers for instance the advanced linguatronic/voicecontrol...

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

I wouldn’t have any objections myself. As far as MBUX is concerned, that doesn’t bring much more than a touchscreen possibility. The current Command NTG 5.5 already offers for instance the progressive linguatronic/voicecontrol...

Yes I read somewhere that NTG 5.5 incorporates much of MBUX apart from the touchscreen. This is a fairly good outcome IMO.

I also read an article in Wheels Magazine that Mercedes were quite impressed by the implementation of autonomous driving tech in the A8 and how Audi had overcome a number of obstacles related to the technology, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they wish to ensure the S is a significant step in autonomous driving.

 

[Merc1]

I couldn't care less about it as I like to drive, but I get why they have to do it.

M

 

[sako97]

Name a better comfort 1-2 punch:

 

[Mick Briesgau]

^ Could be in Knokke. Come to think of it, 1-2 punch... Jean-Claude van Damme

 

[Rolf]

@DeDe my friend do you have the scan comparison with the S400 d and S450 in latest AMS mag? I think this is a highly interesting comparison that @Mick Briesgau would be interested in

Mercedes S 400 d gegen S 450

Luxuslimousine mit neuem Sechszylinder-Diesel oder -Benziner. Vergleichstest

 

[Mick Briesgau]

@DeDe my friend do you have the scan comparison with the S400 d and S450 in latest AMS mag? I think this is a highly interesting comparison that @Mick Briesgau would be interested in

Mercedes S 400 d gegen S 450

Luxuslimousine mit neuem Sechszylinder-Diesel oder -Benziner. Vergleichstest

Ha ha Rolf, I’ve read this test already. And the winner is ..... 400d

 

[martinbo]

I don't see this video posted here or in the Mercedes Benz media thread, perhaps I need to look harder...

Still, it's worth slotting this in the S-Class thread too.

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Pretty powerful stuff. I remember that ad running in SA like it was yesterday.
I also must add that I way prefer "Engineered like no other car in the world" over the pretentious "The Best or Nothing" catchphrase. My grandfather had the same W123 - he was chuffed as chips when that ad came out.

 

[Rolf]

I don't see this video posted here or in the Mercedes Benz media thread, perhaps I need to look harder...

Still, it's worth slotting this in the S-Class thread too.

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Pretty powerful stuff. I remember that ad running in SA like it was yesterday.
I also must add that I way prefer "Engineered like no other car in the world" over the pretentious "The Best or Nothing" catchphrase. My grandfather had the same W123 - he was chuffed as chips when that ad came out.

That advert literally helped propel Mercedes Benz to a level of automobile safety that was benchmark stuff in those days. I still remember driving along Chapman's drive when I was a kid and my dad was driving a 1975 W116 350SE at the same time this advert came out and he could never stop talking about it feeling quite proud that he had bought that S-class for our family. He was really chuffed with that car as it was also built like a tank with incredible heavy doors that closed like a bank vault. We always felt very safe and comfortable in that 350SE.

 

[Merc1]

WOW powerful stuff. Are they going to bring that slogan back now? That would be great. That said, cars were tanks then, a modern S-Class driver won't survive such a crash I'm sure.

M

 

[sako97]

Best advert I've seen in a long time.

And they didn't muck about and give him a base S, they gave him a loaded S63.

WOW powerful stuff. Are they going to bring that slogan back now? That would be great. That said, cars were tanks then, a modern S-Class driver won't survive such a crash I'm sure.

M

I'm quite sure a modern S would've faired better under all same conditions. From W221 to W222 alone torsional rigidity increased nearly 45% percent.

Mercedes W221 S-class 27,500 Nm/deg
Mercedes W222 S-class 40,500 Nm/deg

The torsional rigidity is a critical parameter, which measures how much force is needed to “twist” the car body frame by one degree. The larger of the value, the better.

"Built like tanks" is a tactile perception.