E-Class (W213/C238/A238) [Official] Mercedes-Benz E-Class W213

[WAND]

@Mick Briesgau
"Even the normal Burmester in the E sounds much less than the normal Burmester in the W222. The old HK system in my former driven C219 CLS sounded even better than the normal Burmester in the E."
What you think about BOSE ?
I like BOSE the most, for "standard" sound systems options, high end Burmester and B&O aren't in same price range, they are way more expensive.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

@Mick Briesgau
"Even the normal Burmester in the E sounds much less than the normal Burmester in the W222. The old HK system in my former driven C219 CLS sounded even better than the normal Burmester in the E."
What you think about BOSE ?
I like BOSE the most, for "standard" sound systems options, high end Burmester and B&O aren't in same price range, they are way more expensive.

I haven't much experience with BOSE soundsystems in cars @WAND. So, I can't say that much about BOSE. I've driven once a A8 with BOSE system, but I can't remember vividly how it sounded.

 

[Rolf]

Yeah, I meant the W210.

The W211 and W213 are beautiful.

W212 is 'ok'.

I was the passenger in a work colleagues 2008 FL E350 W211 Avantgarde today and was hugely impressed by this car, it still feels so stable on the road with excellent ride absorption and feeling of solidity. The car feels built like a rock, nice heavy thunk when you close the doors, the material used inside the cabin still feels soft to the touch on the dash and middle console and the wood felt dense with no hollow feeling when I tapped it with my hands. The V6 engine is smooth with a nice sound and the car is very quiet on the go. This E-class is so good looking, still modern looking and not aged at all in my opinion, it looks smaller than it really is, almost C-class from the outside, it disguises its size very well. Only the interior I would say looks slightly dated compared to new cars.

 

[fortuner]

Hello guys I was away and read some of the posts regarding the E quality just my own opinion as I have one and just took it today to Mercedes they sent me a letter for some upgrades on the navigation and some other factory work free of charge.

I sat in a few cars while I was waiting for a lift back home C class Glc coupe.. Anyways I drive my moms C class ateladr theee times a week so I have good comparisons with E and C..

Personally I can't agree with the comments that E interior is not above the C as I think it is much the better of the interior.. The seats are way batter the fit and finish I find in my E is very very good I really have not a single rattle or noise touch wood car now has 9000miles.. yes the S class is a better car but the E I think is way better then the C in built and quality I owned a W212 as well which was rock solid I really don't think the W213 is worse of in any department in terms of build or strength or quality..

The in part I wish was different is the centre consol I would love it to have been wood.

Other then that I love my E.. And they seem to be all over the place in Uk.

I May test a S350 d L later today

 

[klier]

I was the passenger in a work colleagues 2008 FL E350 W211 Avantgarde today and was hugely impressed by this car, it still feels so stable on the road with excellent ride absorption and feeling of solidity.

Yes, but the actual ride and handling is not of this time anymore. Same counts for the E39.
I haven't driven a W211 in a loooong time, but the E39 feels like it's made out of cardboard compared to modern cars.

 

[WAND]

I haven't much experience with BOSE soundsystems in cars @WAND. So, I can't say that much about BOSE. I've driven once a A8 with BOSE system, but I can't remember vividly how it sounded.

I have experience with A8 BOSE sound system, prevoius model, excelent sound system.
Also Cayenne GTS with BOSE, awesome sound system too.
And in C215 , of course it is not powerful as these two, but for time when released is good, nice and clear sound.
So BOSE is my favorite for "standard" sound systems, of course unless you have Burmester high end or B&O which are better for sure, but they are around 7,5k option, while "standard" variants are about 1k option.

 

[mercpassion]

Hello guys I was away and read some of the posts regarding the E quality just my own opinion as I have one and just took it today to Mercedes they sent me a letter for some upgrades on the navigation and some other factory work free of charge.

I sat in a few cars while I was waiting for a lift back home C class Glc coupe.. Anyways I drive my moms C class ateladr theee times a week so I have good comparisons with E and C..

Personally I can't agree with the comments that E interior is not above the C as I think it is much the better of the interior.. The seats are way batter the fit and finish I find in my E is very very good I really have not a single rattle or noise touch wood car now has 9000miles.. yes the S class is a better car but the E I think is way better then the C in built and quality I owned a W212 as well which was rock solid I really don't think the W213 is worse of in any department in terms of build or strength or quality..

The in part I wish was different is the centre consol I would love it to have been wood.

Other then that I love my E.. And they seem to be all over the place in Uk.

I May test a S350 d L later today

Very informative coming from an owner having had both the 212 and 213..I agree with you and find it pretty implausible with the bashing of the E's quality, I personally think most of these negative experiences come from the usual early batch botch up of cars, but I think it is wiser to trust owners like you and Eng.ahad..

 

[mercpassion]

I was the passenger in a work colleagues 2008 FL E350 W211 Avantgarde today and was hugely impressed by this car, it still feels so stable on the road with excellent ride absorption and feeling of solidity. The car feels built like a rock, nice heavy thunk when you close the doors, the material used inside the cabin still feels soft to the touch on the dash and middle console and the wood felt dense with no hollow feeling when I tapped it with my hands. The V6 engine is smooth with a nice sound and the car is very quiet on the go. This E-class is so good looking, still modern looking and not aged at all in my opinion, it looks smaller than it really is, almost C-class from the outside, it disguises its size very well. Only the interior I would say looks slightly dated compared to new cars.

The W211 FL was a superb car, but I just wish they put more emphasis on changing some switchgear like the W203 FL and offered a proper AMG sport..

 

[fortuner]

Hey guys just a bit of a update on my E..I was sent a letter for some work that needed to.be done last year so I booked and went to Mercedes Watford Monday for the work tof be done it was some wiring they changed and then they did some software upgrade on the car first time I heard of this it's almost like and most upgrade on the phone where they spent like 4 hours upgrading some things.

Anywyas I found a few small and nice changes the dual screen as those who used will know you can setup up to 5 differnt display and now with the upgrade u get more information in the split screen on navigation.Also when u change now between sport classic and progressive even the left side screen colours change which is a coold new feature.

I also found or felt my touch pads on the steering were a little faster I hope I not imagining things lol..

Overall it's nice to get these small upgrades free and nice to see MB new system of upgrades.

I drove a s 350d L while I was their what a beauty of a car.

I know why the S class is called the king of the road it's a magical drive.

 

[mercpassion]

^ Looks beaut from that angle mate..

 

[fortuner]

^ Looks beaut from that angle mate..

Yeah Mate I love it more I drive it I love it and I think it looks classy and sporty..I thought it was a brilliant ride till I drive the S class lol that's in another league.

One day I'll be lucky like Mick lol.

 

[mercpassion]

Yeah Mate I love it more I drive it I love it and I think it looks classy and sporty..I thought it was a brilliant ride till I drive the S class lol that's in another league.

One day I'll be lucky like Mick lol.

Lol, don't we all.., but you're right in saying, the E is still a great car..

 

[Mick Briesgau]

Yeah Mate I love it more I drive it I love it and I think it looks classy and sporty..I thought it was a brilliant ride till I drive the S class lol that's in another league.

One day I'll be lucky like Mick lol.

You are lucky, by driving such a beautiful E klasse...

 

[Eng.ahad]

Hey guys just a bit of a update on my E..I was sent a letter for some work that needed to.be done last year so I booked and went to Mercedes Watford Monday for the work tof be done it was some wiring they changed and then they did some software upgrade on the car first time I heard of this it's almost like and most upgrade on the phone where they spent like 4 hours upgrading some things.

Anywyas I found a few small and nice changes the dual screen as those who used will know you can setup up to 5 differnt display and now with the upgrade u get more information in the split screen on navigation.Also when u change now between sport classic and progressive even the left side screen colours change which is a coold new feature.

I also found or felt my touch pads on the steering were a little faster I hope I not imagining things lol..

Overall it's nice to get these small upgrades free and nice to see MB new system of upgrades.

[/ATTACH]

I have 9200 km on my car, waiting for the 15,000 km to take it to the service. There is a software update feature in the car setting, it does work when I connect the car to the internet, but since I bought the car I have never seen any updates available, why they are doing the software upgrades at the dealer workshop if there are such feature in the car ? is MB not ready to start publishing their updates to the car directly via internet ?

Regarding the new COMMAND system, the more I use the car system the more I get used to it and do shortcuts, I love the system representation with its colors and different menus, also it has many feature and different display screens (specially combines with the dual screen), but I still feel that they need to work on the data processing speed, I can see that BMW and Audi systems are faster in response, however the new E screen resolution is the best I have seen so far.

 

[HUTSUTAo]

I have 9200 km on my car, waiting for the 15,000 km to take it to the service. There is a software update feature in the car setting, it does work when I connect the car to the internet, but since I bought the car I have never seen any updates available, why they are doing the software upgrades at the dealer workshop if there are such feature in the car ? is MB not ready to start publishing their updates to the car directly via internet ?

Regarding the new COMMAND system, the more I use the car system the more I get used to it and do shortcuts, I love the system representation with its colors and different menus, also it has many feature and different display screens (specially combines with the dual screen), but I still feel that they need to work on the data processing speed, I can see that BMW and Audi systems are faster in response, however the new E screen resolution is the best I have seen so far.

that is alot of km within a short period of time.

this is my lexus gs300 at the end of the 10 years life cycle in Singapore

 

[fortuner]

I have 9200 km on my car, waiting for the 15,000 km to take it to the service. There is a software update feature in the car setting, it does work when I connect the car to the internet, but since I bought the car I have never seen any updates available, why they are doing the software upgrades at the dealer workshop if there are such feature in the car ? is MB not ready to start publishing their updates to the car directly via internet ?

Regarding the new COMMAND system, the more I use the car system the more I get used to it and do shortcuts, I love the system representation with its colors and different menus, also it has many feature and different display screens (specially combines with the dual screen), but I still feel that they need to work on the data processing speed, I can see that BMW and Audi systems are faster in response, however the new E screen resolution is the best I have seen so far.

Hey mate I think this upgrade can only be done at the dealer I am not sure why but it was a long update anyways I think it's safer for them to do.. the last thing u want is a update error and then you messed up..

About the new command I love it and love the display.. I love the steering touch pads...

 

[Eng.ahad]

that is alot of km within a short period of time.

this is my lexus gs300 at the end of the 10 years life cycle in Singapore

Actually, I use my E400 on daily basis, and KSA is a big country with lots of highways, I also travel from city to city and to other Arabian Gulf neighbor countries, I love traveling long distances with this car, it is extremely quite and comfortable to drive. Off topic, my old Infiniti G35 2007 sedan has now 170,000 km, I own it now for 10 years and I would say I still enjoy driving it, what a solid and powerful car!!

 

[AndreB]

Drove an E220d for 5 days. Here are my impressions:

The pros:
- good driving dynamics
- air vents have a solid feel
- power is impressive for a two liter engine, a bit noisy under high load
- 9G gearbox is almost on par with ZF8, shifts smoothly
- good space inside
- ambient lightning looks very nice

The bad things:
- basic trim looks cheap, plastic is hard and buttons on the central console are "shacking"
- analog cluster is somehow perpendicular and boring, the previous model has better details
- navigation system is very slow, like it doesn't have enough processing power
- command system usability is below Audi MMI and it looks like an old Nokia OS
- steel suspension is not so refined and produce too much road noise

As I'm considering buying an S-class Coupe, my biggest concern is the slow navigation response.
I hope there is better processing power in that one.

I feel like MB is really cutting costs, a big disappointment being the missing fabric on the trunk ceiling, it looks so bad.

My girlfriend 2006 CLK has more solid feel which really impressed me about MB, however it looks like time has changed.

So for anyone who's looking to buy a true Mercedes Benz, get air suspension, leather trim and full LCD cluster.

 

[Vivaki]

The new Mercedes-Benz E-class has been the voted the winner of the UK Car of the Year Awards 2017. Having already been awarded the accolade of Best Executive Car when the category winners were announced at the beginning of January, the E-class then cruised to victory in the overall vote.

The Mercedes S-class Cabriolet won the Best Cabriolet category.

John Challen, director of the UK Car of the Year Awards, said: “Mercedes-Benz has a long history of creating impressive saloon cars and the new E-class continues this trend and raises the bar in the executive vehicle sector.

“Stunning inside and out, it takes driver and passengers into the realms of luxury. The level of technology – and the attention to detail – at your fingertips is astounding.”

Fellow director Alisdair Suttie added: “The E-class has it all and does it very well. Its refinement, comfort and style mean you want for nothing else.”

I am a huge fan of the current E-class, rating its class, comfort and quality, as well as an excellent range of engines.

My fellow UK CotY judges clearly agreed. Top Gear’s Tom Ford said: “The E-Class reigns supreme: endlessly entertaining interior, top-notch quality, comforting and comfortable dynamics.”

David Ross, editor of HonestJohn.co.uk, added: “If you’re looking for a near perfect car – surely this is it. The E-class is just sublime. Comfortable, quiet and quick – it’s a very easy car to love,” while Fleet World’s Alex Grant claimed the Mercedes was “a technological showcase. Beautifully built and a pleasure to drive, wherever your journey takes you, the E-class resets the executive class benchmarks”.

In the overall category, the E-class triumphed over the Volvo V90 and Jaguar F-Pace, which finished in joint second place, with Hyundai’s Ioniq and the Ford Focus RS in joint third.

Launched in 2014, the UK Car of the Year Awards are judged by 27 of Britain’s most-read motoring journalists. Each judge uses their expertise to pick out the top performer in 12 vehicle categories, before deciding the overall winner from their favourites in each class.

CATEGORY WINNERS IN THE 2017 UK CAR OF THE YEAR AWARDS
Best Small Hatch – Hyundai Ioniq

Best Family Car – Toyota Prius

Best Executive Car – Mercedes-Benz E-class

Best Luxury Car – Rolls-Royce Dawn

Best Estate Car – Volvo V90

Best MPV – Renault Scénic/Grand Scénic

Best Crossover – Seat Ateca

Best Large Crossover – Jaguar F-Pace

Best Coupe – Porsche 718 Cayman

Best Cabriolet – Mercedes-Benz S-class Cabriolet

Best Sports Car – Porsche 718 Boxster

Best Performance Car – Ford Focus RS

Receiving the award, Krishan Bodhani, head of smart and product management, Mercedes-Benz Cars UK, said: “The E-class is one of our core models; it’s at the very heart of our brand. When we unveiled the all-new car last year it showcased a host of innovative technology which makes it one of the most advanced cars in its segment. Together with its modern, comfortable cabin the E-class presents a very desirable package – it’s great to see it getting the recognition it deserves.”

The UK Car of the Year Awards are voted for by a panel of 27 leading motoring journalists. The award is supported by Cox Automotive, whose UK brands include Manheim and Motors.co.uk.

Mercedes E-class wins UK Car of the Year 2017 award

 

[hovabongZA]

Pretty obvious that the new 5 series wasn't in there .