AMG ONE [Official] Mercedes-AMG Project ONE

[Matski]

It's always the totality of an engineering package that wins the day.

... well, that and a pro racing driver that knows how to manage the energy in the system so the car doesn't lose power during the lap.

 

[tristatez28lt1]

Maro Engel beats previous record for road-legal production cars by a remarkable eight seconds despite less-than-ideal track conditions.

Based on the track variant known from the sport auto Super Test, the lap time is 6:30.705 minutes.

That was really an unforgettable experience,” said Maro Engel after completing the record lap. “I didn’t expect that we would be able to set such a lap time with these track conditions. In some crucial areas of the track, it hadn’t dried completely yet and was therefore tricky. That was a special challenge. We tried to find the optimal deployment strategy during the pre-tests. Like Lewis Hamilton and George Russell on their race weekends, I also had to deploy the electrical energy of the hybrid drive in the best possible way. That’s not easy, especially with this length of track. In addition, the DRS function had to be used optimally.

At first, it didn't look like a new record. The weather was sunny with a light wind, but the track was – typical of the Nürburgring in autumn – still damp and partly dirty in some areas. In some sections, such as the fast “Kesselchen” section, the ideal line had not yet completely dried. All in all, they were not ideal conditions – especially for a vehicle in this extreme performance class. By the time the track was passable for a first fast lap, the remaining time had whittled down to less than an hour. With air and asphalt temperatures of just under 20 degrees Celsius, this was only enough for a maximum of four fast laps.

Mercedes-AMG brought two ONEs to the Ring, which meant that the limited time could be used effectively. According to the specifications of Nürburgring 1927 GmbH & Co. KG, both vehicles were inspected and documented by TÜV Rheinland to ensure that they were in series production. A notary confirmed the proper condition of the vehicles and the correct execution of the record runs.

The record lap in the hybrid super sports car with Formula 1™ technology required not only driving skills, but also an intelligent driving style: Maro Engel used special energy management for the lap of the 20.8 km Nordschleife. This means that he could not accelerate to the maximum possible speed on all sections of the track, but also had to manage his energy. To do this, he used the four-stage Energy Flow Control (EFC) of the AMG ONE and let off the gas a little earlier in some sections, known as “lift and coast” in technical jargon. In addition, Maro also used energy recovery in the braking phases. Thus, even on the long Döttinger Höhe, the high-performance battery still offered enough power for a 338 km/h top speed.

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I obviously meant the SA Supertest lap

 

[duesy]

From Brixworth, amongst others? Never doubted them at all, but they've taken some beatings metaphorically speaking in other places. Hopefully this will re address that situation. An amazing feat of engineering but extremely complex to bring to fruition.

Hopefully the production final specifications ones live up to their clients expectations. I'm sure they will!

Yes indeed. It took Porsche 6 years (and developmental costs associated with many iterations in between) to shave 9 seconds from 991.2 GT3 RS MR's time and arrive at 91.2 GT2 RS MR's 6.40+ record. The AMG One is 5 seconds faster than that in suboptimal conditions (and I'd say even 1-1.5 seconds faster under perfect conditions). Its engineers and masterminds should feel vindicated. Plus, its owners will take home a unique piece of engineering history and automotive design that will only increase in value.

 

[Grosser]

Exactly as much as 6:20 and much closer than 6:15.

True, but it was obvious it will be little bit faster than AMG GT BS

 

[duesy]

... well, that and a pro racing driver that knows how to manage the energy in the system so the car doesn't lose power during the lap.

True. And I'd say that's true about any hypercar that is both challenging and rewarding to drive––from the F40 to Valkyrie.

 

[Tourbillon]

Yes indeed. It took Porsche 6 years (and developmental costs associated with many iterations in between) to shave 9 seconds from 991.2 GT3 RS MR's time and arrive at 91.2 GT2 RS MR's 6.40+ record. The AMG One is 5 seconds faster than that in suboptimal conditions (and I'd say even 1-1.5 seconds faster under perfect conditions). Its engineers and masterminds should feel vindicated. Plus, its owners will take home a unique piece of engineering history and automotive design that will only increase in value.

And ultimately that's all that matters. It'll be unique regardless of anything else. And I've been saying it for years because of that in the future it's worth in engineering and financial returns will be huge. Because those that understand and are knowledgeable will appreciate that fact. The rest well, leave them to it, it changes nothing and that's all it is. Nothing.

 

[Sunny]

Kudos to Mercedes for actually publishing a lap time. Good lap too, but not out of this world either given all the hyperbole. For perspective, Mercedes early on claimed it could beat potentially beat 919 Evo's 5:11. Which was just complete bull shit.

 

[bmwz4coupe]

I see two other cars that should be able to do a similar fast lap; the Senna and the SF90. But I think they might be a few seconds behind.
The Valkyrie however would smash it. But only if it would be capable of doing the complete lap without issues. Which it probably would not.

 

[Bridster]

I see two other cars that should be able to do a similar fast lap; the Senna and the SF90. But I think they might be a few seconds behind.
The Valkyrie however would smash it. But only if it would be capable of doing the complete lap without issues. Which it probably would not.

The Senna - possibly. The SF90, nah, maybe low 6:40s.

The Valkyrie should be able to beat it, but I doubt AM will ever put it around the track. For one, they did zero testing there, while MB have had the One connecting information for year and a half. For two, the Valkyrie has a track mode that lowers the car to just 10mm. That might work on some smooth tracks but definitely not at the Nurburgring. So if they did run the car there, they would probably have to do it in the standard road setting (which is like 85mm or something). The center of gravity would be higher and the downforce would be much worse. So even if the Valkyrie ended up being faster regardless, it wouldn't really show the full potential of the car. That's why I think that if they ever do decide to do a factory lap, it's much more likely to be around Silverstone - where they did a lot of testing - or maybe a high speed track like Spa or Monza that will really make the acceleration and downforce shine. Who knows, though, them doing a lap probably can't be completely ruled out (first they need to make sure the car actually works, though, which they STILL haven't managed ) .

 

[Matski]

I would like to know what it would have done on slicks.

 

[Tourbillon]

I see two other cars that should be able to do a similar fast lap; the Senna and the SF90. But I think they might be a few seconds behind.
The Valkyrie however would smash it. But only if it would be capable of doing the complete lap without issues. Which it probably would not.

Aston Martin have already released a Nurburgring target time for the 2023/2024 production Aston Martin Valhalla. But nothing for the Aston Martin Valkyrie. Seems they've already made their decisions based on those facts.

The Ferrari SF90 is an interesting one, if they are going to achieve something maybe the forthcoming "Versions Speciale" would be more suited.

 

[Bridster]

I would like to know what it would have done on slicks.

Probably 10-15s faster.

I would be equally interested in how quickly an unrestricted GT3 car could lap the track. With minimum fuel and fresh tires. Kinda surprised that nobody ever tried doing that.

 

[leylandi]

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[Moctecus]

During the AMG event at Barcelona last week, a One customer (user "california" on this forum) talked to Maro Engel about the Nordschleife lap. He said that if the track conditions had been better, he could have pushed the lap time under 6:30.

 

[Tourbillon]

he could have pushed the lap time under 6:30.

That seems to be the prevailing consensus. Let's see if it transpires.

 

[Grosser]

Mercedes early on claimed it could beat potentially beat 919 Evo's 5:11. Which was just complete bull shit.

The 919 Evo did in 5:19, what you probably meant is Stefan Bellofs lap in Porsche 956 which is 6:11. It's still 20s off but not that off

 

[WBarnes]

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[Sunny]

The 919 Evo did in 5:19, what you probably meant is Stefan Bellofs lap in Porsche 956 which is 6:11. It's still 20s off but not that off

I didn't mean anything. I was referring to what the then AMG boss said -

"Of course, I saw the lap record run on video and it was impressive," Moers said to Motoring of the 919's record lap of 5:19.55. "Could we beat the Porsche's 'Ring time? We could, probably. It would be close, but I think we could.

Mercedes-AMG Says Project ONE Could Beat Porsche 919 Around Nürburgring

Mercedes says its hypercar could beat the Porsche 919's lap record, but also that they won't try.

www.thedrive.com

 

[Tourbillon]

I didn't mean anything. I was referring to what the then AMG boss said -

Mercedes-AMG Says Project ONE Could Beat Porsche 919 Around Nürburgring

Mercedes says its hypercar could beat the Porsche 919's lap record, but also that they won't try.

www.thedrive.com

I remember Tobias Moers stating that very thing. Elsewhere it certainly raised some eyebrows because we knew it wasn't very likely. At all.

 

[Tourbillon]

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