E-Class [Official] Mercedes-AMG E 63 4MATIC+ and E 63 S 4MATIC+

[martinbo]

The new Panamera Turbo is going to get it's butt kicked by the whole class: RS6, E63 and M5.

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Just ignore it and move back on topic to the glorious new AMG E63.

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[Amat46]

Did y'all see - it's a new twin twin-scroll turbo arrangement. I wonder what that'll do to the current 4.0's exhaust acoustics...

Does scroll turbo chargers affect the acoustics though? Isn't the purpose of scroll turbochargers to optimise the flow and maximise the boost at low and high rpms?

 

[Rainer271]

Night and day the difference:

What a difference. Amazing.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

Night and day the difference:

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[martinbo]

Does scroll turbo chargers affect the acoustics though? Isn't the purpose of scroll turbochargers to optimise the flow and maximise the boost at low and high rpms?

Twin scroll turbochargers absolutely do affect acoustics because they split half of the exhaust pulses into two, separate volutes (a fancy word for turbo input chamber) this separation - for reasons which I can't accurately explain - results in a less tuneful, more monotone exhaust note in comparison. Some engines, depending on how the engineers have tuned the exhaust plumbing for resonance, are better at mitigating this inherent sound "muffling" which twin-scroll turbo'ing brings.

 

[LaArtist]

I knew it had some kind of change to the engine by just listeing to it, it has a different tune.
Still a brutal one though..

When i look at it again today, i find it very attractive, i was not sure yesterday.

It is indeed very badass, and seems to pull like a mother bitch.
Neckbreaking acceleration.. kind of a scary car, im getting old.. cars like these make me nervous

 

[LaArtist]

Dear readers,

Please be advised that the above quote is what's referred to as "LaArtist bait".
Whilst GCF and its staff members do not in any way encourage such content, we wish to inform you that this is a regular occurrence and to pay no heed to it.

Just ignore it and move back on topic to the glorious new AMG E63.

Thanks in advance.

Your friendly mod team

LoL.. he does not know what the Panamera can do, rule of life.:
1 php (porsche horsepower)= 1.52 hp ( regular cars)

550php=836hp ( thats what's needed out of a non porsche to beat a 550hp porsche)

 

[martinbo]

Ok ok - very funny @LaArtist

Let's keep this thread free of UIIC please.

 

[Amat46]

It sounds mega in the videos. They must have done some clever acoustic tuning.

 

[martinbo]

I knew it had some kind of change to the engine by just listeing to it, it has a different tune.

It sounds mega in the videos. They must have done some clever acoustic tuning.

Sounds a bit fartier than previous AMG thunder.

 

[martinbo]

Sinister

Definition 1:

adjective.

1. giving the impression that something harmful or evil is happening or will happen.
   "there was something sinister about that murmuring voice"
   synonyms: menacing, threatening, ominous, forbidding, baleful, frightening, eerie, alarming,disturbing, disquieting, dark, black, suggestive of evil, evil-looking;

Definition 2:

 

[Betty Swollocks]

@Giannis or other mods. Any chance the "OFFICIAL" prefix could be added to the thread? I like these prefixes and when they're not present the threads tend to fade into the background.

And @martinbo or anybody else. How should I categorise the transmission in my database for this car. Is it an "auto"? This is how I describe a traditional automatic gearbox such as the "9-speed 9G-TRONIC auto", or the "8-speed Steptronic auto". Or is it a dual-clutch, as in "7-speed M DCT dual-clutch"?

 

[martinbo]

@Giannis or other mods. Any chance the "OFFICIAL" prefix could be added to the thread? I like these prefixes and when they're not present the threads tend to fade into the background.

Done.

And @martinbo or anybody else. How should I categorise the transmission in my database for this car. Is it an "auto"? This is how I describe a traditional automatic gearbox such as the "9-speed 9G-TRONIC auto", or the "8-speed Steptronic auto". Or is it a dual-clutch, as in "7-speed M DCT dual-clutch"?

It is most certainly not a dual clutch transmission in the specific sense of the definition; a true dual clutch transmission by definition has two superimposed transmission input shafts - each with its own clutch. Each clutch alternately engages with the engine flywheel and its input shaft drives a dedicated set of output ratios - typically in odd and even gear ratio separation like so:

Clutch and input shaft 1: Gears 1, 3, 5, 7
Clutch and input shaft 2: Gears 2, 4, 6

The clutches interact and swap drive from one input shaft to the other in a pre-selected sequence when accelerating and decelerating. This is the primary reason for dual-clutchers shifting so quickly.

The AMG Speedshift MCT range of transmissions is a conventional (planetary geared) automatic transmission except for the fact that it makes use of a wet start up clutch pack to engage with the engine flywheel rather than the traditional torque converter coupling (like that in the ZF8HP). The reason for this is to achieve a more direct connection (the fluid coupling's characteristics and need for torque converter "lock-up" are negated) between the engine and the transmission for improved response.

 

[mehdi tavakol]

amazing

 

[NTT]

Love the grille

 

[Mick Briesgau]

^ in Obsidian black "cruising" on the Autobahn at 300 km/h... wannahave factor of this car growing and growing. Sorry guys, I'm a bit overwhelmed by this car, can't think straight, on the verge of pure enthusiasm

 

[Amat46]

^^ absolutely the car keeps growing on me

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Done.

Thanks.

It is most certainly not a dual clutch transmission in the specific sense of the definition; a true dual clutch transmission by definition has two superimposed transmission input shafts - each with its own clutch. Each clutch alternately engages with the engine flywheel and its input shaft drives a dedicated set of output ratios - typically in odd and even gear ratio separation like so:

Clutch and input shaft 1: Gears 1, 3, 5, 7
Clutch and input shaft 2: Gears 2, 4, 6

The clutches interact and swap drive from one input shaft to the other in a pre-selected sequence when accelerating and decelerating. This is the primary reason for dual-clutchers shifting so quickly.

The AMG Speedshift MCT range of transmissions is a conventional (planetary geared) automatic transmission except for the fact that it makes use of a wet start up clutch pack to engage with the engine flywheel rather than the traditional torque converter coupling (like that in the ZF8HP). The reason for this is to achieve a more direct connection (the fluid coupling's characteristics and need for torque converter "lock-up" are negated) between the engine and the transmission for improved response.

Cheers for the info. So, I'll put it down as "9-speed AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT auto".

 

[Zafiro]

^^ absolutely the car keeps growing on me

Not love at first sight?? shame on you

 

[Zafiro]

^ in Obsidian black "cruising" on the Autobahn at 300 km/h... wannahave factor of this car growing and growing. Sorry guys, I'm a bit overwhelmed by this car, can't think straight, on the verge of pure enthusiasm

Going from autobahn crusier style to speed demon style...it suits you very well Mick..and giving the middle finger to slower traffic when doing 300km/h