The McLaren Elva is a limited-production mid-engine sports car manufactured by McLaren Automotive. The car is the fifth in the McLaren Ultimate Series, after the F1, the P1, Senna, and the Speedtail. The open-top sports car is inspired by the open top race cars developed by Bruce McLaren in the 1960s.
Elva was a small British sports/racing car manufacturer in the 60's. There was some tie-up with Mclaren at some point (Can-Am racers I think), it could be because of this.
.. it could also be something else entirely.
edit:
This kind of thing...
Centurion
Apex Apex Predator
Unfortunately yes. The ramping release of supercars, limited editions and one-offs is the reason why the value of used supercars is collapsing.
There are consumers who ordered a Pista over a year ago and before receiving it, Ferrari have launched the F8(Pista engine), F8 Spider, SP90, SP1, SP2 and 812 GTS.
Lamborghini is producing so many SVJs that some consumers are cancelling their orders because they can buy a delivery mileage one for less than list price.
This would be the flip-side of the attention economy I suppose. The manufacturers need to remain in focus, and I guess this is one way of doing it in todays feed scrolling world. Do you think it's the number of different models being produced that's too high causing the value to drop, or is it that the limited runs themselves are still too big?
Centurion
Apex Apex Predator
Both the number of different models and one-offs have contributed to the bubble which is now bursting.
To give context to my reply the financial crisis of 2007 was a turning point for investments. The world learned that speculative financial instruments and products are risky. Since then, numerous large banks have started scaled down or close their divisions that trade high risk and speculative financial products.
New investors and those who got their hands burnt realised that investing in products that you don't fully understand or can't even see or touch is a bad idea.
Enter property and cars. Both are investments but have a utility value. If a corporation which you hold shares in goes bankrupt you are left with nothing. If your Alfa 8 lose 1/4 of its value, it's still car that you can drive, touch, see or liquidate. After all, its value it unlikely to go to zero. Thus the demand for cars as investments grew.
Parallel with this, wealthy Chinese, middle eastern and Russians increased their spend on luxury goods. As a result car manufacturers increased their production. The Hurecan is the best selling Lamborghini ever and has smashed Gallardo production figures. To buy a Hurecan on finance, all you need is a £15k deposit and the means to pay £1,000.
The cars I consider most iconic of this bubble are
Lamborghini Reventon: Demonstrated that consumers are willing to pay 1.5-3x for a reskinned car.
Porsche 911R: The bubble has hit the peak as 911R are being resold for 3-4 times list price.
Porsche Guy
Kraftkurve King
Best looking McLaren since the P1 and I'm all about that visceral driving experience.
That being said, with 815hp I don't think it would be much fun to drive once you're over the initial thrill of that insane power to weight. Just too dam fast to drive on the road.
This car is more a statement piece than anything else, like most supercars.
That being said, with 815hp I don't think it would be much fun to drive once you're over the initial thrill of that insane power to weight. Just too dam fast to drive on the road.
This car is more a statement piece than anything else, like most supercars.
Centurion
Apex Apex Predator
They absolutely nailed the front end design which which makes the nose of the Grand Tourer look bulky as the front half of a Nike Air Force One.
hoffmeister_fan
Kraftwagen König
Looks better than I had thought it'd look like based on teasers.
Giannis
Staff member
I've lost count of the special editions car makers like Lamborghini and Bugatti are producing. It's like these manufacturers put out a special edition when they need a quick injection of cash.
empower77
Kraftkurve King
I understand that McLaren is diversifying it’s portfolio to accommodate a lot of different variants, but how is it addressing its quality/ reliability? How do you expect customers to pay top $ when your cars seem to spontaneously combust?
also to all that are complaining about the saturation of the market with different variants; understand that where there is a demand, they will supply; also that manufacturing processes have become so dynamic that companies can create these one offs that previously were the cache of coach builders
also to all that are complaining about the saturation of the market with different variants; understand that where there is a demand, they will supply; also that manufacturing processes have become so dynamic that companies can create these one offs that previously were the cache of coach builders
Centurion
Apex Apex Predator
Is reliability across the portfolio still very bad?
empower77
Kraftkurve King
From everything I have heard and seen. That’s why they are very cheap on the second hand market. A 2017 570S is about $150K at a dealership
drifter1
Tarmac Traveler
Sounds like you're talking from experience.
bmwz4coupe
Subscriber
Another "new" model from McLaren....
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