Official Thread [Official] Lotus Electric Hypercar now confirmed

[tristatez28lt1]

Man that is amazing work @Revvd

 

[Revvd]

We finally have a weight figure (1,535 kg). That sadly makes the lap time seem less impressive compared to when I thought it was more like 1,700 kg.

It's just weird that Lotus representatives are not consistent in reporting on the downforce figures...
Simon Lane (Director of Lotus Advanced Performance department)

Louis Kerr, Chief Engineer

"We have increased the downforce around three times more than the road car. So a little over 4,000 kg at Vmax condition for this car. We are intentionally speed limited to manage the tires on the downforce around here at 350 kph."

It's not a massive difference, but still... it's a bit annoying.

 

[Bridster]

Honestly, based on the cornering speeds and acceleration, both the weight and downforce claims are very suspicious.

If their claims were true, it would mean the car had a downforce to weight ratio roughly 50% greater than that of a GT3 car. But instead, their cornering speeds are about 6% slower than a GT3 car.

Also, looking at acceleration, 100-200km/h is only about 3-3.2s. Which is pretty fast, but the 919 Evo (which is also AWD and on slicks), for example, can do it in 2s. Which really makes no sense considering the Evija X is supposed to have a power to weight ratio of 1310PS/t, while the 919 Evo is about 1290PS/t. Even if their claimed weight was dry (and I am not even sure how big of a difference that makes in an EV), that still wouldn't explain how the car is 50% slower. It even has a shorter gearing, maxing out at 350, instead of the 370 for the 919. Lastly, let's not forget that EVs have much smaller drivetrain losses, so that 2011PS would be more like 2100PS if we are comparing it to the 919, which is majority ICE. In fact, 100-200km/h in 3s is about the same as the Rimac Nevera, which should have 170PS less and weigh 765kg more. What's up with that?

Then again, manufacturers making dubious claims because nobody can ever know or check? What else is new?

 

[Bucketslash11]

Honestly, based on the cornering speeds and acceleration, both the weight and downforce claims are very suspicious.

If their claims were true, it would mean the car had a downforce to weight ratio roughly 50% greater than that of a GT3 car. But instead, their cornering speeds are about 6% slower than a GT3 car.

Also, looking at acceleration, 100-200km/h is only about 3-3.2s. Which is pretty fast, but the 919 Evo (which is also AWD and on slicks), for example, can do it in 2s. Which really makes no sense considering the Evija X is supposed to have a power to weight ratio of 1310PS/t, while the 919 Evo is about 1290PS/t. Even if their claimed weight was dry (and I am not even sure how big of a difference that makes in an EV), that still wouldn't explain how the car is 50% slower. It even has a shorter gearing, maxing out at 350, instead of the 370 for the 919. Lastly, let's not forget that EVs have much smaller drivetrain losses, so that 2011PS would be more like 2100PS if we are comparing it to the 919, which is majority ICE. In fact, 100-200km/h in 3s is about the same as the Rimac Nevera, which should have 170PS less and weigh 765kg more. What's up with that?

Then again, manufacturers making dubious claims because nobody can ever know or check? What else is new?

Lotus also put the battery in a more central stack to have the same handling characteristics of an ICE car, but it doesn't seem to be paying off here compared to an ICE car

 

[Revvd]

Yeah, it's a strange one. How is it underperforming so badly? It should be flying through those bends. Could higher CoG have this much impact? Perhaps they had to compromise cornering speeds to protect the tires from that ludicrous amount of downforce. Can't help but imagine the car would be faster, had it been more balanced as a package.

It's frustrating how much info we don't know: DRS activation details, what kind of slicks they used, how much brake regen did they get, state of the battery pack... Did they remove bunch of cells from it to carry bare minimum needed to complete a single lap? And did this affect the power level?

Meanwhile, Lotus didn't give us as much as a press release. You'd think if they had high hopes for the car, they'd invite actual journalists to observe and report on the event. If there were any, you'd see the articles dropping right now. There's none.
We're told these factory Nordschleife hot laps are a very costly affair. So if you spend the money on a stunt like this, then where's the content to put eyeballs on Lotus? Why not milk it for marketing purposes and justify the expenses?
All we got was JWW, who will always ever be impressed with what he's being fed. He couldn't even bring up why the car had to be towed back to pits that one time.

 

[bmwz4coupe]

If they tried it with Cup 2 R tyres (which AMG One and the other normally use, this tyre is faster than Trofeo R), I would guess around 6:35-6:40.
The road car is heavier (don’t know how much) and doesn’t have all the aero, so as Bridster says it would maybe struggle to get under 7 min. I think it should go under 7 min, but not by much. Not impressive for a 2000 ps hypercar.

Rimac Nevera, which is also a 2000 ps EV lapped the ring in 7:05 with Cup 2 R tyres. The Nevera weigh 2300 kg I believe, the Evija considerable less, 1700 kg (?). So Evija should manage well under 7, maybe 7:50?

 

[Tourbillon]

Rimac Nevera, which is also a 2000 ps EV lapped the ring in 7:05 with Cup 2 R tyres. The Nevera weigh 2300 kg I believe, the Evija considerable less, 1700 kg (?). So Evija should manage well under 7, maybe 7:50?

No.

Jenson Button to debut his Lotus Evija hypercar at ‘The Quail, A Motorsports Gathering’ - Lotus Cars Media Site

media.lotuscars.com

"1,887 kg."

Production specifications. Accordingly to Lotus.

 

[Mistral]

Bugatti has predicted that the Bolide will lap the Nürburgring Nordschleife in less than 6 minutes and 15 seconds. But the Evija X has significantly more power and downforce than the Bolide, so I'm curious how fast the Bolide can actually be?

 

[A.P.]

Bugatti has predicted that the Bolide will lap the Nürburgring Nordschleife in less than 6 minutes and 15 seconds. But the Evija X has significantly more power and downforce than the Bolide, so I'm curious how fast the Bolide can actually be?

Big claims, no proof... Just like Evija X.

 

[Tourbillon]

Big claims, no proof... Just like Evija X.

No, the X has been timed and verified. Sad to say it the Bolide currently is a garage piece.

 

[Bucketslash11]

Bugatti has predicted that the Bolide will lap the Nürburgring Nordschleife in less than 6 minutes and 15 seconds. But the Evija X has significantly more power and downforce than the Bolide, so I'm curious how fast the Bolide can actually be?

hitchens's razor, any claim without proof can be dismissed without evidence

 

[A.P.]

Acceleration on a runway included.

Lotus Cars on Instagram: "Evija, ripping up the runway. Evija leaving its mark on the runway at its first outing at Supercar Fest by officially smashing the previous record of 204 mph (328 km/h) with a new top speed of 214 mph (344 km/h) from a sta

18K likes, 151 comments - lotuscars on May 24, 2024: "Evija, ripping up the runway. Evija leaving its mark on the runway at its first outing at Supercar Fest by officially smashing the previous record of 204 mph (328 km/h) with a new top speed of 214 mph (344 km/h) from a standing start...

www.instagram.com

 

[Tourbillon]

Acceleration on a runway included.

Your damn right. It's a Hypercar after all!

 

[Tourbillon]

100- 200MPH through framer was quick!

 

[Tourbillon]

 

[martinbo]

I hate windscreen wipers in the upright position! Arrgh.

 

[Tourbillon]

I hate windscreen wipers in the upright position! Arrgh.

Just buy a wrench from Halfords. It's only one nut between you and hypercar heaven.

 

[martinbo]

Just buy a wrench from Halfords. It's only one nut between you and hypercar heaven.

On a 2 million quid hypercar… no thanks.

 

[Tourbillon]

On a 2 million quid hypercar… no thanks.

£2 Million? I've heard into the £3's maybe taxes on top.

I believe from memory they're left hand drive only which is far more serious. Like the Mclaren P1 and all the Bugatti's thus far.

 

[RacingLover]

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