Official Thread [Official] Lotus Electric Hypercar now confirmed

[WBarnes]

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What surprises me is that the Battista is so much slower than the Nevera given how they're nearly the same underneath.

 

[Revvd]

What surprises me is that the Battista is so much slower than the Nevera given how they're nearly the same underneath.

Rimac didn't let Pininfarina play with their custom BIOS profile with overclocked settings

 

[A.P.]

There is something common between these British brands...

https://www.motor1.com/news/731781/lotus-financial-results-first-half-2024/

 

[Revvd]

Collection of Evija aero setups from various public sightings and track events:
(images of early prototypes with low wing or no wing at all not included)

2020 Goodwood Circuit - digi camo JSP livery (dynamic debut)

• open diffuser (flap missing)
• high wing angle

2021 FoS - gold and black two-tone

• open diffuser (flap missing)
• high wing angle

2022 FoS - acid green

• diffuser somewhere between middle position and closed
• low wing angle

2023 FoS - blue w/ gold accents

• open diffuser
• low wing angle

2023 Quail - blue w/ gold accents

• open diffuser
• low wing angle

2024 Goodwood Super Sunday - red

• diffuser in middle position
• low wing angle
• license plates present

2023 Nürburgring - red

• closed diffuser
• low wing angle
• license plates present

2024 FoS - acid green to black fade

• open diffuser
• low wing angle

2024 Algarve, Portimao - red

• diffuser in middle position
• low wing angle

2024 Supercar Fest - red

• diffuser in middle position
• low wing angle
• shown both with and without license plates

2024 Nürburgring - red

• diffuser in middle position
• low wing angle
• license plates present

2024 Nürburgring Nordschleife - red

• diffuser in middle position
• low wing angle
• license plates present

2024 Hockenheimring - blue w/ gold accents

• diffuser in middle position
• low wing angle

2024 Spain - gold and black two tone

• diffuser in middle position
• low wing angle

There's three takeaway points I want to highlight:

1. Lotus never uses the rear wing in high angle of attack (the very early prototypes are the exception). Maybe they leave that strictly for the airbrake... who knows.
   I would think there's nothing stopping them from unleashing all the downforce potential for a short run at FoS, where it couldn't possibly overload the tires at those speeds. But for some reason they just don't use it.
   
   
2. I've yet to see the aero elements moving, when the car is in motion.
   They have active aero, but they always use fixed aero modes. What's up with that?
   
   
3. The rear license plate obstructs top half of the diffuser.
   But they still don't try to compensate with the wing.
   The car isn't the downforce monster they claim it to be. At least not when it's road legal. It's just false advertising, if you ask me.

Lastly, the car could actually generate 1,000 kg of downforce at 350 kph and it'd be well within the permissible tire load. This is assuming the 1,887 kg is arbitrary dry weight that is 150 kg less than actual curb weight (that's what Rimac used to quote for Nevera).

And yes, I know they say it's 1,850 kg nowadays, I just went with the less optimistic claim.
To be honest, I don't really believe Evija is 260+ kg lighter then Nevera, so this is all just very theoretical exercise anyway.

 

[Bridster]

Fun fact: It's now been 2 years since Lotus claimed that the car had "started production".

Fun fact #2: If it's not delivered this year, then the gap between the original planned delivery and its actual delivery will have been (at least) 5 years - the same gap as the much delayed Valkyrie. (Yes, this car was originally supposed to be ready by 2020.)

 

[martinbo]

Lots of vaporware around these days.

 

[bmwz4coupe]

Fun fact: It's now been 2 years since Lotus claimed that the car had "started production".

Fun fact #2: If it's not delivered this year, then the gap between the original planned delivery and its actual delivery will have been (at least) 5 years - the same gap as the much delayed Valkyrie. (Yes, this car was originally supposed to be ready by 2020.)

I thougt they had delivered some. Didn’t Button receive his, or wasn’t this a production spec?

 

[Bridster]

I thougt they had delivered some. Didn’t Button receive his, or wasn’t this a production spec?

No, just a show delivery. Button said the would be able to take ownership of it "in a few months". That was in August 2023. Of course, no delivery happened, and even if it did, employees don't count.

 

[bmwz4coupe]

Finally….

Lotus is finally delivering its £2.4m Evija hypercar after four years | Autocar

Development of £2.4m 2011bhp electric hypercar was halted by pandemic; customer hand-overs have begun

www.autocar.co.uk

 

[A.P.]

Finally….

When they start poping up on owner's Instagram or YouTube accounts, then I will start believing that customers have started to recieve them.

 

[Revvd]

Finally….

Still with the covid excuses...
Smells like a damage control in light of non-existent customer demand.

 

[Revvd]

Good news! Lotus released the owner's handbook for Evija.

Evija Handbook | Lotus Cars United Kingdom

Your new Lotus Evija is built in the true tradition of Lotus sports cars; high performance with precision handling. Understand more about your vehicle with the Lotus Evija handbook.

www.lotuscars.com

I apologize for doubting them. I really thought the car would end up weighing slightly over two tons. Somehow they managed 1,897 kg. Good job, Lotus!

Other things I noticed:

• The active aero section confirms that to engage Track mode one has to first remove the entire rear license plate holder (making the car not road legal).
• The wing apparently only extends up and down... No tilting or air brake functionality is mentioned. And DRS only adjusts the diffuser flap angle.
  This makes their original downforce claim even more ridiculous now. Unless DRS automatically stalls diffuser at high speed (which I would hope they would include in the handbook, if this was the case), I can't imagine this car making more than 500 kg of downforce at 250 kph.
• High voltage battery capacity: 90.8 kWh - gross / 85.5 kWh - net.
• Evija's Trofeo R tires are bespoke and bare "LTS" OE mark.

 

[A.P.]

Here I was hoping it would at least 100 kg lighter than Nevera...

 

[Bucketslash11]

Good news! Lotus released the owner's handbook for Evija.

Evija Handbook | Lotus Cars United Kingdom

Your new Lotus Evija is built in the true tradition of Lotus sports cars; high performance with precision handling. Understand more about your vehicle with the Lotus Evija handbook.

www.lotuscars.com

I apologize for doubting them. I really thought the car would end up weighing slightly over two tons. Somehow they managed 1,897 kg. Good job, Lotus!

Other things I noticed:

• The active aero section confirms that to engage Track mode one has to first remove the entire rear license plate holder (making the car not road legal).
• The wing apparently only extends up and down... No tilting or air brake functionality is mentioned. And DRS only adjusts the diffuser flap angle.
  This makes their original downforce claim even more ridiculous now. Unless DRS automatically stalls diffuser at high speed (which I would hope they would include in the handbook, if this was the case), I can't imagine this car making more than 500 kg of downforce at 250 kph.
• High voltage battery capacity: 90.8 kWh - gross / 85.5 kWh - net.
• Evija's Trofeo R tires are bespoke and bare "LTS" OE mark.

why place the license plate in the diffuser flow when they can use the space above the diffuser?

 

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[tristatez28lt1]

Is this car ever going to be in customer hands? I've heard that they barely have orders - around 15 only...

 

[Revvd]

It's so pretty, tho! And to those few owners, it might be worth it just for the rarity factor alone.

 

[Bucketslash11]

so judging from the review:

• looks amazing, especially in that iridescent paint
• handles in a familiar way because of battery placement
• brake feel (no regen)
• performance
• hydraulic power steering (seriously why haven't anyone done this before? you know it works)

negatives:

• undertyred on the front (noticed mostly under braking)
• less engaging than an ICE car
• weight is still an issue in corners (Valkyrie comparison)

would i buy one if i could: fence-sitting, it certainly has some good aspects to it but i would buy several ICE cars for my dream garage before this would be considered

(did they suffer a power-steering leak? because that white absorbent looked pretty fresh)

 

[A.P.]

It is a pure dissapointment. Last thing Lotus needed. From its poor range, to being very late, to to being overweight. Only redeeming part is the looks.

At the end it seems like Rimac with Nevera is the winner of EV hypercars.

 

[bmwz4coupe]

It is a pure dissapointment. Last thing Lotus needed. From its poor range, to being very late, to to being overweight. Only redeeming part is the looks.

At the end it seems like Rimac with Nevera is the winner of EV hypercars.

I would never buy the Nevera just because of it’s boring design. I could have bought the Evija just because of it’s gorgous design.