Revuelto [Official] Lamborghini Revuelto

[RacingLover]

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[Bridster]

Sadly it's what we've expected. The Revuelto is keeping up, but is slower than the SF90. Just too heavy. Not really sure why they couldn't get another 50PS from the battery or something. I said right from the beginning that they'll need at least 1100PS to beat the Ferrari. Now the performance is ok, but it should be better considerng it's 4 years newer.

At least it sounds the best.

 

[Revvd]

I hope carwow puts it on scales. They are curious enough to do it.
Plus, they did it in the past with Aventador SVJ.

Edit: Personally, I don't think this flip flop wrap does the car justice. The original green paint seems like a better fit.

 

[Jo_Sta7]

I said all along it’ll be slower than the SF90. And the SF90 update is due to be shown next year with production in ‘26. I do think that particular Revuelto looked great though. But something about its styling is forgettable. Like it was designed by AI or something. Striking but forgettable.

And the Porsche 918 performed amazing. The driver weighed 100 pounds more than the other two.

 

[Revvd]

I said all along it’ll be slower than the SF90. And the SF90 update is due to be shown next year with production in ‘26. I do think that particular Revuelto looked great though. But something about its styling is forgettable. Like it was designed by AI or something. Striking but forgettable.

And the Porsche 918 performed amazing. The driver weighed 100 pounds more than the other two.

Not being the top performer in the segment while offering much improved practicality seems like a good enough compromise. You saw the owner being happy despite the loss, in that other video.

I know what you mean. I like it too, but I think it lacks the purity of the original Aventador. Guess that's what happens when you're trying to one-up your limited editions in visual impact.

 

[Matski]

But something about its styling is forgettable. Like it was designed by AI or something. Striking but forgettable.

To me it looks more like something a forgettable boutique brand would try and sell 5 of for 2 million quid, show them off at Goodwood a couple of times, then fade into obscurity having delivered possibly all, or none, of their planned production... it just has that vibe about it for me.

 

[kiki voinea]

And the Porsche 918 performed amazing. The driver weighed 100 pounds more than the other two.

Fun fact , regarding Porsche

In 87 when 959 was released , it was , adjusted for inflation , as much as the Revuelto is today.

600k

And 959 was considered pretty expensive , but mind blowing for it's tech and performance ( fastest car in the world at the time )

Is Revuelto near that "pride" ?

 

[Centurion]

Sadly it's what we've expected. The Revuelto is keeping up, but is slower than the SF90. Just too heavy. Not really sure why they couldn't get another 50PS from the battery or something. I said right from the beginning that they'll need at least 1100PS to beat the Ferrari. Now the performance is ok, but it should be better considerng it's 4 years newer.

At least it sounds the best.

Lamborghini didn't make it too powerful on purpose. They want to milk owners for an S, SV and SVJ. Some Lamborghini loyalists traded up to all.

This car likely has a 10-12 year roadmap that will also include reskinned versions for $1-2.5m to fill the void between the base Revuelto and the Chiron successor.

 

[Rolf]

This Revuelto is brand new out of the box, surely the powertrain needs to be "Run In" for a few thousand KM's then it would be probably performing at its peak. It would be interesting to see how many KM on the clock the SF90 has.

 

[DJ0nes]

Looks like a 1006652 version of the previous model. But still good.

Well, you gotta understand that in my opinion, Lamborghini have already reached the pinnacle of design. Trying to go further from here is a serious risk of failure.

 

[Gianclaudio]

Is just me, or the SF90's transmission is just quicker to change gears than the other two? At least judging from the sound: almost seamless and not a tiny delay like the Lambo and Porsche

 

[Revvd]

This Revuelto is brand new out of the box, surely the powertrain needs to be "Run In" for a few thousand KM's then it would be probably performing at its peak. It would be interesting to see how many KM on the clock the SF90 has.

Don't they break in the engines at the factory? I feel like it'd be foolish to rely on notoriously rev happy Lambo owners for having a sense of mechanical sympathy.

Lamborghini didn't make it too powerful on purpose. They want to milk owners for an S, SV and SVJ. Some Lamborghini loyalists traded up to all.

This car likely has a 10-12 year roadmap that will also include reskinned versions for $1-2.5m to fill the void between the base Revuelto and the Chiron successor.

But how much room for improvement is there? I fear that Lamborghini has backed itself into a corner with this hybrid platform. On the electric side of things, they are limited by how small the battery is (half the capacity of the SF90 unit), which in turn is limited by the width of the center tunnel.
I can't imagine them upping the electric assistance at all, without doing major changes to the chassis. And mind you, the car is already f#cking heavy as is, without having a large battery.

And then if you look at the ICE, they'd have to squeeze more power out of (essentially) the same engine block from the Aventador model line. Which, for all we know, could have been living at the far end of its potential for a while already. Not an easy task. Unless they have a new engine up in their sleeve.

LP 700	107 PS/L	100%
LP 750 SV	115 PS/L	107%
LP 770 SVJ	118 PS/L	110%
LP 780 Ultimae	120 PS/L	111%
Revuelto (825 PS)	127 PS/L	118%
Revuelto SV? (875 PS ?)	135 PS/L	125%

Say the SV variant adds some 50 PS over standard Revuelto. Perhaps that could give it a tiny edge vs SF90 in straight line performance. But, as @Jo_Sta7 already mentioned, SF90 is old news and Ferrari is about to up the ante with the new generation. And they have multiple paths to upgrade to pick from without similar bottlenecks as Lamborghini.
I could picture them turning up the turbo boost, providing the V8 with as much power as the V12 on the standard Revuelto. Although they will likely have also improved upon the electric assistance at the same time.

We might have to accept that Lamborghini just isn't competitive with the true performance offerings in this segment. Of course, the baby Lambo might be a different story. But as for the flagship model, it'll just be the boomer choice (no offense intended) from now on - full of character, comfy, practical. I can't hate on that.

 

[Centurion]

Don't they break in the engines at the factory? I feel like it'd be foolish to rely on notoriously rev happy Lambo owners for having a sense of mechanical sympathy.


But how much room for improvement is there? I fear that Lamborghini has backed itself into a corner with this hybrid platform. On the electric side of things, they are limited by how small the battery is (half the capacity of the SF90 unit), which in turn is limited by the width of the center tunnel.
I can't imagine them upping the electric assistance at all, without doing major changes to the chassis. And mind you, the car is already f#cking heavy as is, without having a large battery.

And then if you look at the ICE, they'd have to squeeze more power out of (essentially) the same engine block from the Aventador model line. Which, for all we know, could have been living at the far end of its potential for a while already. Not an easy task. Unless they have a new engine up in their sleeve.

LP 700	107 PS/L	100%
LP 750 SV	115 PS/L	107%
LP 770 SVJ	118 PS/L	110%
LP 780 Ultimae	120 PS/L	111%
Revuelto (825 PS)	127 PS/L	118%
Revuelto SV? (875 PS ?)	135 PS/L	125%

Say the SV variant adds some 50 PS over standard Revuelto. Perhaps that could give it a tiny edge vs SF90 in straight line performance. But, as @Jo_Sta7 already mentioned, SF90 is old news and Ferrari is about to up the ante with the new generation. And they have multiple paths to upgrade to pick from without similar bottlenecks as Lamborghini.
I could picture them turning up the turbo boost, providing the V8 with as much power as the V12 on the standard Revuelto. Although they will likely have also improved upon the electric assistance at the same time.

We might have to accept that Lamborghini just isn't competitive with the true performance offerings in this segment. Of course, the baby Lambo might be a different story. But as for the flagship model, it'll just be the boomer choice (no offense intended) from now on - full of character, comfy, practical. I can't hate on that.

I agree that the V12 engine unlikely has large headroom for a 20% bump in power over the next 5-10. However I think battery energy density and efficiency of electric motors will improve my 200-300x over the next 10 years. The Revuelto's battery and electric drivetrains are probably based an architectures that were signed-off and locked 3 years ago. As a result it's dated compared with whatever is currently in R&D or what what VAG have incorporated in the Chiron successor.

Lamborghini can also "cheat" performance figures by adding 10-20sec boost modes to the S and SV variants.

 

[A.P.]

Certainly expected slightly more from the Revuelto, but it seems like it got dragged down by those extra 200 kg and no turbos.

I wonder about something:
Don't modern, fancy VAG Group cars have a power limit when not fully run in? (I remember a GM car, like a C8 Z06 had something like that where you can't rev to max for certain amount of km, it unlocks full performance gradually.)

Could this have been the case? I highly doubt it will make a big difference, just probably match SF90 performance better.)

Doesn't help it has been delayed multiple times. Ideally it should have been in customer's hands by 2022. Hope they got the reliability sorted by now, because that's what Ferrari and McLaren were struggling with when they delivered first batches of SF90/296 and Artura.

 

[Centurion]

Certainly expected slightly more from the Revuelto, but it seems like it got dragged down by those extra 200 kg and no turbos.

Fair point. As far as acceleration is concerned we have reached a point of diminishing returns. A Model S plaid is neck and neck with an SF90 at a 3rd of the price.

 

[kiki voinea]

Certainly expected slightly more from the Revuelto, but it seems like it got dragged down by those extra 200 kg and no turbos.

We are almost at the limit of what we can extract from any ICE car with normal fuel.

Not even F1 cars can't find more than 50% thermal efficiency.

We are almost at the same value in the last 20years ( around 44% ) , due to regulations.

I don't think we will see >1000-1500hp cars in the future without any EV aid.

ICE has peaked...

 

[Rolf]

We are almost at the limit of what we can extract from any ICE car with normal fuel.

Not even F1 cars can't find more than 50% thermal efficiency.

We are almost at the same value in the last 20years ( around 44% ) , due to regulations.

I don't think we will see >1000-1500hp cars in the future without any EV aid.

ICE has peaked...

There are ICE Top Fuel Dragsters with over 4000HP so I don't think ICE have reached their peak., but in order to keep emissions lower they will add more EV aids so there is at least 15 to 30km of EV range.

 

[Matski]

There are ICE Top Fuel Dragsters with over 4000HP so I don't think ICE have reached their peak.,

Top fuel burn Nitro-methane, they are well over 10,000hp. Pro Stock burn gasoline, but they're less than 2000hp. Methanol burning Top alcohol classes are around 4000hp.

It's really regulations that limit what we can do with ICE, and if you've ever had a face full of Nitro-methane exhaust, you wouldn't want that sh!t in street cars.. it's like sticking your finger up your nose after you've been slicing Carolina Reapers.

 

[Revvd]

As a result it's dated compared with whatever is currently in R&D or what what VAG have incorporated in the Chiron successor.

That makes me even more hyped about the Bugatti unveiling.

 

[m-ch]

Don't they break in the engines at the factory? I feel like it'd be foolish to rely on notoriously rev happy Lambo owners for having a sense of mechanical sympathy.


But how much room for improvement is there? I fear that Lamborghini has backed itself into a corner with this hybrid platform. On the electric side of things, they are limited by how small the battery is (half the capacity of the SF90 unit), which in turn is limited by the width of the center tunnel.
I can't imagine them upping the electric assistance at all, without doing major changes to the chassis. And mind you, the car is already f#cking heavy as is, without having a large battery.

And then if you look at the ICE, they'd have to squeeze more power out of (essentially) the same engine block from the Aventador model line. Which, for all we know, could have been living at the far end of its potential for a while already. Not an easy task. Unless they have a new engine up in their sleeve.

LP 700	107 PS/L	100%
LP 750 SV	115 PS/L	107%
LP 770 SVJ	118 PS/L	110%
LP 780 Ultimae	120 PS/L	111%
Revuelto (825 PS)	127 PS/L	118%
Revuelto SV? (875 PS ?)	135 PS/L	125%

Say the SV variant adds some 50 PS over standard Revuelto. Perhaps that could give it a tiny edge vs SF90 in straight line performance. But, as @Jo_Sta7 already mentioned, SF90 is old news and Ferrari is about to up the ante with the new generation. And they have multiple paths to upgrade to pick from without similar bottlenecks as Lamborghini.
I could picture them turning up the turbo boost, providing the V8 with as much power as the V12 on the standard Revuelto. Although they will likely have also improved upon the electric assistance at the same time.

We might have to accept that Lamborghini just isn't competitive with the true performance offerings in this segment. Of course, the baby Lambo might be a different story. But as for the flagship model, it'll just be the boomer choice (no offense intended) from now on - full of character, comfy, practical. I can't hate on that.

Well said, and if somebody is watching under the curve what happens, sees that a V8 biturbo has longuer more power available then the highly reving v12 of the lambo, wich is just on peakpower for a short period superieur.

and not to forget mostly normal aspirated v12 (lambo or Ferrari) are more underrated than overrated… a v8 biturbo has per se most likel not less power than quatod.
i am waiting for my sf90xx, while on paper just a little bit more power than the standard Sf90, we can expect more of a difference in real world..
There is just more in it to ajust than on the NA V12..
So i am pretty sur the next limited revuelto will have in real almost the same datas than the standart revuelto.
Also Lamborghini never gave a exact 0-200kmh figure, just „under 7secs“ never understand why you cant quote an exact figuer, could be to avoid bad customer feedback