XE [Official] Jaguar XE sedan

[SCOTT27]

I had expected to see an SVR by now.
You would have thought Jaguar would have came out with a rival for the M3 and C63 by now.

 

[KiwiRob]

Interesting that they’re still investing heavily into the older model instead of going all out on a new gen with electrification.

They started building them in april 2015, it’s hardly old.

 

[Serpens]

At one point this car was rumored to be getting a fairly significant interior upgrade. I guess they tossed that out due to ROI numbers.

 

[sako97]

Knowing JLR I expect no new engines.

 

[SCOTT27]

Knowing JLR I expect no new engines.

Maybe SVR V8?

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

wasn't there chatter of an inline-6 engine being developed on the Ingenium architecture, or has that fallen by the wayside in order to focus on electrification? And if it has been shelved, then what are they going to power future Landies/Rangies?

 

[Merc1]

This is a hopelessly cheap and lacking car to begin with. It's so cheap inside and out and really doesn't offer anything over the competition.

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[Centurion]

I had expected to see an SVR by now.
You would have thought Jaguar would have came out with a rival for the M3 and C63 by now.

Good point. An SVR is notably absent. The V8 might be too large for the engine bay.

 

[martinbo]

Ugh. Another ramshackle non-starter from JLR. If it wasn't for the ZF transmission doing the dirty work between the flywheel and final drive, I doubt it would sell at all.
So, the 3.0 V6 XE S is no longer available in the UK - it is still on the SA spec list - and it's all down to the 4 pot DisIngenium engines to take on the Teutonic trio. It's amazing that Jaguar thought this car would be competitive.
Even the outgoing F30 [in pre-LCI form at that] is still a superior overall ownership prospect - and yes, to drive too - over this bobcat dressed up as a jaguar. I see very few XEs on the road but when I do I go - you either work for the dealer or you're just nuts.

 

[klier]

Good point. An SVR is notably absent. The V8 might be too large for the engine bay.

More like no sane person in this world is going to buy one.

Jaguar is dead but they don't know it yet themselves. Just a matter of time.

 

[KiwiRob]

Good point. An SVR is notably absent. The V8 might be too large for the engine bay.

XE with a V8, looks like it fits to me.

 

[Serpens]

XE with a V8, looks like it fits to me.

The V6 block is basically the same size. Jag, in a fit of “creative” engineering, basically plugged the extra cylinder holes when making the V6 from the V8. This is dramatically oversimplified, but you get the idea.

 

[Centurion]

More like no sane person in this world is going to buy one.

Jaguar is dead but they don't know it yet themselves. Just a matter of time.

Jaguar sedans are under performing. It won't be long before their SUVs account for a majority of the sales.

 

[tristatez28lt1]

The 5L SC engine will be replaced very soon. Thinking that the XE V8, if it comes, will come at the end of the facelift lifecycle.

 

[Serpens]

Looks like I was right after all. The XE will be getting an upgraded interior.

At the 2018 Paris Motor Show, I bumped into Jaguar design head Ian Callum to talk sedans, sports cars, and the electric supercar that's in his head.

Ian Callum: A Series 3, a 1983 Daimler Sovereign. But it broke down. The only car in the whole trip that broke down was my car. The alternator went. We tried to jump start in a few times, but we gave up. It happens.

R&T: Looking back on 50 years now, which is your favorite XJ generation?

IC: The first one and the last one (laughing). I fell in love with the first one when it came out, and I thought it’s a fabulous car. It was very modern, very dramatic. You know, when you consider the other cars around that time, they were very conservative. This car wasn’t. It’s traditional in its details, but its proportions were amazing. The wheels were huge! All those Mercedes sedans and BMWs had those little wheels. The Jaguar had big wheels, and that’s when I kind of learned about the proportions of a car. How important it is. So, that’s really one of my favorites. I have a Series II at home, a coupé, which I think is a beautiful one. That’s probably my favorite of all of them. I know it’s a Series II, but a two-door. I have big, 18-inch wheels on it.

And then, I really like the last one that we did (2009), because it breaks the mold. I don’t think the XJ should have gone through all the traditional design phases it did. I think it should have been more revolutionary each time. And I think the reason was that William Lyons just wasn’t there anymore. The Coupé was the last car he actually influenced, and it was one of his favorites, by the way.

The Last Special Product From Mr. Jaguar Himself
I think afterwards, the custodians of the brand just repeated the same story. He would not have done that. He would have been more revolutionary, so it was important for me to be revolutionary with the change for what we have today. But that car is eight years old now, you know. And it still looks okay. That’s important. A Jag should always look good. Even when it’s old. I still love today’s car. We had an XJR575 on the drive here, and I was watching it on the road, and it really made me want to buy one. If I can get the right price (laughing). It’s a lovely car.

R&T: XJ sales are slow, and manufacturers often talk about the challenges of selling a sedan. Why do you think people are turning away from this traditional body style?

IC: I don’t think they are! It’s complicated, really. The most successful XJ was actually the XJ40 (1986). We were selling 45,000 a year. I mean, that was healthy stuff. And I was trying to explain this to my bosses: the reason it happened was that it found a really particular niche market. It wasn’t a big car. Much smaller than the competitors, and certainly a lot smaller than a lot of American cars. And our biggest customer was the US, and most in the US were women. And a lot of women bought them because they liked the size of it. You still got the luxury, you still got the room, but they liked the fact that it was a little smaller than everything else. Of course in time, the car grew into the F-segment. Sometimes I wonder, was that the right answer? I don’t know, but I’d prefer it to be smaller. But there are aspects people insist on, like the legroom and headroom, all that boring stuff that we have to hear too. So the car grew, and it grew to the size of a natural F-segment car, because that’s what the marketing people have been measuring. Other F-segment cars.

And the [sales] volume of this XJ? It has never been huge. It was in the 20,000s at one point, and it went down to below 10,000 worldwide I think, but it is eight years old now. It’s still the best to drive though, of all the F-segment cars. But it is eight years old, and I think the age has a lot to do with it. Interestingly enough, the sedan market is still as big as the SUV market, it’s fifty-fifty around the world. It is skewed towards Asia. They do prefer sedans, and we can’t ignore that. But the western world is definitely heading towards SUVs. People are fickle. I think there may be a risk that people will grow up with SUVs, but there will be a generation beyond millennials that will not want SUVs. I think they will want sedans again. I think it might move back, and so we have to be prepared. People are moving towards SUVs because they are more practical. And people like to sit high, like to have a dominating view of the world. And you know, when you drive a Range Rover for the first time, you do feel very special. You’re the king of the country. But I’m not convinced it will be forever. I think people will be back to sedans, and station wagons as well. I hope!

We have facelifts of the XE and XF coming out relatively soon, and that makes a big difference. We really sorted the interior out. It’s a really good interior, and I think that’s one of the weaknesses of the current XE. But we have to get the communication out there. As for the next XJ, it has to be beautiful, sporty, sleek, it has to be a drivers’ car. The design has to signify the message of a sports car. It’s not just a three-box sedan. It’s something people wanna get into and drive. And that has to be a message of its shape.

R&T: The new F-Type is on its way. Rumor says it’s going to be a hybrid. But if you had no packaging constraints, what sort of a sports car would you design?

IC: This is not necessarily the plan. There’s not a plan, to be honest with you. But we went through a great big debate about it. The all-new F-Type, what it should be, and so on. I would like to do a mid-engine-style electric car, I think that would be the ultimate for me. Like a C-X75 [the concept car shown at the top of this page]. You know, mid-cabin, mid-engined proportions, but electric. I think that would be a phenomenal car. And it’s in my head, and you know, probably a few scribbles here and there. But we haven’t committed to that, and we may not do that in time for me the see that through, unfortunately (laughing).

Ian Callum Wants to Make an Electric Jaguar Supercar With Mid-Engine Proportions

 

[asrapid1]

The 5L SC engine will be replaced very soon. Thinking that the XE V8, if it comes, will come at the end of the facelift lifecycle.

But not with another v8 it seems.
According to this article on autoexpress Jaguar will kill xjr 575 super saloon

The Jaguar XJR super saloon has been deleted, meaning the Jaguar XJ is diesel-only for the first time in 50 years
Jaguar has axed its XJR 575 high performance super saloon, Auto Express has learned. The British firm has killed off the V8-powered limo due to ever more stringent WLTP emissions testing. The XJR 575’s niche appeal and small sales numbers in the UK – believed to be in the tens rather than the hundreds – also made homologating the car for the new emissions tests not cost effective.

The move brings an end to XJR name too – the high performance model has been offered in the XJ range since 1994. Jaguar has also quietly removed the 335bhp 3.0-litre supercharged V6 petrol version meaning the XJ can only be ordered with JLR’s perennial 296bhp 3.0-litre V6 turbo diesel.

and i don't think they will develop new v8 in future.

 

[hovabongZA]

But not with another v8 it seems.
According to this article on autoexpress Jaguar will kill xjr 575 super saloon


and i don't think they will develop new v8 in future.

They won’t develop a new V8 they’ll use the mighty 4.4L BMW V8

Revealed: the new 2+2 Jaguar F-type due in 2020 - with BMW power!

 

[asrapid1]

They won’t develop a new V8 they’ll use the mighty 4.4L BMW V8

Revealed: the new 2+2 Jaguar F-type due in 2020 - with BMW power!

Isn't BMW developing a new 4.0 l v8 TT?

 

[hovabongZA]

Isn't BMW developing a new 4.0 l v8 TT?

I have no idea, haven’t heard anything about BMW developing a new V8 if anything, they seem to be further developing the 4.4L V8. The N63 is 10 years old but only now are other manufacturers catching up to it. I do want to see a new V8, but I can also understand why BMW would keep it, it still performing on par with newer engines as we’ve seen in the new M5.The new iteration of the engine in the WLTP compliant M50i also seems to have remedied the sound of the exhaust too.

 

[klier]

They won’t develop a new V8 they’ll use the mighty 4.4L BMW V8

Revealed: the new 2+2 Jaguar F-type due in 2020 - with BMW power!

Whoa....Jaguar making smart decisions? Yes, I am all for it.