Official: C63 AMG Coupe Black Series

[wookieecrisp]

1635 Kilos, thats my info. It must be the DIN. That means about 95 KG less than the regular AMG.

Interesting. The SL Black also weighed 210 pounds, or 95 kg, less than the "normal" SL65. The SL is much heavier than this C though.

 

[Soup]

 

[MBFanToDeath]

Source: MotorAuthority via The World Of Mercedes-Benz AMG

 

[Merc1]

I want this car badly.

M

 

[GTA45E]

The most awesome looking two door coupe in the world!

Very expensive though. 100,000BP is almost $165,000USD. It looks and will perform better than the CLKBS.

 

[bum-man]

The most awesome looking two door coupe in the world!

I started noticing this recently from other people. I find it funny that these days we actually have to designate how many doors a coupe has.

 

[wookieecrisp]

I started noticing this recently from other people. I find it funny that these days we actually have to designate how many doors a coupe has.

Soon "coupe" will mean "car with sloping roofline" and "sedan" will mean "car with boxy roofline."
Especially with the shooting brakes and 3-door SUVs we have been seeing recently.

 

[GTA45E]

lOl, funny one bum-man.

As an option the C 63 AMG Coupé Black Series is also available as a four-seater including the AMG sports seats familiar from the C 63 AMG Coupé – and with single seats in the rear.

Just wondering how many of you would ( if you were to buy the C63BS) choose it with rear seats, I know I would!

 

[Merc1]

I can't stop looking at this car. Can't wait to see it in Black also.


M

 

[Zafiro]

Just wondering how many of you would ( if you were to buy the C63BS) choose it with rear seats, I know I would!

That thrashes the purpose with this car. Cars like this and GT3 and GTS are forbidden to use rear seats. Shame on you gta.

 

[GTA45E]

That thrashes the purpose with this car. Cars like this and GT3 and GTS are forbidden to use rear seats. Shame on you gta.

Oh I knew you couldn`t resist being such a purist!
99% of my time spent in this car would be on the streets with some of my friends.. 1% on the Track. (Maby once or twice a month)

 

[Sunny]

^I would pick a normal C63 sedan with proper 4 doors for that. What can the BS do on the street that the normal one can't. C63 already been criticized for it's harsh ride, if anything the BS would be even more harsh.

 

[Zafiro]

Word Sunny. If I want 4 seats I get something more practical, like a C63 PP saloon. Noway a C63 BS is more capable on the streets without loosing your license.

 

[Guibo]

Just wondering how many of you would ( if you were to buy the C63BS) choose it with rear seats, I know I would!

Personally, I would too. For me, it seems kind of a waste to lose the functionality of the extra seats in a car that was obviously designed to seat 4. With a car that looks like this, and promises to perform incredibly well, the more people you can share the experience with, the better. And it would retain those features offered over the standard C63: adjustable suspension (possibly more comfort in softest setting), sharper steering, more downforce with the aero kit, and likely better sustained high performance driving via larger brakes and increased diff cooling.
In a Porsche GT3, losing the rear seats is OK; that car has pretty poor rear seatback design and very limited leg- and headroom. With an M3 GTS and this C63BS, it should keep the rear seats. If the rear seats constitute any significant weight, then that could add to the rearward weight bias which is beneficial.

 

[Zafiro]

I dont understand share the experience with others. It not a freaking charity. And where are you going to share the experience other than on a track. In normal streets a C63 PP is just as capable as this BS. No save some cash or get a C63 + 1M

 

[Guibo]

I dont understand share the experience with others. It not a freaking charity. And where are you going to share the experience other than on a track. In normal streets a C63 PP is just as capable as this BS. No save some cash or get a C63 + 1M

You can share the experience with friends, family, co-workers, etc. Doesn't have to be a charity.
You can share the experience anywhere you drive any other C63: on road, on track, at meet & greets. You can use it when you pick up your kid and his two buddies from school. You can use it on your lunch break with colleagues, where you might otherwise have to take 2 cars. We don't know that the C63 PP is just as capable or feels quite like the C63BS, but for me personally I know the C63 doesn't look anywhere near as desirable. I mean, we're not talking about an Elise or Atom here; it's a ~1700kg coupe originally designed for 4 people for chrissake. And let's not kid ourselves that so many people are so hardcore; CSL owners piled all the luxury and weight-adding options back on.
Yes, I could save cash and get a C63 + 1M. But then how would we know I'd get the same experience as from a C63 Black Series? This is like the "I could get a GT-R and a ZR1 for the price of a 458" argument. Yeah, I could. But what if I don't want a ZR1 or GT-R, and I want a 458? IMO, a Black Series, like an M3 GTS, 911 Sport Classic, or even the 458, isn't bought on objective matters of "this vs that." It's something I'd buy because I want it, because it appeals on an emotional level. And just as I wouldn't want an M3 with the rear seats tossed out for dubious performance gain at for-sure loss of practicality, I'd take my C63 BS with the rear seats, thanks. (Just as a concession to purely objective logic, I don't currently have the garage space for 2 cars anyway!)
It would be sort of like throwing out the passenger seats and belts on a McLaren F1 for the sake of performance; you'd be throwing away something that adds to the "cool factor" on the F1, and something that serves a definite functional purpose. It's entirely possible you don't understand how some might find that functionality very appealing.

 

[Sunny]

And it would retain those features offered over the standard C63: adjustable suspension (possibly more comfort in softest setting)

AFAIK standard C63 doesn't have adjustable suspension, not even has an option. And I doubt the BS does either.

 

[Jabba]

Something about the price:
98.000 Euro + Tax in Germany.
And i quite doubt that the C63 is as good on normal streets as the BS. I just drove the C63 Coupe and its big difference to the SLS. The C 63 BS will be nearly as good as the SLS (but its limited to 300 Km/h). I think, the difference is clearly defined to the purpose:
C63 C - for fun, race track and daily use, the BS is only for fun and racetrack.
(It´s the same question like SL63 or SLS Roadster)

 

[Zafiro]

I dont see what experience they get though. I've been in RS4 with two other passengers on a track. I've been passenger in Subaru Impreza with a driver who thought he could drive, almost took my life. I've been passenger in cars doing almost 300km/h. I dont see the joy in that, instead you are nervous and holding on to something and hoping nothing goes wrong. And crusing wont improve the experience either thats just boring. My experience of driving a tuned Seat Cupra beats those other moments. You get more satisfaction of driving the car on your own.
My point is that C63 PP is just as capable as C63 BS on normal streets. You need a track and to be a good driver (like martinbo) to get out more satisfaction of the C63 BS and for your friends to fully enjoy the experience.

Skip your friends and skip the rearseats (you still have two seats left for one of your buddies) and start taking driver lessons or get a standard C63, thats the way I see it.

 

[Guibo]

I dont see what experience they get though. I've been in RS4 with two other passengers on a track. I've been passenger in Subaru Impreza with a driver who thought he could drive, almost took my life. I've been passenger in cars doing almost 300km/h. I dont see the joy in that, instead you are nervous and holding on to something and hoping nothing goes wrong. And crusing wont improve the experience either thats just boring. My experience of driving a tuned Seat Cupra beats those other moments. You get more satisfaction of driving the car on your own.
My point is that C63 PP is just as capable as C63 BS on normal streets. You need a track and to be a good driver (like martinbo) to get out more satisfaction of the C63 BS and for your friends to fully enjoy the experience.

Skip your friends and skip the rearseats (you still have two seats left for one of your buddies) and start taking driver lessons or get a standard C63, thats the way I see it.

You don't have to be going 10/10ths for lap times to enjoy the BS on a track. I've seen pics of guys in GT-Rs on trackdays just messing around with passengers in the rear seats. If you want to go much faster, people pay to have the crap scared out of them by Sabine in the Ring Taxi. If the C63BS were really designed for no passengers, MB would have deleted the right front passenger seat altogether and given no option for rear seating whatsoever. I think they know as well as anyone else that MB drivers tend not to be as hardcore as BMW drivers, who themselves tend to not be as hardcore as their image suggests.
As for your Impreza experience, we can't cite poor driving as a reason why seats should be deleted. That sounds to me like that driver shouldn't even be allowed on any road or track. If given the chance to cruise in an M3 GTS vs a standard M3, you're telling me you wouldn't want to try out in the GTS? I bet you would. Just listening to it at idle should tell you the experience will be different.
Without any known road test of the BS, it's too soon to say there is no benefit of the BS over the regular PP. What is plainly clear to my eyes is that with the regular car you don't get the visual impact as on the BS. You don't get the sense that you are in a limited edition factory special.
You can have your friends, your family and driving lessons. It's not one or the other. That's the way I see it.

AFAIK standard C63 doesn't have adjustable suspension, not even has an option. And I doubt the BS does either.

The articles thus far indicate the Black Series has adjustable coilovers. They are adjusted manually, but should beat a harsh fixed setup with no option to tailor for road or track.