X5 M / X6 M [Official] BMW X6 M Thread

[Sunny]

If true, wow, what a slap to the face to all the whiners in this thread. But I do have my doubts.

 

[klier]

Is it true?

X6 M can really do Nordshleife in less than 8 minutes?

Old news, this was already said many months ago. The X6 M will be around as fast on the Ring as the E46 M3 is

 

[LaArtist]

Let me just remind you..
No one doubted the performance
It could do the ring in 3 min..and still look like a dog turd..

 

[Centurion]

Beating the E46 isn't a grand achievement as the car is over 10 years old. It's like me boasting about beating my grand father in a 100m sprint.

 

[Tarek]

It could do the ring in 3 min..and still look like a dog turd..

It's me boasting about beating my grand father in a 100m sprint.

 

[Deleted member 25]

10 years old or not luw, fact is that one is a pachydermic suv and the other is an athletic sedan.

 

[LaArtist]

^Coupe

 

[Tarek]

10 years old or not luw, fact is that one is a pachydermic suv and the other is an athletic sedan.

u know better than that,things are much more advanced than before.

Anyway back to the under 8 min thing,is that faster than E60 M5 and E92 M3?

 

[Centurion]

10 years old or not luw, fact is that one is a pachydermic suv and the other is an athletic sedan.

No doubt credit is due here but a better comparison could have been drawn here. Regardless whether the car is an athletic coupe or not, it's old and substantial progression is made over 10 years. This is technology we're talking about -- advancements in efficiency and dynamics also filter down to the big cars.

 

[ACE]

u know better than that,things are much more advanced than before.

Anyway back to the under 8 min thing,is that faster than E60 M5 and E92 M3?

E60 M5 8:13
E63 M6 8:09
E92 M3 8:05

I think we can safely say that the X6 M will not be lapping the ring in under 8 mins, unless it's got a stage 3 conversion and racing slicks.

8:22 (same as E46 M3) seems plausible given 550ps and M engineering. The 407ps BMW X6 xDrive50i did an 8:54, so it's definitely gonna be considerably quicker than that. M division shaving 32 secs off will be a remarkable accomplishment but, imo, if you want a turbo charged 4-seater that can lap the ring quickly then get a GTR.

 

[VroomVroom]

E60 M5 8:13
E63 M6 8:09
E92 M3 8:05

I think we can safely say that the X6 M will not be lapping the ring in under 8 mins, unless it's got a stage 3 conversion and racing slicks.

If you want a turbo charged 4-seater that can lap the ring quickly then get a GTR.

I have this argument with a friend of mine all the time.

I say I could buy an Audi, BMW Mercedes what ever for 20+k, then he says well you might as well get a Ford Focus ST which is sportier for the same price.

Which is the same as you said, you might as well basically buy a Nissan GTr. But some people want the image of owning a BMW, Audi or Mercedes because is more luxurious and has more prestige image than a Ford Focus ST which has the completly different image, it's more hothatch racer for young lads.

So yes you could buy a Nissan GTr for less money, same use. But people WANT that powerful demanding image fromt he X6

You get me?

 

[Mr Robert]

Oh, ... No.
No-no-no. Not the X6 M.

This car is "fat", "not worthy of M badge", "a swan song for M badge", "not a true M", "another SAV from BMW", "too chubby" etc.

Exactly. Even if it does the ring in 7 minutes sharp it will never be a proper M car.

Perhaps it's not under 8, but close to 8? Or is it really under 8?

The officials say "significantly faster than E46 M3" - which did the Ring in 8:22

The officials said the E60 M5 would do it under 8 minutes.

 

[ACE]

I have this argument with a friend of mine all the time.

I say I could buy an Audi, BMW Mercedes what ever for 20+k, then he says well you might as well get a Ford Focus ST which is sportier for the same price.

Which is the same as you said, you might as well basically buy a Nissan GTr. But some people want the image of owning a BMW, Audi or Mercedes because is more luxurious and has more prestige image than a Ford Focus ST which has the completly different image, it's more hothatch racer for young lads.

So yes you could buy a Nissan GTr for less money, same use. But people WANT that powerful demanding image fromt he X6

You get me?

I get what you are saying but you need to reread the context of the post. Some people were claiming the X6 M was going to post a sub 8 min ring time and therefore be worthy of the M badge (or at least what the M badge used to stand for). If lap times are what you like your car to be good at (for your image!) then I do stand by my recommendation that you should get a GTR.

Also, while we are on the topic, I don't believe the X6 M image is quite in the same league as the other Eur 100k+ "performance" SUVs, i.e. Porsche Cayenne Turbo (new model) and ML 63 AMG, at least in the minds of the target market. Ring lap time (unlike image) is not something that is important in this sector. Let the sales figures prove me wrong.

 

[EnI]

The officials said the E60 M5 would do it under 8 minutes.

And it went under 8 mins ... During testings. In almost ideal condition, with just enough fuel on board, and a driver who can do the Ring blindfolded.

Regarding X6 M: an official statement by BMW says X6 M is "significantly faster around the Nordschleife than E46 M3" ... AutoSport managed to do the Ring in 8:22 with E46 M3.

So, what's significantly faster than 8:22?

Btw, I'm sure BMW test drivers managed to do it even faster. Eg. in 8:15 ... So, what's significantly faster than 8:15?

 

[Cashmere]

lol, what does CM stand for again?

 

[Deleted member 25]

What's the GTS's time on the nurburg ?

 

[GCfan]

What's the GTS's time on the nurburg ?

BMW X6 destroyed the Cayenne GTS on Nurgburing test

 

[bmwblog]

And it went under 8 mins ... During testings. In almost ideal condition, with just enough fuel on board, and a driver who can do the Ring blindfolded.

Regarding X6 M: an official statement by BMW says X6 M is "significantly faster around the Nordschleife than E46 M3" ... AutoSport managed to do the Ring in 8:22 with E46 M3.

So, what's significantly faster than 8:22?

Btw, I'm sure BMW test drivers managed to do it even faster. Eg. in 8:15 ... So, what's significantly faster than 8:15?

As I said earlier, that's what I learned from someone at BMWNA, no exact time was given, only the fact that it was under 8 min.

We'll find out soon, that's less important now

 

[Deleted member 25]

i will say 8:15

 

[Centurion]

E60 M5 8:13
E63 M6 8:09
E92 M3 8:05

I think we can safely say that the X6 M will not be lapping the ring in under 8 mins, unless it's got a stage 3 conversion and racing slicks.

8:22 (same as E46 M3) seems plausible given 550ps and M engineering. The 407ps BMW X6 xDrive50i did an 8:54, so it's definitely gonna be considerably quicker than that. M division shaving 32 secs off will be a remarkable accomplishment but, imo, if you want a turbo charged 4-seater that can lap the ring quickly then get a GTR.

I guess that's it. 8:15 is feasible. The power output is just 50hp which isn't enough to compensate for the weight penelty, higher centre of gravity. So don't eat into the hope and hype that CM are trying to feed you. A prototype might have done it in under 8 min while riding on fumes, sticky tires and a somewhat stripped interior just to test what the car is capable of. It's a turbo charged car as well so the power output of the mule might not necessarily be the same as the production car. But in the real world it won't lap faster than the M5 or M3.