X5 M / X6 M [Official] BMW X6 M Thread

[Tarek]

so conclusion of this long arguments is >> BMW is gay ?

..Kashif aka Artist is gonna like this line a lot..

Well to be fair I'm not going to harp on it anymore....
M

Ohh now Tarek is in trouble, you just made his day and now you abandon him poor Tarek

Tarek, btw it has been a while since you said the Panamera is ugly

j/k bro.

Lol,well Marcus already smoked BMW's butt a few pages back,so it's fine if he show some mercy now..

..oh Panamera is ugly..lol

 

[LaArtist]

so conclusion of this long arguments is >> BMW is gay ?

And Sayyaaf wins the 1st prize

 

[Tarek]

Lol

 

[klier]

Artist dreams about BMW, I have no doubts

 

[Tarek]

^

 

[Merc1]

I still want one though.

M

 

[JadeVetti]

So, it's another day and another episode in the BMW Heresies story.

Episode III - The uncompromising Motorsport Division, compromised.

Why, did we ever - credit crunch, fuel crisis lnotwithstanding - need an M badge to be tacked on to the back of an SUV? Isn't an X6 xDrive50i all the sports activity coupe any rational BMW buyer would want? I want to know, at what point is an X6 xDrive50i not enough?

I'm really curious about the demographic and profile of this buyer.

Allow me to answer this, whether it sounds rational or not...

I more than welcomed the possibility of BMW creating a M badged 4 door that looked like a coupe but somehow, would stand on 4 wheels.

I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw the unveiling of the X6 concept almost two years ago.

My sole justification was simple then, and it still stands: I always wanted an M3. Never an M5, not an M6. The M3.

But life is tricky, and you cannot put everything or your heart on halt just to get to your desired rainbow.

So, after marriage and children, I let the dream of owning an M3 die. Maybe one day, I would own one. But realistically, I knew deep in my heart that would not be the case. In my mind, driving one included me being a certain age. Do you follow?

With the X6, I can say I can get away with being a mom and getting what I always wanted. X6? Great. X6 M?? My prayers were answered.

Therefore, I am not and surely will not be ashamed to say that I would buy such a vehicle for the M badge. I don't buy counterfeits and I start now by trying to stick M badges all over a vehicle. I trust BMW enough that they will make sure the vechicle does its best to fall in line with their ever evolving M philosophy.

Kudos to everyone else who can own an M3 with ease for whatever reasons.

But from where I stand, where.I.stand, it makes sense to and for me.

My story/reasoning/rationalization is only one justification. I can't speak for others who want the X6M.

 

[JadeVetti]

Here is the official media presentation for the BMW X6 M .

BMW X5 M and BMW X6 M : Multimedia highlights

(Goosebumps with a smile.)

 

[VroomVroom]

Allow me to answer this, whether it sounds rational or not...

I more than welcomed the possibility of BMW creating a M badged 4 door that looked like a coupe but somehow, would stand on 4 wheels.

I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw the unveiling of the X6 concept almost two years ago.

My sole justification was simple then, and it still stands: I always wanted an M3. Never an M5, not an M6. The M3.

But life is tricky, and you cannot put everything or your heart on halt just to get to your desired rainbow.

So, after marriage and children, I let the dream of owning an M3 die. Maybe one day, I would own one. But realistically, I knew deep in my heart that would not be the case. In my mind, driving one included me being a certain age. Do you follow?

With the X6, I can say I can get away with being a mom and getting what I always wanted. X6? Great. X6 M?? My prayers were answered.

Therefore, I am not and surely will not be ashamed to say that I would buy such a vehicle for the M badge. I don't buy counterfeits and I start now by trying to stick M badges all over a vehicle. I trust BMW enough that they will make sure the vechicle does its best to fall in line with their ever evolving M philosophy.

Kudos to everyone else who can own an M3 with ease for whatever reasons.

But from where I stand, where.I.stand, it makes sense to and for me.

My story/reasoning/rationalization is only one justification. I can't speak for others who want the X6M.

You made some great points there Jade!

But as you said you could only dream of having an M3 basically due to practicality. So in reality all the men will buy the M3 so that leaves the X6-M for who?

People like you who can't have the M3 due to practicality reasons, but (no offense) how many women are there out there who would actually buy an X6-M?

Not many. The intended market for this car is very vague.

No doubt it's going to be an amazing car, but whos going to drive it?

(By the way, you must be one cooll mum!)

 

[Centurion]

Still, wouldn't it be refreshing to hear a car maker say that they would rather lose a few customers by not entering into a specific segment but would rather focus on making the existing model range better than their competitors...?

We all have our beliefs and values that we stand by, but everything in life has a price. Like I have said in the past, BMW could no longer sit on the side bench watching Porsche selling huge volumes of the Cayenne Turbo. SUVs are easy money and we all know that the AMG and Turbo badge make owner's penis grow 1 inch. So BMW had no option then to whore the M badge for marketing purposes.

For several years BMW have played hard to get while trying to preserve their dignity in protecting the M prefix. My concern is that they have joined the performance SUV bandwagon too late and at the wrong time. Not only that but they've done so using the most lacklustre press material we've seen in ages. My prediction is that the X5-M will fare better than the overly niche X6-M which I can only see appeal to 19 years old guys living off daddy's oil money in Knightsbridge.

 

[SCOTT27]

You are right in the case of BMW sitting at the sidelines watching enthusiasts snap up the Cayenne Turbo whereas we could could only offer a premium Sports Activity Coupe not a Performance model.

It is true that many of our M customers do have a typical M3 , M5 or M6 and a an additional SUV as a family vehicle. In many cases this vehicle is the Porsche Cayenne Turbo which delivers well for the enthusiast who owns a typical M vehicle , Performance , dynamics and room for a dog.

These customers have always asked why no M SAV? And we thought about it but we decided against it originally , but there has always been a market for this type of Performance vehicle.
Although we are in a very wary climate due to the economy , such vehicles like these will sell amongst people who are effectively not affected by the crisis, BMW predicts that the Middle East will possibly be the largest area for X-M sales growth.

There is always one thing to be sure about a BMW M model and that is Individuality. What you see here is unique to the X-M models and them only. The Engine will be unique as will the gearbox , This engine in the X5-M and X6-M is not just going to be a transplant for future M models.
Each M model will showcase a distinct difference in not just appearence or how the car drives but BMW have insisted that this is not
"one engine, "many cars" .

 

[JadeVetti]

You made some great points there Jade!

But as you said you could only dream of having an M3 basically due to practicality. So in reality all the men will buy the M3 so that leaves the X6-M for who?

People like you who can't have the M3 due to practicality reasons, but (no offense) how many women are there out there who would actually buy an X6-M?

Not many. The intended market for this car is very vague.

No doubt it's going to be an amazing car, but whos going to drive it?

(By the way, you must be one cooll mum!)

Why thank you VroomVroom.

You're right-not many. I'm very curious to see the sales figures.

But hey, I'm thinking selfishly, so as long as I get what I want-BMW made it for me. I don't know any others like me (either).

 

[Merc1]

There is always one thing to be sure about a BMW M model and that is Individuality. What you see here is unique to the X-M models and them only. The Engine will be unique as will the gearbox , This engine in the X5-M and X6-M is not just going to be a transplant for future M models.
Each M model will showcase a distinct difference in not just appearence or how the car drives but BMW have insisted that this is not
"one engine, "many cars" .

Really, so this engine and transmission (just a regular 6-speed automatic anyway) won't end up in the M5. That isn't saying much really. The engine most likely will in some form or another and the automatic probably not...not a big deal since an M5 with a true torque-converter automatic would be even more of a sell out on the previous theory.


"One engine, many cars".........an obvious swipe at AMG.

How rich coming from a "Motorsport" division who just sold its soul and pimped itself to chase SUV sales.

Even in retreat still firing broadsides........amazingly hilarious.


Let me guess, different displacement and adding turbos qualifies as a completely different and "individual" engine?

Funny when AMG used to do this it was deemed a half-arse effort. Now when BMW does it, it is "idividuality".


Oh how the "M"ighty have fallen.


M

 

[Centurion]

Don't worry Marcus. Scott will swallow those words in 2-3 years time, the same way all the hardcore BMW fans on this board have seen their worst nightmares come true. An SUV with an torque converter makes now makes the M-"philosophy" a double fail. There absolutely nothing delicate about the X6-M that makes it more sacred than any of its rivals. The only philosophy now is Money which is what the M stands for.

 

[Merc1]

One of the biggest functions of marketing is drawing differences between you and your competition so the "one engine many cars" line is the only thing left I guess.

Seriously though, I don't see why an M7 can't be built now.

What I keep thinking is that they're going to do an M version of the 5GT. Could you imagine that and a V6 M3?


M

 

[Sunny]

One engine many cars is true, so why take so much offense. You guys are taking it way too personally.

 

[siko]

M version ... E89 was not made with new M 6-cylinder twin-turbo in mind. Therefore it's not sure the engine would fit in Z4 engine bay at all. Especially if being made in V6 form. The engine is made for M3 ... If it will fit in Z4 as well - then perhaps Z4 will be offered. Otherwise not. If - then with the Z4 facelift - as it was the case with E85.

But I was told BMW would rather go with "tii" variant. Performance Pack + Power Boost for N54 engine.

OK fine... but tell why weren't these trucks made as "tii" variants... seems more logical to have a Z4M and X5/6 "tii" variants then the present inverse scenario.

Anyhow, I still stand by my comment that the M division seems to be going the wrong way.

 

[EnI]

You're right-not many. I'm very curious to see the sales figures.

X6 M is a niche variant of an already niche model with not-high-at-all production / sales plans.

There wont be much X6 M out there ... But be sure all of them will be sold.

 

[EnI]

OK fine... but tell why weren't these trucks made as "tii" variants... seems more logical to have a Z4M and X5/6 "tii" variants then the present inverse scenario.

Anyhow, I still stand by my comment that the M division seems to be going the wrong way.

Wanna hear my PERSONAL opinion? Here you go:

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Sometimes I find another world
inside my mind
when I realize
the crazy things we do
It makes me feel ashamed to be alive
It makes me wanna run away and hide

It's all 'bout the money
It's all 'bout the dum dum.......
I don't think It's funny
to see us fade away
It's all 'bout the money
It's all 'bout the dum dum...
and I think we got it all wrong anyway

We find strange ways of showing
them how much we really care
when in fact
we just don't seem to care at all
This pretty world
is getting out of hand
So tell me how we fail to understand?

It's all 'bout the money
It's all 'bout the dum dum.......
I don't think it's funny
to see us fade away
It's all 'bout the money
It's all 'bout the dum dum...
and I think we got it all wrong anyway
Anyway

Cause it's all 'bout the money

It's all 'bout the money
It's all 'bout the dum dum...
I don't think it's funny
to see us fade away
It's all 'bout the money
It's all 'bout the dum dum...
and I think we got it all wrong
Anyway

It's all 'bout the money
It's all 'bout the dum dum...
I don't think it's funny
to see us fade away
It's all 'bout the money
It's all 'bout the dum dum...
and I think we got it all wrong anyway
Anyway

 

[Mr Robert]

You are right in the case of BMW sitting at the sidelines watching enthusiasts snap up the Cayenne Turbo whereas we could could only offer a premium Sports Activity Coupe not a Performance model.

You are right in the case of BMW sitting at the sidelines watching enthusiasts snap up the Cayman S, TT-RS, RS3 and Mercedes SLK Black Series whereas we could could only offer a premium Sports Type Alternative not a Performance model.

There is always one thing to be sure about a BMW M model and that is Individuality. What you see here is unique to the X-M models and them only. The Engine will be unique as will the gearbox , This engine in the X5-M and X6-M is not just going to be a transplant for future M models.
Each M model will showcase a distinct difference in not just appearence or how the car drives but BMW have insisted that this is not
"one engine, "many cars" .

I'm very happy, the thaught of some of the features of the X5M/X6M finding its way to the real M cars made my blood freeze.