X2 [Official] BMW X2 (F39)

[klier]

Hilariously expensive. A nicely specced version will be going to 80k Euros in Holland

Nevertheless, other than the horrible and cheap hood shutline, I like it quite a lot. Sexy little crossover.

First non M BMW with DCT? Interesting. I

DCT is replacing all automatic FWD Bimmers and Minis. This X2 could very well be the first, but maybe the X1 has it already in an update.

 

[anti-VAG]

DCT is replacing all automatic FWD Bimmers and Minis. This X2 could very well be the first, but maybe the X1 has it already in an update.

New generation Getrag DCT goes to 300 Nm and you can already find it on some Renault models. They still did not introduced version which will be capable of up to 560 Nm.
We are talking about 7 speed wet DCT.

So for now 20d and 25d versions of X2 have Aisin 8 speed automatic.

 

[klier]

I see, tnx for the info.

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

I was expecting the ZF 9 speed automatic transmission to make its BMW debut in the X2

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

New generation Getrag DCT goes to 300 Nm and you can already find it on some Renault models. They still did not introduced version which will be capable of up to 560 Nm.
We are talking about 7 speed wet DCT.

So for now 20d and 25d versions of X2 have Aisin 8 speed automatic.

But Renault uses it only on FWD models and here we have all wheel drive so most probably it is specifically adopted to the BMW specification.

 

[anti-VAG]

But Renault uses it only on FWD models and here we have all wheel drive so most probably it is specifically adopted to the BMW specification.

Not necessary. Usually Getrag or ZF have a list of AWD systems which can be paired to a transmission. All other is done on your own responsibility. In case of RNA it's most likely that they are using some Japanese AWD which is not by default compatible with Getrag.

 

[anti-VAG]

I was expecting the ZF 9 speed automatic transmission to make its BMW debut in the X2

All car manufacturers which have used ZF 9HP had a lot of problems with it.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Can somebody please confirm that the xDrive25d is the B47 Twin-turbo? The BMW press release says it is a single turbo but I'm pretty sure that is wrong.

 

[Matski]

Can somebody please confirm that the xDrive25d is the B47 Twin-turbo? The BMW press release says it is a single turbo but I'm pretty sure that is wrong.

Hmmm...... where does it say it's a single? The X1 25d has two turbos, I'd have thought this would be the same.

edit: I did a ctrl+F on the Press release and looked for single, then turbo, neither showed anything to do with turbo's.

 

[Cabasse0]

Hilariously expensive. A nicely specced version will be going to 80k Euros in Holland

Nevertheless, other than the horrible and cheap hood shutline, I like it quite a lot. Sexy little crossover.



DCT is replacing all automatic FWD Bimmers and Minis. This X2 could very well be the first, but maybe the X1 has it already in an update.

DCT is already available on some X1 models

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Not necessary. Usually Getrag or ZF have a list of AWD systems which can be paired to a transmission. All other is done on your own responsibility. In case of RNA it's most likely that they are using some Japanese AWD which is not by default compatible with Getrag.

When the car is FWD is a little different, because the front differential is integrated in the transmission housing and the torque should be splitted before it.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Hmmm...... where does it say it's a single? The X1 25d has two turbos, I'd have thought this would be the same.

edit: I did a ctrl+F on the Press release and looked for single, then turbo, neither showed anything to do with turbo's.

In the specs.

The 20d and 25d just says the same engine technology.

Whereas the X1 25d says it's "multi-stage" turbos.

I think somebody has just lazily copy and pasted the text across both the 20d and 25d. They've also got the dimensions incorrect in the text above that. It's just utter incompetence that they can't even get an official press release correct.

 

[Matski]

@Betty Swollocks

Ah okay, I see, yeah, my conclusion is the same as yours, type-setting laziness - also, to be fair, the term "TwinPower Turbo Technology" is about as descriptive as quoting speed in litres per volt.

 

[hovabongZA]

The more I see it the more I like it. It’s going to sell very well.

 

[braaf]

The more I see it the more i like it.

 

[Rainer271]

It‘s the same with me. Despite of the size of the headlights ( for me not slim enough ) and the different hood shutline compared to the X1 the X2 looks fantastic to me.
What is the reason that the X2 has got this hood shutline?

 

[Matski]

What is the reason that the X2 has got this hood shutline?

I'm not stating this as a fact, but I suspect it has something to do with this...

Pedestrian impact tests focus heavily on that area of the car, the various areas set by the wrap around distances (WAD) seem to have different roles to play in the test process, and I suspect sometimes it's beneficial to have softer and harder areas in different places. Not only that but the leading edge of the bonnet seems to set a reference point for other measurements, so the hood shut line position can also be used by the designers to dictate or define areas for tests that might give better results.

 

[SF Dede]

@ Matski, let's say for the benefit of discussion that you are correct and that this is the result of meeting pedestrian safety requirements. Even if this is the case, it is still very easy to draw a hood shut line that accentuates the design instead of what we have - a straight line about the roundel that meets the headlights.

Why couldn't it bend back before hitting the lights and instead meet up with the lateral edges of the hood? Something simple and graceful.

I simply find it hard to believe this was the reason though, given we don't have this situation on the X1, the vehicle upon which it was directly derived.

 

[Matski]

@ Matski, let's say for the benefit of discussion that you are correct and that this is the result of meeting pedestrian safety requirements. Even if this is the case, it is still very easy to draw a hood shut line that accentuates the design instead of what we have - a straight line about the roundel that meets the headlights.

Why couldn't it bend back before hitting the lights and instead meet up with the lateral edges of the hood? Something simple and graceful.

I simply find it hard to believe this was the reason though, given we don't have this situation on the X1, the vehicle upon which it was directly derived.

It actually isn't a straight line, from above it already sweeps back towards the edges of the bonnet and from the front it drops down slightly... actually, if they took it to the upper corners, it would probably form no less of a perceived straight line IMHO.

.. but in answer to the spirit of your question, I don't know. I just can't see it being cost based choice, and I can't see it being a design based choice. There might be some explanation in manufacturing technique, as the front ends are mounted on the car in one piece...

But to me, since pedestrian safety regulations focus so heavily on this part of the vehicle, it just seems the most logical explanation to me. People can hate on the shutline if they want, but at the end of the day, there will be a reason for it, and that reason will outweigh the aesthetic need. If it didn't it - they wouldn't do it that way repeatedly.


edit:

To add, if you look at some of the NCAP videos for pedestrian safety, you can see the different behavior of the X1 vs the 2AT (for example)... good shutline vs. bad shutline

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Like I say, I could be wrong..

 

[EnI]

X2 has lower and pointier nose than X1 therefore larger portion of the nose it has to be softer - made of plastics just like bumper - due to pedestrian safety reasons.