M3/M4 [Official] BMW M3 Sedan and M4 Coupe

[Sunny]

Those wheels are indeed horrible. BMW been doing them (with tiny variations) since X5/6 M. I wish they would just stop. The only good M wheels now are the ones on M6 GC.

 

[Zafiro]

With Black wheels

 

[as7920]

Until the Silverstone pics I hadn't realised how pronounced the lines/creases were along the sills on the M3.
I may be in the minority here but I actually like SS on the new M3, more so than the E90.
And the wheels too!

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Not just black, but the standard 18" wheels. I think this design looks better.

 

[Zafiro]

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[aleks_16]

 

[mini_cooper4]

M3 in any color over M4 in any color... every single day of the week!

 

[martinbo]

That exterior colour on the M4 is rather fetching and works well with the wheel combo. What is that colour - looks like space grey to me. Now, put some red leather seats in that cabin and that would be my selection right there.

Now, manual or automatic?

 

[Sunny]

^ Pops, you are too old for red interior.

My choice would be a manual mineral white M3 but with black interior.

 

[klier]

M3 in any color over M4 in any color... every single day of the week!

Hell will freeze over before I agree.

 

[Deckhook]

M3 in any color over M4 in any color... every single day of the week!

I kind of understand what you mean because the more I look at each the more I am drawn to the M3 because its got more of a hotrod look about it. I love to see one in Valencia Orange with smoked rims.

 

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

BMW has confirmed to Top Gear that there won't be a hardcore, lightweight ‘CSL' version of the new M3 saloon and M4 Coupe.

This is sad, because the last time BMW rolled out a CSL - the much loved E46 M3 CSL - they knocked the ball out of the park, withJeremy even declaring it "BMW at its absolute best".

Seems the iconic nomenclature won't make a return on the new generation of M3 and M4. Matt Collins, product manager for BMW's small to medium cars, responded to what the enthusiasts will no doubt be whining about in a couple of years time. "Couple of years?" he says, "they're whining about [a new CSL] now. At the moment though, there are no plans on a CSL. Or anything like a CSL either."

BMW's view is that the new M3 and M4 are already CSLs, in essence. "There wasn't a CSL on the previous generation (the E92 M3), and the way we look at it is like this: the CSL was great because it had this real focus on lightweight engineering. But we've already done that with these new cars. We've made them as light as possible - they come in under 1500kgs, which for a car like this is incredible." Reference is made to the old E46 M3 weighing a similar amount.

"Rather than doing a halfway house to begin with," Matt explains, "and then rolling out a CSL, we thought we'd make the ‘real' car as light as we possibly could. So we've no plans whatsoever to make a lighter, harder version just yet."

Still, there's another lighter, harder Thing that is keeping the M aficionados concerned too, and that's the departure from a big, naturally aspirated 4.0-litre V8 to a twin-turbo 3.0-litre straight-six.

"I can understand that people might look at the six-cylinder and do the natural comparisons (with other BMW 3.0-litre turbos too), but the amount of change we've put on this engine is substantial. We think that any M engine has to be good enough to be true to the character of M, and this new S55 combines power (431bhp) torque (406lb ft) and usability combined with the CO2 benefits of a turbo (it emits the same CO2 as the original four-pot E30 M3). Plus we've retained that high-revving character of the V8, so the overall combination is right for us."

Should sound fruity, mind. "I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with how good it sounds. Granted, naturally aspirated cars and turbocharged cars are never going to be the same, but with this - with electronically controlled exhaust flaps - you'll feel like you're in an M car."

Let's hope so, because these new cars - with a quoted 0-62mph time of 4.1s (with the DCT ‘box) - are the quickest production cars BMW currently makes. Even faster than the M5 and M6. Not that BMW cares about such things. "We're not concerned [with being quicker than its 'big brothers'], we just wanted to make the quickest M3 and M4 possible." We kind of admire that here at TG. But tell us, should BMW build an even faster version of these two cars? Or is outright speed not really the point with an M car?

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/bmw-m3-m4-csl-not-happening-2014-01-22

 

[Mr Robert]

Those wheels are indeed horrible. BMW been doing them (with tiny variations) since X5/6 M. I wish they would just stop. The only good M wheels now are the ones on M6 GC.

The Mi wheels on both the 1-series and the 2-series are horrible... these M3/4 wheels are a tad better, but far from even ok.

Wassup!?

 

[mini_cooper4]

Hell will freeze over before I agree.

I might change my opinion after I see them in person next to each other.
Let's wait and see. Last chance to drive a Bimmer

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

I don't know why, but I am just totally underwhelmed by the M3/M4. I kinda feel like something's wrong with me. Maybe I need to go see a doctor or something.

But I think I know what would cure what ails me...an M3 Touring.

 

[mini_cooper4]

I don't know why, but I am just totally underwhelmed by the M3/M4. I kinda feel like something's wrong with me. Maybe I need to go see a doctor or something.

But I think I know what would cure what ails me...an M3 Touring.

I feel exactly the same way! An M3 Touring would be The Thing!

 

[JLBM]

I don't know why, but I am just totally underwhelmed by the M3/M4. I kinda feel like something's wrong with me. Maybe I need to go see a doctor or something.

But I think I know what would cure what ails me...an M3 Touring.

Possibly because, as excellent as it is, the base product is a little wanting. Especially the interior design.

 

[Zafiro]

I love this product, my favorite bimmer. Love it from the inside, love it from the outside. I'm only concerned how it drives, particulary if the steering is good or not.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

I love this product, my favorite bimmer. Love it from the inside, love it from the outside. I'm only concerned how it drives, particulary if the steering is good or not.

For the most part I agree with you. As much as I don't need to be pampered, i would like if the interior was a little more upscale, especially with the new C-class just being so nice.

 

[330CIZHP]

The design of the 4-series inherently is somewhat on the generic, cookie-cutter and uninspiring side. Then they tried to throw all of these tacky elements for the M4 to make it look aggressive.

Those strange vents cutting in many different directions at the front and back. The unnecessary hood bulge for the sake of putting a bulge (we know the engine is not any bigger than the N54 or N55 physical and the open hood picture validates that) make it all look like a complete mess.

I don't know why, but I am just totally underwhelmed by the M3/M4. I kinda feel like something's wrong with me. Maybe I need to go see a doctor or something.

But I think I know what would cure what ails me...an M3 Touring.