Flying Spur [Official] Bentley Flying Spur (Third generation, 2019- )

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I can’t believe you actually think the only thing you pay for with a Bentley is nicer leather.


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What does a base V8 Bentley do better than an Q7 vorsprung or A6 vorsprung. Wind noise, sound insulation, comfort, handling and body control are all on par.

The W12 was a differentiator but is no longer available. Off course the hot flagship bentleys have spice but the entry level models with V8 don't do anything better than a vorsprung Audi.

 

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What does a base V8 Bentley do better than an Q7 vorsprung or A6 vorsprung. Wind noise, sound insulation, comfort, handling and body control are all on par.

The W12 was a differentiator but is no longer available. Off course the hot flagship bentleys have spice but the entry level models with V8 don't do anything better than a vorsprung Audi.

A Q7 is a SUV, not a competitor and a A6 is not the same class of car either. Even if this was true, a Q7 or an A6 are NOT superior in every category to a Bentley. Why or how would the W12 be a "differentiator" in the cherry picked criteria you gave? And how do know any of this? You've driven them back to back?

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A Q7 is a SUV, not a competitor and a A6 is not the same class of car either. Even if this was true, a Q7 or an A6 are NOT superior in every category to a Bentley. Why or how would the W12 be a "differentiator" in the cherry picked criteria you gave? And how do know any of this? You've driven them back to back?

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In case you are not aware Bentleys share major components with Audi or VW models.

For suspension components vorsprung Q7 models have the same parts numbers the Bentyga. Three months ago I test drive a BMW X7 and V6 Diesel 2025 Vorsprung Q7. I also asked to experience the Q7 as a backseat passanger. Then last week a friend who works at Bentley gave me a 15min ride in a 2024 V8 Bentyga to the motorway and at low speeds.

Blind fold someone and put them in either car and they wouldn't be guess thet one is 3-4 times more expensive as far as ride, handing and road noise are concerned.

I am not saying thet Bentleys are bad cars. If you like luxury materials and design then are worth considering Audi or Porsche counter parts. Below RR and Bugatti there are hardly other brands thar offer the same level of interior customisation.

I was just surprised that the Q7 even in non S guise provides the same suspension and sway bar technology. This shouldn't be too big of a surprise as we no longer live in 2000 when the best gearboxes and suspension were exclusive to the very best luxury barges.

The lastest flagship VAG suspension is the panamera active ride. I think the flying spur and next hybrid Q7/Bentyga models have have it too for even calmer body control in core era and over broken roads.

 

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In case you are not aware Bentleys share major components with Audi or VW models.

For suspension components vorsprung Q7 models have the same parts numbers the Bentyga. Three months ago I test drive a BMW X7 and V6 Diesel 2025 Vorsprung Q7. I also asked to experience the Q7 as a backseat passanger. Then last week a friend who works at Bentley gave me a 15min ride in a 2024 V8 Bentyga to the motorway and at low speeds.

Blind fold someone and put them in either car and they wouldn't be guess thet one is 3-4 times more expensive as far as ride, handing and road noise are concerned.

I am not saying thet Bentleys are bad cars. If you like luxury materials and design then are worth considering Audi or Porsche counter parts. Below RR and Bugatti there are hardly other brands thar offer the same level of interior customisation.

I was just surprised that the Q7 even in non S guise provides the same suspension and sway bar technology. This shouldn't be too big of a surprise as we no longer live in 2000 when the best gearboxes and suspension were exclusive to the very best luxury barges.

The lastest flagship VAG suspension is the panamera active ride. I think the flying spur and next hybrid Q7/Bentyga models have have it too for even calmer body control in core era and over broken roads.

Everyone in the known world who follows cars knows this. In the Q7 and Bentyga you may have a point, but this is nothing new as they're so closely related and Bentley didn't go far enough to distance it from the other vehicles that share it's platform. That said, just because they share parts and part numbers doesn't mean the components and the suspension overall are tuned identically. I didn't see anything that proved what you're saying. Similar for sure, the exact same I doubt it from a few mins in the back seat. Plastering pictures of suspension doesn't prove anything other than how the suspenion works, not what it does for each vehicle's experience. An A6 doesn't match a Flying Spur going by anything you've posted here, sounds like total reaching nonense to me. Now you're saying a blindfolded person wouldn't guess they're a 3-4 times expensive car, you're moving the goal posts. First you said that the Bentleys don't do anything better, now you're saying they need to be so much better than a person would guess that they're in a car that is 3-4 times more expensive. You will be hard pressed to find this much seperation today between any products wearing a luxury label.


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