SL-Class (R232) [Official] All-new Mercedes-AMG SL (R232)

GTA45E · Dec 31, 2022

Giant Test: 2023 Mercedes-AMG SL63 R232 vs. 2023 Porsche 911 Turbo Cabriolet 992

The Turbo does not track as stoically as the SL, but it tells a more colourful story and keeps adding fresh nuances to a wild ride, whereas the Mercedes starcruiser is ultimately less exciting. Rural roads showcase the Turbo’s finely honed handling talents, the seamless car-driver interaction, and the all-important quality of the flow; it’s this flow that defines the 911. The Turbo steers like a scalpel, not merely like a sharp knife. It dances like a faun along the ridge of adhesion rather than merely straddling it.

The Mercedes does not lag far behind at all. It is less involving, but the margin is small. Its actions and reactions are somewhat less precise and immediate; we’re talking minor gradations. It rides better than the Porsche, except at low speed and over rough undulations.

-->> https://drives.today/articles/1039/...-vs-2023-porsche-911-turbo-cabriolet-992.html

martinbo · Jan 1, 2023

How does a scalpel steer?

Ghost1 · Jan 1, 2023

Many complain about the road noise the 911 makes even for a sportscar. They need to reduce it.
Sl will be more comfortable.

Rolf · Jan 1, 2023

AMG have played a fine line between sportiness and comfort with this new SL. It may not be the most dynamic convertible to drive in this class or maybe even the most comfortable as in older SL models but it does seem to have many journalists confused where its supposed to be, in the sport car zone or in the GT zone.

Rolf · Jan 1, 2023

martinbo said:
How does a scalpel steer?

Sharp enough to cut a line in the road lol

Centurion · Jan 1, 2023

Rolf said:
AMG have played a fine line between sportiness and comfort with this new SL. It may not be the most dynamic convertible to drive in this class or maybe even the most comfortable as in older SL models but it does seem to have many journalists confused where its supposed to be, in the sport car zone or in the GT zone.

Solution: The car should not have worn an AMG badge.

It is an S500 cabrio in drag.

GTA45E · Jan 1, 2023

^Not true at all. The SL is not a "run of the mill" Mercedes.
The new SL is engineered from the ground up by AMG and the SL is right where it needs to be with its position in the lineup and its clientele base. It is not overly sporty as a Porsche but it is a step up from the previous generation in sportiness.

dalab · Jan 1, 2023

GTA45E said:
Giant Test: 2023 Mercedes-AMG SL63 R232 vs. 2023 Porsche 911 Turbo Cabriolet 992

-->> https://drives.today/articles/1039/...-vs-2023-porsche-911-turbo-cabriolet-992.html

According to this, it's better than I expected, whenever you put a car head to head with the 911 turbo the masks fall off, this does not seem to be the case, fulfilling the SL's goal of being sportier and with great handling, also as cruiser.

*Well, I wish the Panmericana mask had fallen off along with those front lights that, next to the Porsche, are more in evidence of their little resistance to the passage of time, they are all over the line and get boring fast, they are not so "epic" as to the SL
It is not that it has to be epic either, the SL caste has always shown stylized sobriety in the lights, that must be what I do not see here

Rolf · Jan 1, 2023

Centurion said:
Solution: The car should not have worn an AMG badge.

It is an S500 cabrio in drag.

Maybe that will be the Maybach SL.

Merc1 · Jan 1, 2023

The SL is not a S Cabrio in drag. My goodness. Total left field nonsense.

M

Rolf · Jan 1, 2023

Merc1 said:
The SL is not a S Cabrio in drag. My goodness. Total left field nonsense.

M

Lateral cornering of 1.04g is definitely not an S500 in drag, that is supercar cornering from the SL63 and even better than the BMW M8 Comp coupe (1.03g). It has a higher top speed than the M8 Comp also (196mph vs 189mph)

Specifications

2022 Mercedes-AMG SL63
Vehicle Type: front-engine, all-wheel-drive, 2+2-passenger, 2-door convertible
PRICE
Base/As Tested: $180,450/$204,885
Options: Exterior Carbon Fiber package, $5300; Burmester 3-D surround-sound stereo, $4500; AMG cross-spoke black wheels, $3300; Monza Grey Magno paint, $3250; AMG Aerodynamics package, $2850; Driver Assistance package with active safety equipment (distance assist, steering assist, lane-change assist, emergency-stop assist, speed-limit assist, brake assist with cross-traffic function, evasive steering assist, lane-keeping assist, blind-spot monitoring, route-based speed adaptation), $1950; Performance trim line (front-axle lift system, surround-view camera, active LED headlights, head-up display), $1800; AMG Night package, $1300; microfiber headliner, $1600
ENGINE
twin-turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 32-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, direct fuel injection
Displacement: 243 in3, 3982 cm3
Power: 577 hp @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 590 lb-ft @ 2500 rpm
TRANSMISSION
9-speed automatic
CHASSIS
Suspension, F/R: multilink/multilink
Brakes, F/R: 15.4-inch vented, cross-drilled disc; 14.2-inch vented, cross-drilled disc
Tires: Michelin Pilot Sport 4S
F: 275/35ZR21 (103Y) M01A
R: 305/30ZR21 (104Y) M02A
DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 106.3 in
Length: 185.2 in
Width: 75.4 in
Height: 53.5 in
Curb Weight: 4305 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS
60 mph: 3.0 sec
100 mph: 7.1 sec
1/4-Mile: 11.2 sec @ 125 mph
130 mph: 12.2 sec
150 mph: 17.5 sec
170 mph: 25.6 sec
Results above omit 1-ft rollout of 0.2 sec.
Rolling Start, 5–60 mph: 3.9 sec
Top Gear, 30–50 mph: 2.6 sec
Top Gear, 50–70 mph: 2.9 sec
Top Speed (mfr's claim): 196 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 150 ft
Braking, 100–0 mph: 297 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft Skidpad: 1.04 g
C/D FUEL ECONOMY
Observed: 18 mpg
EPA FUEL ECONOMY
Combined/City/Highway: 16/14/21 mpg

Specifications

2020 BMW M8 Competition
VEHICLE TYPE
front-engine, rear/all-wheel-drive, 4-passenger, 2-door coupe
PRICE AS TESTED
$175,745 (base price: $147,995)
ENGINE TYPE
twin-turbocharged and intercooled V-8, aluminum block and heads
Displacement
268 in3, 4395 cm3
Power
617 hp @ 6000 rpm
Torque
553 lb-ft @ 1800 rpm
TRANSMISSION
8-speed automatic
CHASSIS
Suspension (F/R): multilink/multilink
Brakes (F/R): 15.7-in vented, cross-drilled, carbon-ceramic disc/15.0-in vented, cross-drilled carbon-ceramic disc
Tires: Pirelli P Zero PZ4; F: 275/35ZR-20 102Y ★ R: 285/35ZR-20 104Y ★
DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 111.3 in
Length: 191.8 in
Width: 75.1 in
Height: 53.6 in
Passenger volume: 81 ft3
Trunk volume: 15 ft3
Curb weight: 4251 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS
60 mph: 2.5 sec
100 mph: 6.3 sec
150 mph: 15.5 sec
170 mph: 22.0 sec
Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 3.5 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 2.3 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 2.4 sec
1/4 mile: 10.7 sec @ 129 mph
Top speed (mfr's claim): 189 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 146 ft
Braking, 100–0 mph: 288 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 1.03 g
Standing-start accel times omit 1-ft rollout of 0.2 sec.
C/D FUEL ECONOMY
Observed: 15 mpg
EPA FUEL ECONOMY
Combined/city/highway: 22/19/26 mpg