Giulia [Official] Alfa Romeo Giulia


The Alfa Romeo Giulia is a compact executive car produced by Alfa Romeo. Known internally as the Type 952, it was unveiled in June 2015, with market launch scheduled for February 2016, and it is the first saloon offered by Alfa Romeo after the production of the 159 ended in 2011.
All manufacturers quote lap times with factory drivers under perfect conditions. Why can't Alfa? It's just to show what this car is capable of in the right hands and clearly it's capable of a lot. I'm a German car fan by heart but the Giulia is one hell of a kit. Also show me one manufacturer that wouldn't be proud of a 7:39 min on the Ring even if Jesus himself was at the wheel.

Oh boy! Is it really that hard to grasp??? It is totally fine that Alfa is posting/publishing this very good Ring time of its factory driver! And I praise it, that Guila is such a fast car. Well done, Alfa (y)
But it is shabby to put this perfect time side by side with times from competitors, which have been recorded under totally different/worse conditions, just to let shine their product much more.
Alfa does not have to stand for that! That's unworthy for Alfa.
 
Oh boy! Is it really that hard to grasp??? It is totally fine that Alfa is posting/publishing this very good Ring time of its factory driver! And I praise it, that Guila is such a fast car. Well done, Alfa (y)
But it is shabby to put this perfect time side by side with times from competitors, which have been recorded under totally different/worse conditions, just to let shine their product much more.
Alfa does not have to stand for that! That's unworthy for Alfa.

How do you know their times were recorded in worse conditions? you were there? those are factory times done by the manufacturers so i'm pretty sure they made sure it were recorded under the perfect conditions.
 
for those interested really to interior quality, pls check by minute 6:30.
Furocia company speaks about his Giulia interior cockpit..
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not too bad...
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Live from the Frankfurt Motor Show: Alfa Romeo Giulia TI Super
(Stunning new Giulia was shown at Frankfurt alongside the superb original 1960's version - Rolf)

Alfa Romeo is showcasing the long-awaited Giulia at the Frankfurt Motor Show. The only version of the new sedan that’s been unveiled so far is the range-topping Quadrifoglio Verde that’s aimed squarely at the BMW M3 and the Mercedes-AMG C63. Tuned with input from Ferrari, its 510-horsepower V6 engine gives it a power advantage over its German rivals. Only time will tell if the Giulia can walk the walk, however.

To celebrate the occasion, Alfa is showcasing a 1960s Giulia TI Super next to the new Giulia. Bringing the Super all the way from Milan is also a discreet way of telling the show-going public that, in spite of a long hiatus, Alfa has been building sports sedans for much longer than BMW and Mercedes-Benz.

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375 kW, 600 Nm all for just 8.5 l/100 km combined cycle. Yeah right - pull the other leg.
 
There is a rumour on the net. A testdriver from Continental who works at N-ring say's the laptime is a fake. Alfa started to test the car 1-2 months ago and hasn't even done wintertests. FIAT doesnt have money left and they are panicking to get the car on the market as quick as possible and doing everything they can to sell the car..They don't even care if they don't have the time to develop the car further.

So we might need a video from Alfa to confirm the laptime otherwise this might just be all about markeeting and attempt to sell the car.
 
There is a rumour on the net. A testdriver from Continental who works at N-ring say's the laptime is a fake. Alfa started to test the car 1-2 months ago and hasn't even done wintertests. FIAT doesnt have money left and they are panicking to get the car on the market as quick as possible and doing everything they can to sell the car..They don't even care if they don't have the time to develop the car further.

So we might need a video from Alfa to confirm the laptime otherwise this might just be all about markeeting and attempt to sell the car.

if this will be true, they will bankrupt during winter since I don't think that few hundred Quadrifoglio sold worldwide will solve their "rumored" cash problems:) (since regular Giulia will arrive well after winter..).This car is moving interest I see...
 
There is a rumour on the net. A testdriver from Continental who works at N-ring say's the laptime is a fake. Alfa started to test the car 1-2 months ago and hasn't even done wintertests. FIAT doesnt have money left and they are panicking to get the car on the market as quick as possible and doing everything they can to sell the car..They don't even care if they don't have the time to develop the car further.

So we might need a video from Alfa to confirm the laptime otherwise this might just be all about markeeting and attempt to sell the car.

So this is what Autocar has to report. Looks like a launch only next year this time! What is actually being launched here?

Autocar said:
The crucial new Alfa Romeo Giulia will reach the UK in September of next year, it has been confirmed. The car will spearhead Alfa's rebirth as a maker of lightweight, high-tech and sporty rear-wheel drive driver’s cars, and recently made its public debut at the Frankfurt motor show.

A rival to the likes of the BMW 3 Series and Mercedes C-Class, the Giulia is the first of eight new Alfas planned to launch over the next three years as part of a €5 billion investment in the 105-year-old Alfa brand.

By the end of 2018, Alfa wants to be selling 400,000 cars a year, a six-fold increase on last year’s levels. A full relaunch in North America is part of this Alfa reboot, which Fiat Chrysler Automobiles (FCA) boss Sergio Marchionne said was only now possible due to FCA’s investment potential and global distribution network. Such a dramatic reboot, added Marchionne, was: “the only opportunity” for Alfa to prosper.

The Giulia was revealed at a special event at Alfa's refurbished Arese headquarters on the outskirts of Milan in range-topping Quadrifoglio Verde guise. A Ferrari-developed new aluminium biturbo 3.0-litre V6 engine with 503bhp powers this flagship model, something that instantly gives Alfa a full-blooded BMW M3 rival.

Alfa plans to sell the new models on their driving purity, character, charm, emotion and style under a new strapline ‘'la meccanica delle emozioni’, translating as ‘the mechanics of emotion'. Each will be built to meet a five-point criteria: innovative engines, 50/50 weight distribution, advanced technical solutions, best-in-class power-to-weight ratios, and distinctive Italian design.

Alfa boss Harald Wester says none of its rivals are able to make cars as striking, driver-focused and emotional as Alfa intends to due to its history and strength of the brand. Indeed, he went as far as to say at the Arese unveiling that premium cars today were “boring” and lacked soul. He was also recently quoted as saying German premium models, in particular, were “cold and clinical”.

There was also an admission that Alfa’s recent models have not “respected” the brand’s past and what it stood for, so it “all needed to be rebuilt from the ground up”. “This is a complete renaissance for Alfa”, he added.

The new Alfas have been developed in secret over the past two years at a new dedicated facility away from the main FCA group and any internal pressures of conceptual barriers. Wester said the hand-picked 600 or so staff at the facility, which is understood to be based near Ferrari and Maserati in Modena, Italy, were simply told to “respect the brand, innovate and be revolutionary” in making the next-generation of Alfas.

He added: “These are car enthusiasts making cars for car enthusiasts. In the long run, loving cars makes a difference.”

The Giulia, like all the forthcoming Alfas, is built around a rear-wheel drive architecture (all-wheel drive will be optional in most markets) that’s understood to be loosely derived from the Maserati Ghibli and has claimed best-in-class torsional rigidity.

Making the new models rear-wheel drive was the first decision the skunkworks team took, according to the head of the division Philippe Krief. The Giulia project can be traced as far back as 2009 in various guises, however.

There are few hard numbers confirmed by Alfa at present (FCA boss Sergio Marchionne said reeling off too many stats would make the car seem “cold”), although the firm has revealed some of the mechanical make-up of the car.

The suspension system is all-new and constructed from aluminium. The front suspension is a double-wishbone set-up that includes a new ‘semi-virtual steering axis’ designed to improve steering accuracy, keeping the car accurate and stable at high speeds and allowing precise steering feel even under hard cornering or high lateral acceleration. Unlike the 4C sports car, the Giulia will get a power steering system, which Krief claimed would have “the most direct ratio on the market”.

The rear suspension, which was the first component of the Giulia to be designed, is a new multi-link system, which Alfa calls ‘Alfalink’, allowing for independent control of the wheels from the body. Krief described it as “beautiful, simple and functional”. Electronic adaptive dampers feature all round.

The best-in-class power-to-weight ratio is said by Alfa to be around 3kg per horsepower, meaning the Giulia should weigh in at around 1500kg in Quadrifoglio Verde form. For comparison, the BMW M3 weighs 1580kg.

The Giulia makes extensive use of lightweight materials, including aluminum, carbonfibre, and aluminium and plastic composite. Aluminium is used to construct the suspension, doors, wings, sub-frames, and brake calipers. Carbonfibre is used for the bonnet, roof, prop shaft and front seat structures, and the composite for the rear cross-member. Further weight reduction comes from the use of carbon ceramic brakes on the Quadrifoglio Verde model.

The location of the lighter materials has also helped Alfa achieve its 50/50 weight distribution target, with major components located between the axles, and the lightest materials used at either end of the car, such as aluminum for the suspension.

The Quadrifoglio Verde’s twin-turbo 3.0-lite V6 engine is also a lightweight unit. It features cylinder deactivation and can, said Alfa, be "surprisingly fuel efficient" while still offering "fun and identity". Krief added that the Ferrari-developed unit offered "fantastic torque all through the rev range and no turbo lag in any gear". A 0-62mph time of 3.9sec has been quoted for this model, which is hooked up to a six-speed manual gearbox as standard.

The Ferrari link to the engine could prove to be significant again in the future as the rumoured base powerplant in the new Ferrari Dino model that is understood to be in development for a 2018 launch.

Alfa has yet to confirm any other launch engines for the Giulia. However, the new V6 will be one of two engines built at a new €500 million facility Termoli facility in Italy with an annual capacity of 200,000 units. The other is set to be an "advanced, high-output, four-cylinder engine developed for Alfa Romeo", which expected to be the next-generation replacement for the highly regarded 1750 TBi engine currently used in the Alfa 4C. It could produce as much as 300bhp in its highest state of tune.

Previous indications from Alfa have pointed towards an engine range that will also include four- and six-cylinder diesel engines.

Krief said the Giulia would do without “invasive” electronic systems that inhibited the rear-wheel drive driving character of the car. There will also be no autonomous driving features, Wester revealed previously, because it would not be in tune with the brand’s character.

It will, however, feature a Torque Vectoring System in the rear differential to split torque independently between the rear wheels, and a new Integrated Brake System that combines stability control with the servo brake from what Alfa claims is improved feel, responses and reduced braking distances.

An Active Aero Splitter at the front helps aid the Giulia’s aerodynamic design, and the system, like the other electronics, is controlled by Chassis Domain Control electronic ‘brain’, tasked with ensuring driving pleasure and performance for the driver.

On the Giulia's styling, Alfa design boss Lorenzo Ramacotti said the car was "not over-styled, which is very easy to do today. It can be defined with just three strokes.

"Form and function doesn't mean it's cold. It's an Alfa, an object of desire that you experience, not an ornament to look at."

The new Alfa has a wheelbase that’s claimed to be the longest in its class, but with a body that’s one of the shortest. Rear cabin space is said to be impressive, although there’s no word on boot capacity.

The Giulia’s cabin is built around the driver, and features materials including leather, wood, fabric and carbonfibre. There are only two main control interfaces inside, both rotary knobs rather than buttons or touchscreens. One is for a new infotainment suite, and the other is a DNA driving mode select system, revised for the Giulia to include a new race mode.

Eight new Alfas

The Giulia will be the first of eight new Alfas to launch over the next three years, most of which will be derived from the same rear-wheel-drive platform and all built in Italy. The company has not yet confirmed the other models, although a slide during the Milan presentation showed in which segments they would sit.

The saloon will be joined by another Giulia bodystyle, most likely a coupe, and in time a larger rear-drive saloon to do battle with theBMW 5 Series.

Two SUVs are also planned in the new Alfa line-up, one potentially a version of the Maserati Levante that is due to be launched in 2016, and another smaller model derived from the Levante.

The next-generation Giulietta range will also include hatchback and saloon versions, the latter aimed chiefly at North America. The Giulietta will switch to rear-drive for its second generation on shortened Giulia underpinnings. Speaking at the Geneva motor show earlier this year, Sergio Marchionne hinted at this, saying: "Whether the Giulietta stays as front wheel drive is a question to be seen. It may not."

The eighth model will be a new “speciality” offering in the vein of theAlfa Romeo 4C. The 4C coupe and Spider will carry on in this period, although there will be no Mito replacement before 2018.

On the Mito, Marchionne said in March it would not be rear-wheel drive in the future. “The brand needs a point of entry for younger buyers. I like the Mito. And BMW is now front-wheel drive. We have to look at where we cross the line between B/C segments [between front and rear wheel drive] but front and rear wheel drive can co-exist.”

A closer relationship with fellow FCA brand Jeep also seems more likely, creating a kind of Italian Jaguar Land Rover for Alfa Romeo-Jeep.

Alfa learns lessons from its past

Speaking earlier this year, Harald Wester admitted that Alfa had "over promised and under-delivered" in the past.

He said that Alfas must once again "put the driver at the centre, provide an exceptional driving experience while being inclusive and egalitarian, and display authentic heritage”.

Wester said: “These are not cars to be driven, but to drive. We want owners to feel that they’re an integral and indispensable part of the machine. The dynamic element is an important portion of what we do.”

Wester is under no illusions about the challenge. “We’re living in a world of fierce competition,” he said. “What is absolutely clear is that every car must be significantly better than the target competitors.”

These are “the three German brands, plus Lexus in the US. But the worst strategy is to position against another product. It’s about finding out what the customers want".

Alfa acknowledged that striking past models such as Brera, 159 and Spider had “missed the historical DNA of the brand”. This, it admitted, had enabled “our German competitors to build up a phenomenal lead over us over a number of years”.

The company says the Alfa Romeo 4C marks the start of a return to this process and is “the perfect embodiment of the brand’s DNA”.
 
Only true and fair are the ones from Sportauto, the rest is rubbish.
PS Savage, stop being italian for a moment and think about it ;)

:)

you are right from a rationale point of view. I believe as you, in what I can see and touch. And I see a great car, this is why I am quite happy with the final results they gained.Ring or not Ring .
And if they made 7:39 for real, it is sure not with a Continental tires equipped car :D Possibly with Trofeo R!
What I still don't believe because it is more important to me :
Din weight 1524 kg...(I will never believe these numbers)
Consumption numbers
best handling of the category (hard to believe compared to M3)
that the car is really made by ALFA. Hard to believe:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::LOL::LOL:
 
its normal that we doubt the lap times because:
1- we don't have a benchmark for older generation Alfa where this car could've naturally progressed.
2- The lap time suggested is very very high up there with true sports cars with dedicated engineering over the past decades ... 991 GT3 and such
3- The claimed number overshadows some higher products from the same group company higher in the hierarchy ... Ferrari's and Maseratis.

I don't disregard it. I'll just wait for more info.
 
Faster than a GT3 on the ring is a pretty bold claim. I really hope Alfa don't disappoint, I truly want this car to succeed.

100% sure that picture with Nring times is BS. There is absolutely no way.

Mark this post down! BMW M4 > Alfa in real side by side tests.

7:39? Yeah right... **** you Alfa Romeo.

This so much! F*** YOU ALFA!

I don't disregard it. I'll just wait for more info.

Disregard it, it's pure marketing BS, like the whole Guilia reveal has been so far with only the craziest version to be seen. Just like Jaguar pretty much, constantly highlighting the lightweight construction of the XE while in reality a 3er is much lighter.
 
Mercedes is trying by so many years to arrive at the level of the M3 with their AMG C series. And step by step, effort by effort they are closer and closer but still not at the same level of handling or lap results .Am I right? So if Giulia will even come close to the M3 and not win (and so, close to both them), it will be still an huge step forward for Alfa. Just my 2 cents.
 

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