Accord [Official] 2013 Honda Accord

[Giannis]

Guys, let's agree to disagree and move on, shall we?

 

[K-A]

PLEASE! Nobody in this "Accord/Camry" segment buys the car they think looks the best. It's all about brand, reliability, practicality, MPG, etc. The last thing that's important to this market is looks. The Camry will always sell how it does no matter what it looks like, as will the Accord, etc.

Design is not measured by sales in many cases, the most being economy "generic" cars.

Yes, styling won't hurt, as evidenced by the new Sonata, and can only help, but it's not like a terrible looking Accord or Camry will get people to stop buying them, not in the least.

 

[Levi68]

PLEASE! Nobody in this "Accord/Camry" segment buys the car they think looks the best. It's all about brand, reliability, practicality, MPG, etc. The last thing that's important to this market is looks. The Camry will always sell how it does no matter what it looks like, as will the Accord, etc.

Design is not measured by sales in many cases, the most being economy "generic" cars.

Yes, styling won't hurt, as evidenced by the new Sonata, and can only help, but it's not like a terrible looking Accord or Camry will get people to stop buying them, not in the least.

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[rollo]

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I wonder how many of you that think this car looks like crap are old enough to actually be in the demographic for which this car is intended. This looks doesn't matter chatter is complete nonsense.

 

[Levi68]

I wonder how many of you that think this car looks like crap are old enough to actually be in the demographic for which this car is intended. This looks doesn't matter chatter is complete nonsense.

I did not mean that. Just agreed with "design is not measured by sales" as many ugly cars sell well, and very many beautiful cars don't sell well.

 

[rollo]

I did not mean that. Just agreed with "design is not measured by sales" as many ugly cars sell well, and very many beautiful cars don't sell well.

10-4 and sorry for mis-reading your intent.

What completely surprises me regarding the appearance debate of the new Accord is that it seems like some folks can't appreciate that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. 10 years of Accord sales = roughly 3 million cars. I simply cannot believe that the majority of those customers purchased the car in spite of its looks.

 

[Levi68]

10-4 and sorry for mis-reading your intent.

What completely surprises me regarding the appearance debate of the new Accord is that it seems like some folks can't appreciate that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. 10 years of Accord sales = roughly 3 million cars. I simply cannot believe that the majority of those customers purchased the car in spite of its looks.

I agree. I always "spotted" the Accord, any generation it might be. It has some sporty flare, and plus to that good reliability. Just a very good value, if you are not getting a 3 Series.

 

[Merc1]

Nobody here said that sales were going to be affected by its looks, did they? Sales were brought in as some measure of success and what I (not sure about anyone else) was saying is that sales don't prove anything regarding design or styling because again, and again, middle of road America buys ugly and/or bland cars because of reliability, quality and durability. Looks aren't not even on the chart when you're buying something that looks like an Accord, Camry or the worst of them all, the Corolla. Yeah people buy in spite of looks. If you find a Camry or Accord buyer who bought based on looks I will show you a buyer as rare as hens teeth. People in the U.S. mindlessly buy Camrys, Accords, and Corollas based on their quality reputation, not because of their styling. Like I said before the Accord has looked a lot worse than it does now and it sold better.

With cars like the Fusion, Sonata, Passat and the new Mazda 6 around and/or coming to market, the buyers that like style will be going elsewhere, the ones buy buy according to Consumer Reports recommendations and other non-car person data will be waiting for the Camry or Accord to arrive from KY or OH.

No way in the world a person with regular vision bought this:

Thinking this is a good looking car. It came down price, reliability, quality not anything else. If someone thinks this is a good looking car they simply don't know what a good looking car is and/or they're not a car person.

Previous Accord looked better than most of the generations before it, and that either says a lot or not much depending on how you look at it. With this new one, IMO they've stepped back just as Toyota did with the design of the new Camry.


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[rollo]

If you find a Camry or Accord buyer who bought based on looks I will show you a buyer as rare as hens teeth. People in the U.S. mindlessly buy Camrys, Accords, and Corollas based on their quality reputation, not because of their styling. Like I said before the Accord has looked a lot worse than it does now and it sold better.


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The hens teeth line is funny Merc1.

And I didn't suggest that they buy these cars based on its looks. Very true that it is not as important in this class as value, safety, reliability, residual value and the like. What I am saying is that the vast majority of Accord buyers would not agree with your assertion that they are "dishwater ugly".

 

[K-A]

I don't think most Accord buyers would say that they find their cars generally "hot" or "attractive" looking either. I know quite a few Accord drivers, and I don't think a mention of looks has ever come out of their mouths.

Face it, an Accord or Camry can look like dung and still sell. Good looks are a perk, but it's literally impossible to design around the fact that these cars will sell like hotcakes due to their economical values for those who could give a damn about cars.

 

[Merc1]

The hens teeth line is funny Merc1.

And I didn't suggest that they buy these cars based on its looks. Very true that it is not as important in this class as value, safety, reliability, residual value and the like. What I am saying is that the vast majority of Accord buyers would not agree with your assertion that they are "dishwater ugly".

LOL I didn't say dishwater ugly. I said dull as dishwater, big difference actually, but I think we get each other on this.

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[Levi68]

Maybe not good looking, but not really ugly (eg. Pontiac Aztek). The main point of these cars is to move from A to B. They are not cars for "enthusiasts", but nothing would prevent me have such a car, while an SLS is in the garage for WE. In fact I don't know why we are discussing design about it, it is not a premium or an exotic, where design is a far more important factor.

 

[bombardier01]

2013 Honda Accord Hybrid?






http://auto.sympatico.ca/autoradar/9675/honda-accord-plug-in-2013-une-neuvieme-vie-electrique/3#glr

 

[Gianclaudio]

I think I almost saw an empty space where they could fit another button on the steering wheel. Almost.

 

[Merc1]

I wonder why Honda and Hyundai have to make their hybrid version so much uglier than the standard car. The wheels I could see because of airflow, but the front of the Sonata and now this Accord Hybrid are just the worst.

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[Mr. Mercedes]

OMG that front end is horrendous. You expect this sort of crap from the Koreans. But Honda... Oh how you have fallen from grace.

Interior looks ok.

 

[HighestOfHigh]

Good find Bombardier01! That might just be their plug in hybrid model.

Amazingly ugly front....Not sure what they were thinking!

2013 Honda Accord Hybrid?
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[HighestOfHigh]

2013 Honda Accord PHEV Hybrid Caught With No Camo​

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Honda already showed production-ready versions of its 2013 Accord coupe and sedan, but it hasn’t shown the finalized version of the new 2014 Accord Plug-In Hybrid (PHEV). No worries: our spy photographer recently caught an Accord Plug-In Hybrid completely devoid of camouflage. Thanks to Honda’s Earth Dreams PR offensive, we already knew a considerable amount about the 2013 Accord Plug-In Hybrid’s powertrain, but we didn’t know what cosmetic tweaks were in store for the plug-in midsize sedan. The Accord Plug-In hybrid receives an unique front fascia, complete with a larger grille opening, a chrome grille garnish with blue accents (a nod to the 2012 Civic Hybrid, perhaps), and a new lower grille opening, whose swollen fog lamp surrounds remind us of those shown on this year’s Accord Coupe concept. Revisions made elsewhere on the car are rather minute. A blue-ringed flap ahead of the driver’s door appears to give access to the Accord Plug-In Hybrid’s charging port, while other modifications – notably the odd sawblade-shaped wheels, sharper corner edges on the rear bumper, and modest decklid spoiler – appear to be aerodynamic aids, helping the Accord efficiently slice through air as it rolls down the road.

As we’ve previously reported, the 2014 Accord PHEV pairs an Atkinson-cycle 2.0-liter I-4 with two electric motors, one tasked with regenerating electricity for the lithium-ion battery pack, and another primarily assigned to propelling the vehicle. Honda’s preliminary specs suggest that drive motor is rated at close to 161 hp, and acts as the primary means of propulsion if the battery is fully charged. On start-up, the Accord Plug-In Hybrid functions as a pure EV, and can provide a pure EV range of 10-15 miles before using the 2.0-liter I-4 to generate additional electricity. At speeds over 40 mph, the engine can directly drive the front wheels through a fixed gear ratio – a feature that seems to be unique to Honda’s PHEV system.

Honda began building non-hybrid 2013 Accord models in September, but we’ll have to wait a little longer to see the 2014 Accord Plug-In Hybrid arrive in our showrooms. Honda’s initial estimates suggest the Accord PHEV will likely go on sale in our market in early 2013.


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[K-A]

Ack! What the hell were they thinking with that front indeed!

What a mess, what a goofy, insanely cluttered up nonsensical on that EV mug. To top it all off, it looks like it has one of those old style squiggly mustaches on top of the dopey smile.