Cayenne Next Generation Porsche Cayenne (spy pics & info)

[klier]

I drive the Cayenne GTS a lot. Fantastic car. I have not driven the X5 M yet, but if it's roughly the same car but with 150 hp more, it's just mindblowing.

There no option for going off road in Holland, and it's not even allowed anywhere. Only maybe on special tracks or for people who have to use the beach. SUV drivers in my country don't go off road. Ever. It's important how the car behaves on a smooth road and on the highway here. No dirt roads.

 

[Sayyaaf]

Interesting Klier, never knew that you are not allowed to offroad in NL, is there any reason ?

 

[Mr Robert]

Interesting Klier, never knew that you are not allowed to offroad in NL, is there any reason ?

Every square inch is populated?

Jokes aside, in many European countries it is prohibited to drive offroad. However, you are of course allowed to drive on your own land.

 

[Sayyaaf]

I guess Britain is not part of Europe anymore

 

[Mr Robert]

I guess Britain is not part of Europe anymore

No, they drive on the wrong side of the road and are hence not welcome anymore

If I remember correctly, there are a lot of restrictions regarding offroading in the UK too, but I guess I'm not going to pawn my head over it.

 

[coolraoul]

Honestly? I give the car a second glance for on-road presence but nothing more. Most of the GTSs in SA were specced with steel springs if memory serves... this, along with the 20inch wheels, severly hampers dirt road ability.

So it lacks the Utility I find to be a necessary attribute of a decent SUV and thus amounts to nothing more than a curiosity to be quite frank.

I fail to see why a Cayenne should be able to go off-road. I find it to be totally unnecessary, and to be honest, a severe mistake from Porsche to invest so much in the off-road capability of the Cayenne (one of the reasons why a Cayenne weights more than the Earth and the Moon together).

Those SUVS are fitted with 355 wide road-only tyres, extra-fragile 20" wheels, mud-sensitive inner carpets, a lack of proper underside protections, an obvious lack of all-round visibility. And be sure that if Porsche discovers you put a wheel on the mud, the waranty will be voided even faster than a liter of petrol would be sucked in the motor.

A Cayenne is not about off-roading, it's about bragging about who has the bigger air intakes and the more massive wheels in order to impress the neighbour/wife/employees. So it drives relatively well for a 3-tons mammoth, but even that is of no use to most of the clients.
The rest being Porsche-clients needing something more practical than a 911 to tow the boat and take the childs, and couldn't care less about off-road.

If I had to buy a Cayenne (which will never happen), I'd undoubtedly buy a GTS: it's less ugly and lower so certainly feels less heavy on the steering.

And the auto-box is so rubbish I'd definitely take it in manual, despite my love for the V8-slushbox combo.

 

[martinbo]

I think people have this massive misconception about "off-roading". I'm not talking about rock-clambering on the Rubicon trail or severe mud-work in Botswana.

Porsche will not invalidate the warranty if a Cayenne "puts a wheel in the mud". Not down here at least, where it's still legal to drive off tarmac, provided you observe the laws applicable.

Hey, I live in Africa - we have large cities as well as wide open spaces - and SUVs make a lot of sense down here. In 3.5 hours time I'll be driving through a nature reserve looking at Giraffe, Zebra and other antelope. On a dirty, sometimes muddy track. A Porsche Cayenne would be perfect in these conditions. A low station wagon wouldn't - it'd scrape its belly and get knocked by even small rocks in the road.

Of course, if said station wagon would only ever drive on the road then, erm, what do you really need an SUV for?

 

[Human]

I fail to see why a Cayenne should be able to go off-road. I find it to be totally unnecessary, and to be honest, a severe mistake from Porsche to invest so much in the off-road capability of the Cayenne (one of the reasons why a Cayenne weights more than the Earth and the Moon together).

I am with you 100%. My view, plain and simple is that BMW and Porsche compete head on, thus whilst BMW admit (Through designation SAV) they do not produce real off road SUV's why do Porsche go for the off road image?

There is the Touareg, Disco 4, Land Cruiser Prado, Jeep etc. all catering for the specific need and used/bought for that.
Porsche needs to join the "apples with apples" or performance SUV/SAV league and leave the rough stuff to the vehicles mentioned.

 

[coolraoul]

Of course, if said station wagon would only ever drive on the road then, erm, what do you really need an SUV for?

Well, to have the bigger, shinier, most impressive car of course. With the nice Porsche logo in front.

And, for some mothers, because they will safe in an heavy, roll-over prone, slow-braking behemoth.

 

[MikeJ]

Interesting Klier, never knew that you are not allowed to offroad in NL, is there any reason ?

Looking at the road map of NL it looks like there isn't a single spot in the country where you would be more than 1 km from the nearest road. Not much point in off-roading I suppose.

 

[coolraoul]

In France it's very restricted too. The reason is that the forests have to be protected against heavy vehickles and the damages they make to the trees, plantations, and ways. And eventually animals.

So you need to go to specificly designed off-road terrains, but the forests and terrains open to the public are forbidden to all motorized vehicles.

 

[Mr Robert]

About the same as in Sweden then, you have to buy land in order to make any use of your SUV... other than the occasional trip on snowy roads (which can just as easily be handled by a 4WD sedan).

 

[MikeJ]

Well, in Finland we have a large network of logging roads which the public can use at their own discretion, and some of them can actually be too much for a regular car. Real off-roading requires landowner's permission though.

 

[bmer]

First official pics or just PS?

First Official Photos of 2011 Porsche Cayenne?

 

[Sayyaaf]

Looks pretty accurate.

 

[LaArtist]

If thats it..its what the first one should always have been..
Thats one meaty truck

 

[Deleted member 25]

Ps.

 

[Mr Robert]

It is now official.

http://www.germancarforum.com/cayenne/32429-official-cayenne-mkii.html