X5 New X5 E70 spy pics - part 4 (pic without camo inside!)

[Michael]

From what I've heard there would be an aero package. And of course the upcoming is / si version will have a slightly different appearence (bumpers & side skirts). But personally I haven't seen the aero and is package yet. Still some issue to work on, hehe.



BMW do not see E90 a risk. It was also an evolutionary approach. Maybe not as ortodox evolution as on E70, but still an evolution. Mind that X5 was a special design by BMW when it came out - and it still is: shape wise. It only needs a new skin - and it is getting one. Btw, when you'll see the E70 IRL you'll realise there is a huge difference between E53 & E70 despite some design elements (lines, rear lights etc) are staying almost the same.

All BMW Group designs since 1992 have been designed under Bangle supervision! Even the latest "not so radical" E90, E92/3, E70, new MINI etc.

But mind that Bangle is not the only one responsible for BMW design: he is more like an executor of the policy that is decided by Management Board - and suggested by leading BMW designers & of course department for design strategy (who incorporates a lot of marketing point of view!). Bangle is the one who guide the design process: he is the link between the designers & the top managment who actually decides designs! Mind that Bangle reports periodically about design development of every BMW Group car to the Management Board who give directions where to go with a specific car design. Mind that car design process is very complicated process which involves - beside normal design work also a strategic design, top management, engineering, financial & marketing decisions.

Btw, I've wrote about new 5er in a new 5er thread (the one with Huckfeldt's CGI).

Enilab thank you for addressing that. I find that very interesting. I knew that my comment on Bangle would spark your comment, which is completely jusitified, on that he is not completely responsible yet he is. The point here is that he is responsible for all the designs so to single him out on the 5er and 7er is just wrong because he is also behind the 6er and the 3er.

I wonder, though, what approach BMW is going to take with the FL on the 5er. I am going to look on the 5er thread for your comments. Thanks Enilab!

 

[EnI]

No problem. But mind that although I know a lot I still do not know everything.

And that decision taking process is extremely dynamic - with a lot of changes, bumpy roads, quick shifts etc. And that some decisions are taken in the last minute. So ...

And that I do not tell you things I was prohibited to reveal.

And that knowing too much makes headache.

 

[PanterroR]

And that knowing too much makes headache.

Then i guess you have headache every day when you hear/read BMW.

 

[Michael]

No problem. But mind that although I know a lot I still do not know everything.

And that decision taking process is extremely dynamic - with a lot of changes, bumpy roads, quick shifts etc. And that some decisions are taken in the last minute. So ...

And that I do not tell you things I was prohibited to reveal.

And that knowing too much makes headache.

Enilab you are the man!!!!!! Just incredible!

 

[EMpower]

Rear lights:
- the white plastic is more inserted in red part - not like on CGI where white part is not fully surrounded with red plastic - especially the part on rear door.
- there are 4 CELIS LED strips present in the red part (just under the white one) - on CGI they are missing
- the outer edge of cluster (the one on the flank) is not so pointed, but a bit more rounded (but not completely round!)

But they got the graphics right.

Are we getting the bright LEDs on the taillights as most other manufacturers are doing on their new cars? Like the E46 3-series convertible.

 

[EnI]

Really - it's so funny to read all the forums - and especially press where one should think they have more insights - and all the Bangle comments.

They obviously think Bangle comes to the designers and says: "Oh, guys let's make a super swooshy-wooshy ultra dynaaaaaamic be-em-dubleya with biiiiiiiig wheels today. An über dynamic car with super sexy lines. And a big butt. Yeah, big wide butt. And big eyebrows. And angry look which is saying 'Move out of my way'. Yeah, let's do it guys. Because it's Tuesday."

Design process is really complicated process with a lot of people involved. While the strategic design decisions are based on future trends prediction, on marketing researches, customer surveys, marketing aspects etc. When the course is decided it's Bangles task to present the course to his under-bosses & designers who bring out the best ideas which are then presented to the Board who decides about the design.

And why specific BMW cars look like like they look is a result of strategic design decision based on marketing aspects (revolution or evolution), design bosses choices (first filter), Board's decision (final filter), engineering aspects (safety, space, weight, aerodynamics, etc), financial aspects (costs of tooling & other engineering) and others.

 

[Michael]

Really - it's so funny to read all the forums - and especially press where one should think they have more insights - and all the Bangle comments.

They obviously think Bangle comes to the designers and says: "Oh, guys let's make a super swooshy-wooshy ultra dynaaaaaamic be-em-dubleya with biiiiiiiig wheels today. An über dynamic car with super sexy lines. And a big butt. Yeah, big wide butt. And big eyebrows. And angry look which is saying 'Move out of my way'. Yeah, let's do it guys. Because it's Tuesday."

Design process is really complicated process with a lot of people involved. While the strategic design decisions are based on future trends prediction, on marketing researches, customer surveys, marketing aspects etc. When the course is decided it's Bangles task to present the course to his under-bosses & designers who bring out the best ideas which are then presented to the Board who decides about the design.

And why specific BMW cars look like like they look is a result of strategic design decision based on marketing aspects (revolution or evolution), design bosses choices (first filter), Board's decision (final filter), engineering aspects (safety, space, weight, aerodynamics, etc), financial aspects (costs of tooling & other engineering) and others.

Classic post!!!

 

[EnI]

Are we getting the bright LEDs on the taillights as most other manufacturers are doing on their new cars? Like the E46 3-series convertible.

No. "Only" CELIS LED strips - which are becoming BMW design trademark.

 

[LaArtist]

Like i said tycoon and just me..i still reserve judgement..
but so far its super nice.. but abit to similar with the old one.. thats my opinion..
but then again.. the only pic we have seen is not enough.. so ile wait..

 

[bmer]

Really - it's so funny to read all the forums - and especially press where one should think they have more insights - and all the Bangle comments.

They obviously think Bangle comes to the designers and says: "Oh, guys let's make a super swooshy-wooshy ultra dynaaaaaamic be-em-dubleya with biiiiiiiig wheels today. An über dynamic car with super sexy lines. And a big butt. Yeah, big wide butt. And big eyebrows. And angry look which is saying 'Move out of my way'. Yeah, let's do it guys. Because it's Tuesday."

Design process is really complicated process with a lot of people involved. While the strategic design decisions are based on future trends prediction, on marketing researches, customer surveys, marketing aspects etc. When the course is decided it's Bangles task to present the course to his under-bosses & designers who bring out the best ideas which are then presented to the Board who decides about the design.

And why specific BMW cars look like like they look is a result of strategic design decision based on marketing aspects (revolution or evolution), design bosses choices (first filter), Board's decision (final filter), engineering aspects (safety, space, weight, aerodynamics, etc), financial aspects (costs of tooling & other engineering) and others.

That Bangle imitation part was too funny! I haven't laughed this much for some time. It was hilarious and you also made a point there. Excellent post, Eni!

 

[klier]

They obviously think Bangle comes to the designers and says: "Oh, guys let's make a super swooshy-wooshy ultra dynaaaaaamic be-em-dubleya with biiiiiiiig wheels today. An über dynamic car with super sexy lines. And a big butt. Yeah, big wide butt. And big eyebrows. And angry look which is saying 'Move out of my way'. Yeah, let's do it guys. Because it's Tuesday."

ROFL!
'...Because it's tuesday'...... Classic

 

[Zafiro]

Saturday, August 05, 2006
EXCLUSIVE: BMW X5 2007 To Be Revealed This Week!

Optional 3rd row seats -- 367Hp 4.8 & 264Hp 3.0 petrol, 272Hp 3.0 twin turbo diesel -- iDrive & Active Steering -- Improved Driving Dynamics -- Sales commence early 2007

Last week, we saw the unveiling of the Audi S3 quattro (click here: Carscoop). Now its time for one the biggest showstoppers in the forthcoming Paris Motor Show: the 2007 BMW X5. According to my sources, Bimmer's second generation luxury SUV is going to be revealed in the middle of the upcoming week. Besides that, I learnt some very intresting facts on the all-new Bavarian SUV.

For the first time, BMW is going to offer an optional third row of seats (suitable for two children) which fold into the floor when not in use. With the two extra seats in their position, the X5's boot space will be a little over 200 litres (VDA) and while folded, about 650 liters!

To fit the extra row of seats, the new X5 has grown in length (about 4.850 mm / 191 inches from 4.677 mm / 183.7 inches). In terms of design, as you can also see from the uncovered spy picture that has leaked in the net (via Autoblog.nl) the 2007 X5 retains most style elements of the current model as BMW decided to follow the road of evolution. All around, the X5's exterior design is more stylish than the model it replaces with softer edges blending with Bangle style flame-surface.

In the interior, the 2007 X5 obtains the new 5 Series dashboard -hopefully with better quality materials. The main differences concern the double side air vents and the wider lower part of the centre console with the controversial i-Drive system. Besides the i-Drive system, the new X5 will come equipped with BMW's Active Steering system which hopefully will not be standard.

In regards to the engine range, the new Bavarian SUV will be presented at the Paris Motor Show with two new petrol engines, the 265 Hp 3.0 6cylinder and the 367 4.8 V8 and one diesel, the highly acclaimed 272 Hp 3.0 twin-turbo 6cylinder. The engine range is expected to grow rapidly after the car starts its career in Europe and the USA in the beginning of 2007 .

Power will be driven to all four wheels through BMW's latest generation xDrive 4wheel drive system. As for driving dynamics, BMW officials promise not only to maintain but to improve the current X5's excellent on-road manners. Stay tuned on Carscoop for more upcoming information concerning Bimmer's all-new 2007 X5.

 

[Centurion]

The car will look sick in black, especially from the rear with its wide ass body and tires.

 

[EnI]

Yep, the baby is coming this week. Like I said - early August. MINI in the mid-August - later this week (Friday) or very early next week (Monday). And the E93 3er cabrio at the end of the August, or very early September. And also before the Paris Auto Show: Rolls-Royce Corniche.

Also this year: 3dr 1er & M5 Touring.

 

[Centurion]

Yep, the baby is coming this week. And the MINI as well.

Sweet. Hopefully the offical shots of the X5 will be nice to. I want to see it in both dark and light colours with painted bumpers.

 

[LaArtist]

i wonder why they call it 4.8 in the X5 and 750 for example..the same engine right??
why not call it X5 5.0 that would be something.. and like a evolution from 4.6-4.8-5.0

 

[Deutsch]

the new e70 looks amazing, the hottest mid/full size SUV there ever was or will be. Hats off and a cheers to BMW for this benchmark SUV

 

[bmer]

i wonder why they call it 4.8 in the X5 and 750 for example..the same engine right??
why not call it X5 5.0 that would be something.. and like a evolution from 4.6-4.8-5.0

That's very logical because the engine displacement is always marked after the model name in X3, X5 and Z4. However the 1, 3, 5, 6 and 7 series cars are named differently. Now 748i wouldn't sound or look as good as 750i, would it?

 

[LaArtist]

lol i understood that the moment i posted this reply..
my bad..

PS
What have you seen that we havent deutsch..sounds like you have seen the car?

 

[Zafiro]

when I wake up tomorrow I will see official images?