911 (992) New Porsche 911 GTS Range (992 Series)


The Porsche 992 is the eighth generation of the Porsche 911 sports car, which was introduced at the Porsche Experience Center in Los Angeles on 27 November 2018. Production: 2018–present
I got a PTS allocation for September GTS rwd manual coupe.

i cant make a decision. Rumors saying that the .2 GTS will be NA , if it is I’ll regret it.

also I’m cross shopping with a GTC4 Lusso..

it’s been 1,5 summers since I sold the panamera and I can’t take it anymore I need a proper car.
My 2 cents:
  1. I'd be gobsmacked if 992.2 GTS goes back to NA, I just can't see the reasoning behind it. The 9A2 3.0 biturbo is well-entrenched and accepted now. It's a fantastic engine in its own right. Because it's still a flat-six, its got plenty character. Sure, it doesn't have the high-rev NA histrionics of the 4.0 litre but it makes up for this with its big numbers - that 570 Nm slug is the headline figure. In the real world, that guy in the GT3 wouldn't see which way you went. My final piece of input is that this is not the same situation as it is with 982's GTS 2.5 4 cyl turbo vs. GTS 4.0 6 cyl NA. The backlash against the turbo fours in the 982 was because these engines - despite their much-improved performance - had characters so at odds with the Porsche experience that customers had become accustomed to. This degree of separation isn't nearly as prevalent in the 992. It's still a Porsche flat-six and its mag-f#cking-nificent in its own right. I hear it's even better in 992 GTS.

  2. Please, do yourself and the car a favour and change that order to PDK. K, I used be one of those "manual-4-ever, heel-n-toe fanatics" and I will never buy another manual Porker again (unless the impossible happens and I can find and afford 997.2 GT3 RS). I assure you, you'll have more fun with PDK with a broader spectrum of overall driving pleasure. You can pootle around in town & traffic in your Guccis and Balenciagas - or whatever the f#ck you fashionable types wear these days - in full auto mode with the most convenient and comfortable drive. Then, when opportunity presents itself: Sport Plus, manual mode, launch control etc... Obliterating performance. That's the subjective aspect. The objective aspect? PDK in Porsche's sports cars is the best gearbox money can buy.
Actually, ignore all of the above. Get that GTC4 Lusso so that I won't be as sickeningly envious as I would be had you gotten a 992 GTS because the latter is the single, most complete sports car practical money can buy. If I had the ammo, it would be my first pick.
 
My 2 cents:
  1. I'd be gobsmacked if 992.2 GTS goes back to NA, I just can't see the reasoning behind it. The 9A2 3.0 biturbo is well-entrenched and accepted now. It's a fantastic engine in its own right. Because it's still a flat-six, its got plenty character. Sure, it doesn't have the high-rev NA histrionics of the 4.0 litre but it makes up for this with its big numbers - that 570 Nm slug is the headline figure. In the real world, that guy in the GT3 wouldn't see which way you went. My final piece of input is that this is not the same situation as it is with 982's GTS 2.5 4 cyl turbo vs. GTS 4.0 6 cyl NA. The backlash against the turbo fours in the 982 was because these engines - despite their much-improved performance - had characters so at odds with the Porsche experience that customers had become accustomed to. This degree of separation isn't nearly as prevalent in the 992. It's still a Porsche flat-six and its mag-f#cking-nificent in its own right. I hear it's even better in 992 GTS.

  2. Please, do yourself and the car a favour and change that order to PDK. K, I used be one of those "manual-4-ever, heel-n-toe fanatics" and I will never buy another manual Porker again (unless the impossible happens and I can find and afford 997.2 GT3 RS). I assure you, you'll have more fun with PDK with a broader spectrum of overall driving pleasure. You can pootle around in town & traffic in your Guccis and Balenciagas - or whatever the f#ck you fashionable types wear these days - in full auto mode with the most convenient and comfortable drive. Then, when opportunity presents itself: Sport Plus, manual mode, launch control etc... Obliterating performance. That's the subjective aspect. The objective aspect? PDK in Porsche's sports cars is the best gearbox money can buy.
Actually, ignore all of the above. Get that GTC4 Lusso so that I won't be as sickeningly envious as I would be had you gotten a 992 GTS because the latter is the single, most complete sports car practical money can buy. If I had the ammo, it would be my first pick.
I hear you , but I was so extremely satisfied when I drove my cousins 718 spyder manual. I have never had that much fun in a car.
So I’m trying to replicate that in a car with a back seat.

gtc4 will become a legend one day. I am sure of this . But I will wait for the purosangue to see it fall to 150-160k before I pull the trigger. No way in hell it will drop below 100k no matter how long you keep it. Right now it’s closer to 200k.

Here is article on the .2 going NA. The architecture of the 992 is made to house batteries. I am certain that the .2 turbo will
Be a hybrid. So maybe they will go NA 4L mild hybrid for the GTS ??
Or it’s all just BS.

 
Here is article on the .2 going NA. The architecture of the 992 is made to house batteries. I am certain that the .2 turbo will
Be a hybrid. So maybe they will go NA 4L mild hybrid for the GTS ??
Or it’s all just BS.

Thanks for the article. I saw it a while back and skimmed over it in denial.

To be clear, I'm not saying that the next 992.2 GTS isn't going NA. I'm just saying that I'd be astonished. It is possible that the next step in 911's journey to electrification (God forbid :bigtears:) is hybridisation. So 992.2 is then NA and mild-hybrid with batteries. NA, good. Batteries and hybrid in a 911, not good.
In fact, if such was the case, I'd hit that 992.1 GTS even more now. It'll be the last of its kind.
I hear you , but I was so extremely satisfied when I drove my cousins 718 spyder manual. I have never had that much fun in a car.
So I’m trying to replicate that in a car with a back seat.
I'm sorry to tell you what you already know, deep down. A modern-day 911 is a long way different to a 718 (in any of its forms but especially 718 Spyder). I've driven 981 Cayman & Boxster back-to-back with 991.1 GTS a number of times and already back then the experience - particularly weight, balance and agility - was markedly different.
992 is just another step further away from 718 and for good reason: it remains properly its own thing - a 911. A 718 Spyder is ridiculously fun but it's a special occasion car and, relative to the 992 GTS, a one-trick pony it has to be said. The manual in that 992 GTS will actually emphasise the difference between the two rather than bring them closer which is what you're hoping.
gtc4 will become a legend one day. I am sure of this .
Maybe so, but that's only if you buy it, garage it, mollycoddle it and wait a dozen years for it to become a sentimental favourite. Otherwise, it's one of those Ferraris where you take a bath in depreciation.
 
Thanks for the article. I saw it a while back and skimmed over it in denial.

To be clear, I'm not saying that the next 992.2 GTS isn't going NA. I'm just saying that I'd be astonished. It is possible that the next step in 911's journey to electrification (God forbid :bigtears:) is hybridisation. So 992.2 is then NA and mild-hybrid with batteries. NA, good. Batteries and hybrid in a 911, not good.
In fact, if such was the case, I'd hit that 992.1 GTS even more now. It'll be the last of its kind.

I'm sorry to tell you what you already know, deep down. A modern-day 911 is a long way different to a 718 (in any of its forms but especially 718 Spyder). I've driven 981 Cayman & Boxster back-to-back with 991.1 GTS a number of times and already back then the experience - particularly weight, balance and agility - was markedly different.
992 is just another step further away from 718 and for good reason: it remains properly its own thing - a 911. A 718 Spyder is ridiculously fun but it's a special occasion car and, relative to the 992 GTS, a one-trick pony it has to be said. The manual in that 992 GTS will actually emphasise the difference between the two rather than bring them closer which is what you're hoping.

Maybe so, but that's only if you buy it, garage it, mollycoddle it and wait a dozen years for it to become a sentimental favourite. Otherwise, it's one of those Ferraris where you take a bath in depreciation.
Hmm yeah that’s the thing I’m fearing with the manual on the GTS that it won’t be what the spyder is.. I might as well go selfish with a 2 seater save a chunk of money and get the spyder .
my cousin went spyder - Carrera s - turbo - spyder .. it’s that amazing .
And also I can’t find a manual 992 to test drive ..

The gtc if I buy it I can take the hit.. it will take ages if ever to drop below 100k , even ff’s are above the 100k mark still.

hmm decisions
 
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They need to offer more rims for the Gts spec. There is only one offer which is not blacked as I remember.
 
They need to offer more rims for the Gts spec. There is only one offer which is not blacked as I remember.
You can opt for 2 other non center lock wheels, which would be the smart thing to do, given how much center lock sucks. But yea they should offer more finish options.

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You can opt for 2 other non center lock wheels, which would be the smart thing to do, given how much center lock sucks. But yea they should offer more finish options.

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Is there any other benefit of the center lock except faster change of tires during racing?
 
I wonder how well Crayon will age in terms of remaining "fashionable" in a couple of years' time...

All I need is a RWD Carrera GTS. Sweet spot Porker.
 

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