Motor Trend: BMW 650i vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carrera S


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Chicane Challenger
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http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/convertibles/1208_bmw_650i_mercedes_benz_sl550_porsche_911_carrera_s/specs.html

The automobile has come a long way in the past century and a quarter, and a common refrain in automotive circles these days is that there simply aren't any bad cars. Some cars aren't as good as the competition, but, even at their worst, they're a far sight better than cars of yesteryear. In some cases, such as this one, the cars in a competitive set have gotten so good that finding and weighing faults becomes nearly academic.
With this group, it wasn't an easy task. By their nature, convertibles are a compromise, and these are supposed be sporty, luxurious convertibles. Those priorities don't always play well together, and to make our lives even more difficult, these three cars each take a different approach to balancing the compromise. In the end, each car's strengths and weaknesses balanced well both within the car and against the other two competitors. We were tempted to simply declare each the best for a certain kind of customer, but this being Motor Trend, there must be a winner.

3rd Place: 2013 Mercedes-Benz SL550 Roadster

To me, the new SL is like the best personal assistant or butler. He's always on time, always there when you need him, always prepared, and always ready to serve. But you don't (usually) marry your butler. The SL is smooth, powerful, luxurious, and eminently capable. It just doesn't create an emotional connection. It's more of a business relationship.

Associate road test editor Carlos Lago agrees. "I don't love this car, and it's not for any rational, empirical, or concrete reason. I simply get this clinical feeling; there's little in the way of emotion," he wrote.

That's not to say there weren't parts of the SL we loved. The twin-turbo, 4.7-liter V-8 made friends easily with its blacktop-twisting 516 lb-ft of torque and thunderous exhaust note. That it could nearly run down the Porsche while weighing 700 pounds more left us shaking our heads. Likewise, we were uniformly impressed with the SL's ride quality. On top of that, it offered impressive grip and sharper turn-in than did the Porsche. My notes make reference to a "high-performance cloud."

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We were also impressed with the SL's bag of tricks. The Magic Sky Control roof, which changes from clear to a deep tint at the push of a button, still has us oohing and ahhing. The AirScarf, a vent that blows warm air on the back of your neck, also was a hit. The rest of the seats, with their heaters, coolers, massagers, active bolsters, and more adjustments than I can remember, were a technological tour de force by themselves. The folding hard top, meanwhile, kept the interior so quiet Lago quipped, "I'd believe it was a coupe if you didn't tell me it was a convertible."

That roof, though, has some issues. When folded, it takes up a lot of trunk space. More important, as I discovered at a rather short light in Beverly Hills, it won't work while the car is moving, and it's not the fastest top in the world. Complaints were also logged regarding the steering, which offered amazingly sharp turn-in but little feedback, and unexpectedly ramped up the ratio the more you turned the wheel. At the track, the razor-sharp throttle made mid-corner adjustments very difficult, and all that torque was all too happy to push the tail out when the nannies were benched. Then there's the question of the interior design, which was chided as being too "old man" and looking far too much like that of the 50-percent-cheaper SLK-Class.

The SL, then, appeals to the adult in me. It's mature, comfortable, and capable. It makes a statement, declaring to the world that the driver has money, but isn't trying to be especially flashy. It's reserved and competent. I want to put on my Gordon Gekko suspenders and drive (quickly) to an important business meeting, but on the weekends, I'll be playing with something else.
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2nd Place: 2012 BMW 650i Convertible

When I asked for their final rankings, associate online editor Nate Martinez noted the SL was only a step behind the other two, and Lago's rankings went "First, second, almost second." The BMW slipped ahead of the Benz by the skin of its teeth.

The BMW's biggest advantage was its handling. While the SL had a stiffer chassis and softer ride, the BMW was more composed in the corners and more fun to drive. Plenty of automakers fit Sport, Comfort, Eco, etc. modes to their cars' computers, but BMW is one of the best in clearly differentiating among the modes. In comfort, the BMW's ride quality was not too far behind the Benz's. Flick it into Sport or Sport+, and the ride, handling, throttle, and shifting firm up the higher up the scale you go.

Further helping the big Bavarian's case was its ultra-modern interior. It may not be the most beautiful design in the world, but we appreciated it for taking a chance, unlike the other two, which seemed to be trying a little too hard to channel their heritage. The acres of contrast-stitched leather were a visual treat, as were the full-color head-up display and the intuitive iDrive system, which was agreed to be much better than the old-looking Mercedes COMAND system and Porsche's endless layers of menus. While the broad leather seats don't have quite as many adjustments as the Benz's, they were just as comfortable on a long drive.

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What did the BMW in, though, were the fundamentals. First and foremost, the Goodyear Eagle LSA run-flat tires fitted to our tester were horribly under spec for the 650's power and performance. Aggressive launches, such as pulling onto a busy street, were constantly met with wheelspin and nanny intervention. On the back roads, all testers expressed a disappointing need to leave the car in Sport, not Sport+, because the tires just couldn't keep up. Then there's the weight. The BMW is the heaviest car by several hundred pounds, and while its handling helps cover up the extra heft, it's still noticeable. As Martinez noted, "It feels as big as it looks," and it doesn't shrink in the corners. There's also the chassis, which is less rigid than those of the other two. The BMW seemed to flex, shudder, and shake more than the others, and I even noticed a hint of cowl shake. "It feels the most 'convertible' of the bunch," Lago wrote.
In all, the BMW appeals to the pragmatist in me. It's the most useable and practical, the one you could use to drive the kids to school on your way to the firm. It still makes a statement about your wealth and status, but it's less controversial. It's even the least expensive here by a good margin, and while that may not be a bragging point at the country club, it doesn't seem to be hurting sales, as it's outselling the outgoing SL 25-to-1. But it still isn't the car the heart pines after.
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1st Place: 2013 Porsche 911 Carrera S

Before we left the office, but after hearing who the judges would be, senior features editor Jonny Lieberman complained rather loudly and jokingly to me that we were just going to give it to the Porsche. It made me want to prove him wrong. I couldn't.

The Porsche won us all over by playing to our emotions. It was, without question, the most fun to drive. Where I was nervous about pushing the BMW to the limit, the Porsche seemed to have no limits, or at least, none I was willing to explore on a public road. The combination of sticky Pirellis, sport-tuned suspension, and an army of computers made the 911 unstoppable, even in wet conditions. While we still don't like the less-tactile electric power steering, the target demographic probably thinks it's a huge improvement. After all, this is a Carrera, not a GT3.

The 911 also had the good fortune of being the best-looking car here. Yes, it looks like the old one, but that doesn't make it ugly. Compared with the awkwardly styled Benz, the 911 is a beauty queen. Add to that the best-looking soft convertible roof ever made, and you can guess which car we snapped the most with our cellphone cameras. To top it off, the roof folds at speeds up to 30 mph.

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It isn't perfect, of course. Like the other two, the 911 has its compromises. As mentioned earlier, the rear seats are pretty much useless. The ride is hard, as befits a sports car, but wins no points in the 9-to-5 commuter's mind. As pretty as the roof is, it's paper-thin, and, as a consequence, the 911 was the noisiest inside. We noted some wind noise coming from the joint between the windows on the driver's side above 75 mph. The interior, while purposeful, didn't look particularly luxurious next to the other two, and the optional sport seats didn't make entry and exit easy. The front trunk is less useful than it seems, unless you have cube-shaped luggage or really short golf clubs.

Those small gripes aside, Martinez sums it up nicely: "The Porsche offers all I'd want: stellar performance, dumbfounding looks, decent comfort, and moderate practicality."

So, yes, the most expensive car won, not because it had the most bells and whistles, but because it's the one we'd all take home. I'd like to say you could just delete some options, but aside from the $5000 Burmeister stereo and the $6 grand in Porsche Exclusive options (like $335 for key fob to match the color of the car -- seriously), the rest of them are performance options. The Porsche speaks to my inner child, the one who dreamed of owning sports cars, not cruisers, and it's got just enough practicality and civility baked in to justify it to myself over the other two. It may not be the car Warren Buffett would own, but Warren doesn't work for Motor Trend.


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Not exactly head to head competitors, but these are cross shopped by some. If you're looking for sport then this was a no-contest for the 911. SL is the best all arounder IMO. Of course I love the 6er too, so you can't really go wrong here.

M
 
Could they please do one of these without the awful convertible versions? The SL is the only one that is appropriated and passable as a Vert to a Vert-prejudice like me (looks proper with the top down and most importantly, looks like a hardtop Coupe with the top up). The 6er looks like a nondescript blimp in Vert form, and the 911 Vert.... well.... it's a 911 Vert. :D
 
The Media only cares about handling and steering feel.

They say that the SL has a much stiffer chassis, and is more comfortable, most dependable feeling, etc., but the BMW wins because it "takes turns a little better?" These Journo's slam Benzes for decades because it doesn't fulfill their boyhood fantasies of flogging these cars for 30 minutes and giving them an adrenaline pump before they trot away in whatever ho-hum ride they themselves have.

Sounds to me, as per usual, the M-B gets points for all the things buyers spending $100+K in a segment of CONVERTIBLE'S for retirees, would want. They even say that the 6-ers chassis is by far the weakest/least rigid, flex, noises, shakes, shudders, even cowl shake. I just wish these "Journalists" could report for the segment of buyers, not their own wet dreams of flogging the funnest car for a short period of time.

As for the 911 in #1, I completely agree with that.
 
^Agreed, outright handling and steering feel matter not in the day to day life of motoring what is important is comfort, luxury, quietness and quality.
 
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wait a second... steering feel matter not in the day to day life of motoring? dont know about that one, i always notice that one first.
 
Problem is, what these idiotic "Tests" don't realize is that many buyers in these segments don't want to feel the roads so much in their cars. They want their steerings to be numb to road imperfections to some degrees.

A car that they say shudders, shimmys, cowl shakes, and feels like it has a soft chassis, yet handles better and has "more connected steering feel" VS a car with an ultra tight chassis, that can handle more than well for real world driving, has a softer and more comfortable ride? I'd pick the latter anyday, and if cost or brand loyalty isn't an issue, I'd bet most shelling out $100+K would as well. When these cars get to 100+K miles, the 6ers less rigid chassis will start to work far more against it than the SL's slightly less "connected" feel.
 
As much as I love the 650i and the 911, of the 3 here I would still go for the SL. It is the most special to me and the looks are growing on me.

M
 
I wouldn't say the editors are idiots for saying what they prefer in sporty cars. Not even Mercedes agrees that steering feel and sportiness are of little to no importance in this class of car. Official words from Mercedes about the SL:
"Whether cornering, cruising or parking, the SL's new electromechanical power steering delivers crisp feedback and clear control. Innovative Direct-steer quickens response in corners, enhances straight-line stability and eases maneuverability.
The letters 'SL' have ever since been synonymous with a symbiosis of sportiness, style and comfort...Its highly rigid all-aluminium bodyshell provides the basis for agile, sporty handling that has been taken to an entirely new level...
Compared with its successful predecessor, the new Mercedes-Benz SL offers considerably more comfort and sportiness, setting new standards in the luxury roadster class. Added to which is uncompromising day-to-day suitability, which turns the SL into an incomparable all-rounder among sports cars. In short, anyone that talks about the new SL is bound to be talking about the ultimate in passionate, refined motoring."

Indeed, what does the "S" in "SL" stand for?
The point about communicative steering even in a Porsche cabriolet is that it helps to form an emotive bond between the driver and the car, gaining confidence that what you want it to do, it will do. And if you want to know more about what's going on at the road surface (arguably of some importance when trying to control 516 lb-ft through two driven wheels), it helps for that communication to go both ways.
The problem, if there is any, is how well Mercedes's delivery stacks up to the other cars in test, as well as to its own aims. It is much lighter than the BMW (by almost 400 lbs), more structural rigidy, and has a whole host of electronic adjustment to the suspension, with no runflats to help kill the ride. Yet it seems only a bit better at ride, and offers less composure and overall driving fun. As the testers put it:
"Complaints were also logged regarding the steering, which offered amazingly sharp turn-in but little feedback, and unexpectedly ramped up the ratio the more you turned the wheel.
It just doesn't create an emotional connection. It's more of a business relationship.
I don't love this car, and it's not for any rational, empirical, or concrete reason. I simply get this clinical feeling; there's little in the way of emotion."

So what the 6 gives up in ride and rigidity, it more than makes up for in handling and fun-to-drive factor. It arguably has a more expressive interior and front end, where the MB seems to have a cold, blank face compared to the others. It is not unusual that in a class where emotion is so much a part of the driving experience, such a car might fall in the presence of others.
 
I think with a convertible though, body rigidity is very important because sportier handling won't hold up over time as the structure begins to loosen up, and again anyone buying a 650i Cabrio or a SL550 is after all out performance. It isn't like the SL550 can't get out of its own way. As much as I like the 650i (I actually have a coupe on order), the SL is still the superior car for the target market IMO. A wobbly structure over time kills the fun of a convertible. The BMW has just as much adjustment to its suspension also, especially if the SL550 didn't have the active body control option.

M
 
^If only Mercedes could describe the work it has done to make the SL sporty, in only 10 words...

Guess we'll have to see if the 6 convertible gets appreciably wobblier over time. I doubt it will impact the fun factor much.
 
It does trust me after driving 2 different convertibles over the last 15 years. As the body weakens the supsension simply can't do its job as effectively. This is why I'm going for a non-convertible for a daily driver now.

Car and Drive recently stated this about the 650i Convertible:

" This cabin design surpasses almost any recent BMW’s and challenges some of Audi’s better designs of late, although violent cowl shake will test the fortitude of its adhesives as the years pass. "

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2012-bmw-650i-convertible-road-test-review

Trust me it will make a huge difference in 5-6 years time. My CLK430 was anvil solid back when, but now certain bumps make it shake pretty good.

M
 
I have no doubt it won't do it's job as effectively, but I think killing the fun factor is something else. A car like the 360 Modena spider has pretty low torsional rigidity when brand new, yet I would think its handling is still impressive after many years (just guessing, never driven one). Miatas are even worse, nevermind the old Alfas that have all the rigidity of a wet noodle (compared to modern cars). You are still keeping the CLK cabrio, yes?
 
Oh yes, still keeping the CLK cabrio. Its been my experience with really sporty convertibles is they rattle themselves to pieces after a few years. The M3 Convertible for example. On the right (well wrong road) it will shake and rattle fiercely. I think it is the bigger, like 4-seat convertibles that are worse due to their extended structure. Its easier to make a shorter wheelbase like a 2-seat roadster more rigid IMO.

M
 
I think with a convertible though, body rigidity is very important because sportier handling won't hold up over time as the structure begins to loosen up, and again anyone buying a 650i Cabrio or a SL550 is after all out performance. It isn't like the SL550 can't get out of its own way. As much as I like the 650i (I actually have a coupe on order), the SL is still the superior car for the target market IMO. A wobbly structure over time kills the fun of a convertible. The BMW has just as much adjustment to its suspension also, especially if the SL550 didn't have the active body control option.

M

EXACTLY! With a loosened body, that 6 Convertible's handling prowess won't mean much, which is what I was saying. The SL's virtues VS the 6er Vert here, after they start putting on some miles, will be far more important than the 6's handling supremacy *while its chassis is still brand-new*.
 

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