Hot! Mercedes-Benz, What's Next?

[Dopebouy]

However demand and appetite for EVs above six figures are more challenging.

i think it’s great that Mercedes gave the GLC/ C EQ most of the S-class goodies, Since not so many people buy expensive EVs.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

Reviews for the CLA and EQB are glowing. Mercedes are nailing it with these EVs. Doing the same with the S would be fab.

However demand and appetite for EVs above six figures are more challenging.

Time will tell.

I think there is a growing appetite now, as the world grows more disillusioned with the instability surrounding petrochemicals.
But we shall see.

 

[Merc1]

Reviews for the CLA and EQB are glowing. Mercedes are nailing it with these EVs. Doing the same with the S would be fab.

However demand and appetite for EVs above six figures are more challenging.

EQB? Did you mean the new GLB?

M

 

[Esp5]

However demand and appetite for EVs above six figures are more challenging.

It's a total fog of uncertainty, at this point, many manufacturers must be thinking that it will only be worthwhile from 2035 onwards because they are obligated to do it, but until then it's just throwing money away.

 

[Centurion]

It's a total fog of uncertainty, at this point, many manufacturers must be thinking that it will only be worthwhile from 2035 onwards because they are obligated to do it, but until then it's just throwing money away.

With EVs differentiation is difficult. It's easy to tell a 4 cylinder apart from a V8. But electric motors in an CLA EV won't be night and day different from electric motors in an EQS.

It's not like Mercedes can sand bag the CLA EV because the Chinese will put the very best drivetrain and tech in $40-60k car.

Autonomous driving would be a fab differentiator but it's am absolute money pit. Too expensive to R&D, prone to under delivering in the real world and doesn't get regulator approval in all markets.

 

[Rolf]

Time will tell.

I think there is a growing appetite now, as the world grows more disillusioned with the instability surrounding petrochemicals.
But we shall see.

I dont see this war ending anytime soon and the prices of oil will be shooting up as well as gas and fertilizers. With the prices of diesel blowing up, I think alot of countries will be increasing their investments in infrastructure and changing their public transport fleet of diesel buses to electric buses. Its happening in South Africa already where our government recently announced a deal with a Uganda EV Bus company to deliver 820 Electric buses to replace the existing bus fleet.

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[Uygar]

It would definitely make sense for them to reappear, but I suppose in the same format as the new E-Class EQ. based on what we've seen so far regarding the "new strategy," they should come as the GLE EQ and GLS EQ, with similar body styles, when the successors to the current models are launched in a few years.

It's worth remembering that the EQE SUV will cease production this year in favor of its temporary replacement, the GLC EQ, just as the sedan is rumored to be doing.

Oh I thought the GLC was a replacement for the EQC. Isn’t EQE one segment above?

 

[Design FIRST]

With EVs differentiation is difficult. It's easy to tell a 4 cylinder apart from a V8. But electric motors in an CLA EV won't be night and day different from electric motors in an EQS.

It's not like Mercedes can sand bag the CLA EV because the Chinese will put the very best drivetrain and tech in $40-60k car.

Autonomous driving would be a fab differentiator but it's am absolute money pit. Too expensive to R&D, prone to under delivering in the real world and doesn't get regulator approval in all markets.

One can argue that the era of the EV introduces a "democratization" of the automotive landscape. This leads to those harboring "elitist" mindsets entrenched in devoted brand loyalties, engine displacements and the like feeling uncomfortable. The air of status, the sensation of arrival becomes more rationally "product oriented" rather than brand oriented. Xiaomi and Huawei, BYD and Geely becoming increasingly significant elements of the equation...who'da thought not so long ago ? And this not only applies to Chinese firms. German companies such as Infineon, Helsing, Quantum Systems and Siemens could join the party as automobile manufacturers in the not too distant future. Although more emphasis is currently being placed on a sort of quasi-wartime footage.

 

[Centurion]

One can argue that the era of the EV introduces a "democratization" of the automotive landscape. This leads to those harboring "elitist" mindsets entrenched in devoted brand loyalties, engine displacements and the like feeling uncomfortable. The air of status, the sensation of arrival becomes more rationally "product oriented" rather than brand oriented. Xiaomi and Huawei, BYD and Geely becoming increasingly significant elements of the equation...who'da thought not so long ago ? And this not only applies to Chinese firms. German companies such as Infineon, Helsing, Quantum Systems and Siemens could join the party as automobile manufacturers in the not too distant future. Although more emphasis is currently being placed on a sort of quasi-wartime footage.

Mercedes could differentiate through design! Lots of room for improvement on the EQS.

 

[Design FIRST]

Mercedes could differentiate through design! Lots of room for improvement on the EQS.

IMHO, the increasing importance of design cannot be dismissed.

 

[Esp5]

Oh I thought the GLC was a replacement for the EQC. Isn’t EQE one segment above?

Yes, it's the EQC's replacement, but considering the EQE's marginal sales and taking into account the far superior technological qualities and even the now respectable size of the GLC EQ, Mercedes wisely opted not to waste resources and optimize its factory space by discontinuing the EQE.

Therefore, anyone wanting a german mid-size electric SUV in the next three years will have to look elsewhere.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

Oh I thought the GLC was a replacement for the EQC. Isn’t EQE one segment above?

One could very strongly argue that the EQE and EQS were positioned a segment higher than they really deserved to be.

 

[Dopebouy]

Mercedes could differentiate through design! Lots of room for improvement on the EQS.

I think in order for them to win the upper EV segment they need to change the next EQS/ S-class EQ to the Vision Iconic design.

Why? It’ll look DIFFERENT.
Someone splashing almost 200k on an EV does not want it to look like another one that costs 45k.

This is why the Rolls-Spectre is selling as an expensive EV, it’s all justified by the design. What sells upper EV segment is the design, luxury & tech.

 

[Design FIRST]

Quoting Stefan Göppel, director of Mercedes-Benz Advanced Design, on the Vision Iconic concept:

"We will never bring such a model, but there are many small details in it that you will certainly see in the production series in the future."

*Excerpt from an article dated March 5th of this year in vision-mobility.de magazine.

 

[Dopebouy]

Mercedes better come with a new design language as soon as Q3 2027, Otherwise it’ll just be another decade of Mercedes being bested by other Manufacturers.

Their current design language is old & the EQ design language is NOT the Future, unless they always want to come last place of course.

 

[klier]

Oh I thought the GLC was a replacement for the EQC. Isn’t EQE one segment above?

It's foggy.

EQE SUV and GLC EV are quite close to eachother.

Same as CLA EV and C class.

 

[Rolf]

It's foggy.

EQE SUV and GLC EV are quite close to eachother.

Same as CLA EV and C class.

The GLC EQ dimensions are very close to those of the EQE SUV and it offers better tech and about the same amount of space and a bigger 570 L boot plus more value for money with the GLC400 been considerably cheaper and it looks so much better.

EQE SUV dimensions:

Exterior Dimensions (Approximate)

• Length: 4,863 mm / 191.5 inches
• Width (without mirrors): 1,940 mm / 76.4 inches
• Width (with mirrors): 2,141 mm / 84.3 inches
• Height: 1,680 - 1,685 mm / 65.8 - 66.4 inches
• Wheelbase: 3,030 mm / 119.3 inches
  Mercedes-Benz +3

Interior and Cargo Dimensions

• Seats: 5
• Boot Capacity (seats up): ~520 Liters / 14.0 cu. ft
• Maximum Boot Capacity (seats down): ~1,675 Liters / 55.0 cu. ft

GLC EQ dimensions:

Length: 4,845 mm (190.7in)
Width: 1,913 mm (75.3in) (without mirrors)
Height: 1,644 mm (64.7in)
Wheelbase: 2,972 mm (117.0in)
Boot/Trunk Space: 570 liters (rear seats up), up to 1,740 liters (folded)
Front Trunk (Frunk): 100 liters

 

[klier]

Dimension / Feature	Mercedes-Benz EQE SUV	Mercedes-Benz GLC EQ
Length	4,863 mm (191.5 in)	4,845 mm (190.7 in)
Width (No Mirrors)	1,940 mm (76.4 in)	1,913 mm (75.3 in)
Width (With Mirrors)	2,141 mm (84.3 in)	N/A
Height	1,680 - 1,685 mm	1,644 mm (64.7 in)
Wheelbase	3,030 mm (119.3 in)	2,972 mm (117.0 in)
Boot Space (Seats Up)	~520 L (14.0 cu ft)	570 L
Max Cargo Space	~1,675 L (55.0 cu ft)	1,740 L
Front Trunk (Frunk)	None	100 L

Geminied that for you @Rolf, thanks for the data

 

[Design FIRST]

The GLC EQ dimensions are very close to those of the EQE SUV and it offers better tech and about the same amount of space and a bigger 570 L boot plus more value for money with the GLC400 been considerably cheaper and it looks so much better.

...especially with this front end:

 

[klier]

...especially with this front end:

That front end doesn't exist