Hot! Mercedes-Benz, What's Next?

[SKY]

GLS face leaked

Another good looking car butchered with the EQ design influence.

Oh, and the same damn bumper on every damn car.

 

[Ozy]

GLS face leaked

Looks horrible - off centered Benz star, the shiny chrome outlines on shiny black plastic, its like the chinese cars from 15 years ago.

I was disappointed with Audi for their latest gen of vehicles, both in appearance, tech and quality.

Mercedes had a horrible EQ lineup, but a pretty good ICE one. Now the best looking ones - namely S and GLS get butchered by the cheap, gypsy style bs of an EQ abomination with glitter on it.

Not a big fan of BMW, not even the NK.

Nevertheless the new GLC EQ and iX3 look wonderful inside out - glimmer of hope… wonder if its enough though. This is all that the Germans can offer today?

Problem is as Wagener said it - the designs are set for the next decade, and I wonder why is it so? In China they treat cars like any consumer device, whenever they come up with something new, they update the production, thats why they have facelifts every 2-3 years. Why cant the Germans do it?

 

[Design FIRST]

Why cant the Germans do it?

I AM German. Save about half a dozen years in total and those looong ago, I've RESIDED and continue to RESIDE in Germany.

Don't get me started.

And it ain't just politics either.

 

[klier]

In China they treat cars like any consumer device, whenever they come up with something new, they update the production, thats why they have facelifts every 2-3 years. Why cant the Germans do it?

Can't do what? They've been doing facelifts every three years for literal decades.

And MBs future for the next 10 years is not set. Despite what that idiot Wagener says.

 

[Design FIRST]

And MBs future for the next 10 years is not set. Despite what that idiot Wagener says.

Spot on !

 

[Ozy]

Can't do what? They've been doing facelifts every three years for literal decades.

And MBs future for the next 10 years is not set. Despite what that idiot Wagener says.

Facelifts that were set many years ago. Just look at the current ICE lineup coming out, both the classic and AMG designs resemble the original EQ cars, the only exception being the starts in the headlights.

The chinese update their cars on the go, and much more thoroughly. I doubt any Chinese EV giant has designs for the next 10 years, maybe 3-4.

But Im with you, lets hope they change course. GLC EQ a step in the right direction.

 

[klier]

Facelifts that were set many years ago.

Yeah I guess you do have a point there. The Chinese are way quicker in adapting

 

[Esp5]

GLC EQ a step in the right direction.

I think it's more of the same, only with a very beautiful grille that doesn't quite fit in because it's much more modern than the rest of the vehicle.

Regarding renovations, the landscape has changed; nowadays they are much more extensive than just 5 or 6 years ago. Today, due to changing technology and, why not, the Chinese competition that has given them a run for their money, they are thoroughly renovating even the interiors, something that had never been done before.

 

[Ozy]

I think it's more of the same, only with a very beautiful grille that doesn't quite fit in because it's much more modern than the rest of the vehicle.

Regarding renovations, the landscape has changed; nowadays they are much more extensive than just 5 or 6 years ago. Today, due to changing technology and, why not, the Chinese competition that has given them a run for their money, they are thoroughly renovating even the interiors, something that had never been done before.

Disagree on the GLC - while the exterior shows similar design cues to the older generations, the sligh changes in the headlights, bumper, and the totally new grill create a better overall picture, more balanced, coherent. The rear is debatable, but at least original - will hold my judgement on that till I see it irl.

BUT! - the interior is beautiful, while I despise large screens, this is the largest and best integrated one among all the germans. I dont know what the design team smoked when they designed this interioe, but it should be freely available to everyone at the company.

 

[leylandi]

The GLC's interior design is exemplary for its competitors. I can't comment on the quality

 

[Dopebouy]

The GLC's interior design is exemplary for its competitors. I can't comment on the quality

It’s quite the benchmark actually

 

[Esp5]

Disagree on the GLC - while the exterior shows similar design cues to the older generations, the sligh changes in the headlights, bumper, and the totally new grill create a better overall picture, more balanced, coherent. The rear is debatable, but at least original - will hold my judgement on that till I see it irl.

I agree that you have to see it on the streets to form a definitive opinion, but as I said, from what has been published so far, I see it more as something that is on its way out than something that is new to today's buyers.

BUT! - the interior is beautiful, while I despise large screens, this is the largest and best integrated one among all the germans. I dont know what the design team smoked when they designed this interioe, but it should be freely available to everyone at the company.

I think it boils down to how you feel sitting in front of such a large, continuous screen, seemingly overwhelming.

 

[Matski]

The Chinese are way quicker in adapting

I think part of the thing with Chinese marques in this regard, is that at the moment they can afford to throw any sh*t at the wall, and just see what sticks. None of them have any real brand value or loyalty to preserve yet, they can move quickly without alienating a core customer base that has bought into existing brand expectations, they don't have to worry about loosing their identity, because in the eyes of most consumers they don't really have any identity. As the successful Chinese brands grow I think you'll see them begin to slow down a bit as they will have to be, and can afford to be, more considered in their approach.

Just my two cents.

 

[Esp5]

None of them have any real brand value or loyalty to preserve yet

What surprises me is how they managed to make that work in their favor instead of against them, as it should have.
I suppose having unlimited money (while it lasts) forgives everything.

 

[Merc1]

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[kiki voinea]

The GLC's interior design is exemplary for its competitors. I can't comment on the quality

GLC by the name , GLE by the price...

The new GLC , when you add that hyperscreen and trims , you will get over 80.000 euros . For a crossover...

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[Matski]

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[klier]

I think part of the thing with Chinese marques in this regard, is that at the moment they can afford to throw any sh*t at the wall, and just see what sticks. None of them have any real brand value or loyalty to preserve yet, they can move quickly without alienating a core customer base that has bought into existing brand expectations, they don't have to worry about loosing their identity, because in the eyes of most consumers they don't really have any identity. As the successful Chinese brands grow I think you'll see them begin to slow down a bit as they will have to be, and can afford to be, more considered in their approach.

Just my two cents.

But it's sad to see the Germans are seemingly unable to quickly deviate from a chosen path when they full well know the chosen path has proven to be the wrong one. It's simply taking too long for them to make a U turn and find the right path. The EQ design language is a globally disliked theme, and yet their whole lineup is turning into it. Something simply doesn't add up.

 

[Swissbob]

But it's sad to see the Germans are seemingly unable to quickly deviate from a chosen path when they full well know the chosen path has proven to be the wrong one. It's simply taking too long for them to make a U turn and find the right path. The EQ design language is a globally disliked theme, and yet their whole lineup is turning into it. Something simply doesn't add up.

I agree with you.

It’s all about China.
They even used a Chinese woman for the press release pictures.

Chinese want Panorama roofs you can’t open, Chinese want a fridge with disinfection, Chinese want 1.5L engines, Chinese want Karaoke on the car, Chinese want a lot of leg room,Chinese despise convertibles Chinese are getting everything they want.

The US or European market doesn’t matter anymore, we have to like and buy what the Chinese want.

If I want to buy a car, which has been developed for the European taste, I need to buy a Dacia. For the US Taste there’s the RAM 1500 or the Mustang or the Escalade, to name only a few.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

Do we know when the GLC's review embargo drops?