Hot! Mercedes-Benz, What's Next?

[leylandi]

 

[martinbo]

I'll admit to having my difficulties in accepting the notion that M-B will replace the current W214 with an automobile presenting the proportions of this alleged E-Class EQ prototype

Have I missed something? Where has it been said that Mercedes intends to replace the W214 with an EV? W214 will continue, EQE will be replaced by this - surely?!?

 

[Design FIRST]

Have I missed something? Where has it been said that Mercedes intends to replace the W214 with an EV? W214 will continue, EQE will be replaced by this - surely?!?

I'm implying the announced "convergence of design" that will allegedly make the appearance of the future ICE and BEV E-Class sedans very similar. Perhaps even insinuating something similar to what BMW has done with the G60 5er and G22 4 GC. And yes-the EQE sedan is on it's way out.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

I'm implying the announced "convergence of design" that will allegedly make the appearance of the future ICE and BEV E-Class sedans very similar. Perhaps even insinuating something similar to what BMW has done with the G60 5er and G22 4 GC. And yes-the EQE sedan is on it's way out.

Convergence of design means they'll look similar. But their platforms and design considerations are completely different.
They'll run in parallel, but will look similar enough that you won't really notice.

 

[martinbo]

I'm implying the announced "convergence of design" that will allegedly make the appearance of the future ICE and BEV E-Class sedans very similar. Perhaps even insinuating something similar to what BMW has done with the G60 5er and G22 4 GC. And yes-the EQE sedan is on it's way out.

Seems like crystal ball gazing to me; W214 hasn't even been facelifted yet. So it's gonna be a while still...

 

[lukeswiss]

What’s causing the sales decline in Mercedes? What are they doing wrong? It cannot be solely because of the “design” because except EQ models they all look great. I’m curious how the CLA and GLC will sell.

I think for starters, a lot of cars are awaiting upgrades, the S-Class has been out for 5 years, facelift is finished, but waiting on software from what I've heard.

 

[Design FIRST]

NOW I get it !

Does M-B want to rejuvinate that many decade old tradition ?

 

[fortuner]

NOW I get it !

I said this already when first pics came out ..

Anyway let’s see how it turns out if it can be a modern W212 would be very interesting

I notice many say when a MB design is starting or out that they old same boring like the GLC ev ehich I like .. many will say it’s boring same design bla bla. Tired of the soft deaigns and all

Now when they may go with the more boxy looking it’s now not elegant and million stories lol

But if another brand came with boxy it’s amazing futuristic lol

 

[Design FIRST]

I said this already when first pics came out ..

Actually, German media reported a while ago that some M-B officials regret having more recently neglected the traditional "E-Class sedan" taxicab market. However, with services like Uber, Bolt, Moia and whatever, would a return to that market be so lucrative ? Not to mention more VW ID.4's, Skoda Enyaqs and various MPVs finding themselves in taxi fleets.

 

[Uygar]

I'll admit to having my difficulties in accepting the notion that M-B will replace the current W214 with an automobile presenting the proportions of this alleged E-Class EQ prototype. The W214 is so elegant and ideally proportioned. BEV really need not be synonymous with questionable, short hooded proportions. We see the Polestar 5, new Xpeng P7 sedan, the new electric Volvo ES90, the Audi etron GT and soon the electric AMG 4 door GT as well as the Jaguar 00 based production car as examples.

Or could it be that M-B's announced "convergence of BEV and ICE sedan design" is in fact B.S. and that the ICE version proportions of the W214 successor will be very noticably different from those of the EQ version ?

My apologies to fervent M-B fans. But I cannot help but suspect that M-B design departments remain a bit lost. That would be a shame as the company has so much to offer in terms of innovative tech.

Hmmm. Now that I’m looking at them both, EV version seems to have a shorter bonnet, ending up with a longer greenhouse. That might also be the reason why it looks a little “odd”

 

[klier]

What’s causing the sales decline in Mercedes? What are they doing wrong? It cannot be solely because of the “design” because except EQ models they all look great. I’m curious how the CLA and GLC will sell.

Crappy cars and totally behind the curve. Have you seen their line-up? It's f#cking ridiculous. None of their main models are available as an EV. Disaster is an understatement. Literally all their EVs are utter failures so far.

Like half of their sales are diesels, instead of EV.

I'll admit to having my difficulties in accepting the notion that M-B will replace the current W214 with an automobile presenting the proportions of this alleged E-Class EQ prototype. The W214 is so elegant and ideally proportioned. BEV really need not be synonymous with questionable, short hooded proportions.

You are not going to put a long hood on a car with no engine up front. Instead, you make the hood smaller and the actual cabin bigger for the same footprint. Wheelbase looks equally big on both cars, maybe even moreso on the supposed EV.

 

[Merc1]

Crappy cars and totally behind the curve. Have you seen their line-up? It's f#cking ridiculous. None of their main models are available as an EV. Disaster is an understatement. Literally all their EVs are utter failures so far.

Like half of their sales are diesels, instead of EV.

Yeah where u are regarding diesels. The EV part is true tho. No one here knows exactly why their sales are dropping without a deep dive into the numbers by market. I would suspect it’s a number of things causing it, not just one thing.

M

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

Yeah where u are regarding diesels. The EV part is true tho. No one here knows exactly why their sales are dropping without a deep dive into the numbers by market. I would suspect it’s a number of things causing it, not just one thing.

M

It's generally not a good market. Even Porsche's profits are down like 99% or something crazy