E-Class Mercedes Benz E-Class Coupe Facelift

[Merc1]

Oh I see. I wonder what happened to the sedan version because clearly they were testing one. Hmmm.


M

 

[K-A]

I would have been ALL over an "E63" Coupe, even though it's shortchanged with the C Chassis. The C Coupe is a huge stylistic compromise in how cheap and unimportant it looks in silhouette, especially considering what we expect from an M-B Coupe (majestic silhouette and proportions). I really hate seeing C Coupe's on the road, looks like an Accord Coupe from the side with greenhouse inspiration from the Pontiac Sunfire.

 

[Merc1]

OMG a Pontiac Sunfire? K/A stop it, ridiculous man.


M

 

[K-A]

OMG a Pontiac Sunfire? K/A stop it, ridiculous man.


M

Yeah, the greenhouse is about as cheap and un-elegant/un-sexy looking as a hypothetical 2012 Sunfire's probably would be. Just 'cause it's an M-B doesn't automatically make it on some higher level. It has a very utilitarian and "Rental Car" greenhouse look, with the lack of sleekness, huge rear window and giant fat plastic B Pillar frame.

The E Coupe and CL in comparison have proper M-B Coupe greenhouses (though the "E" Coupe is hampered by those C Class Sedan proportions which shouldn't have ever been on an "E" Coupe" and that ugly window separator on the rear window).

 

[Merc1]

Despite this really silly swipe at the C Coupe's design it is a great little car. Drives like a Mercedes, feels like a Mercedes.

Looks like the Honda Accord yes, from certain angles in photos yes, on the street no, but heck I'll give you that one, but this Sunfire mess is just pure rubbish. You really have to hate the C to go searching for such silly comparison.

Thing is all of this a matterless because on the road, where these cars actually are, no sighted person will EVER mistake a C Coupe for Sunfire so I don't see what the point is. 99 percent of the 2-door cars on the road have a similar greenhouse, only when you spend some serious money do you get a different design or a pillarless one.

M

 

[Levi68]

They should have built a AMG BS based on this instead of the half assed C coupe.

That would totally wipe out the sport coupé segment with its +550 PS 5.5l V8, wieghing barely more than a C63 AMG and much less than an M6.

 

[K-A]

Thing is all of this a matterless because on the road, where these cars actually are, no sighted person will EVER mistake a C Coupe for Sunfire so I don't see what the point is. 99 percent of the 2-door cars on the road have a similar greenhouse, only when you spend some serious money do you get a different design or a pillarless one.

Oh, c'mon, you know that's not true. The C Coupe bears a very distinct greenhouse that usually has been reserved for Accord Coupe's and the like. You can get plenty of even cheaper Coupes with frameless windows, and sportier/more elegant "Coupe greenhouses" with a smaller rear window and a sexier rake of the A-Pillar, etc.. The 3-Series Coupe is one example. The C Coupe just looks very compromised to me.

I have no complaints about the drive, other than the tappy-sounding dog of a 4 banger that comes on C250 (no comparison to the 4-banger found on the 328i), just the design.

 

[Merc1]

Oh, c'mon, you know that's not true. The C Coupe bears a very distinct greenhouse that usually has been reserved for Accord Coupe's and the like. You can get plenty of even cheaper Coupes with frameless windows, and sportier/more elegant "Coupe greenhouses" with a smaller rear window and a sexier rake of the A-Pillar, etc.. The 3-Series Coupe is one example. The C Coupe just looks very compromised to me.

I have no complaints about the drive, other than the tappy-sounding dog of a 4 banger that comes on C250 (no comparison to the 4-banger found on the 328i), just the design.

Other than the 3 Coupe it most certainly is true, just as I said. I believe I just stated the same thing about the Honda, yes I get the looking like a Honda Accord, my point is that on the road can you not tell the C-Class Coupe from a Honda Accord Coupe? I can. If you can't then I don't know what to tell you. More elegant greenhouses on cheaper cars? I'd love to seem them, beside the 3-Series coupe because to me the C looks just like the design that Mercedes intended. Which was "to get back to what made our previous coupes so popular", which were like the old 300CE/E320 Coupes during the W/C124 era, they looked just like the sedan minus 2 doors with a lower roof which is what the C Coupe is. You want more expensive features, you buy up to an E or CL Coupe. Cheaper coupes with frameless windows? Sure, and what you still don't get is that if Mercedes did all those upscale things to a C Coupe there would be no reason for E Coupe.


M

 

[K-A]

IMO this doesn't have the same execution of the previous "Coupe version of Sedans". All of them actually had not only frameless, but pilarless windows instead, and looked distinctly M-B. When I look at the windowhouse of the C Coupe I see many other cars (cheaper/generic/"Rental Car" look), but I don't see any remnants of a true M-B character. This is why I consider it a "compromised product".

As for cheaper or similarly priced Coupe's that have sexier/more Coupe-like greenhouses with shorter back windows and no big fat plastic ungainly door frame, look at the 3 (obviously) the Genesis Coupe, the Toyota FR-S, Camaro, Infiniti G Coupe, CTS Coupe, Audi A5.

 

[tennmb]

I have no idea what the love affair is with frameless windows on a coupe. I'm as harsh a ciritc as anyone, but the C-coupe isn't mistaken for an Accord. The C is nicely styled and is a very encouraging sign for the next generation. This time MB will have the benefit of designing a coupe and sedan concurrently. Something they weren't able to do on the current model.

 

[Merc1]

IMO this doesn't have the same execution of the previous "Coupe version of Sedans". All of them actually had not only frameless, but pilarless windows instead, and looked distinctly M-B. When I look at the windowhouse of the C Coupe I see many other cars (cheaper/generic/"Rental Car" look), but I don't see any remnants of a true M-B character. This is why I consider it a "compromised product".

As for cheaper or similarly priced Coupe's that have sexier/more Coupe-like greenhouses with shorter back windows and no big fat plastic ungainly door frame, look at the 3 (obviously) the Genesis Coupe, the Toyota FR-S, Camaro, Infiniti G Coupe, CTS Coupe, Audi A5.

The only luxury car or anything approaching a luxury car there that looks like anything is the Infiniti and the Audi, the CTS is about about ugly a shape as possible. The C isn't a compromised product, you simply don't get it. There is no such thing as pillarless windows either. You seem to be able to read into comments about the SL or SLS, yet you can't grasp a direct statement about the C Coupe right from Mercedes-Benz. There is nothing compromised about the C Coupe only to you.

This nonsense about door frames and pillarless design is just bunk because the reality of it is that the C Coupe doesn't get mistaken for a Honda or a Pontiac on the road or in real life. All this other BS about it looking like this or having a greenhouse like that is specious.


M

 

[K-A]

What I'm saying is that the C Coupe's greenhous is about as sexy as an Accord Coupe's. And that is pretty certifiable as they look about identical in that regard. Greenhouse is a very important styling element to me, one of THE most important. I don't care if it doesn't get mistaken for an Accord, just that it resembles an Accord in something as significant as the greenhouse. The framed door on a Coupe is just something that's reserved for cheap Rental Cars usually, and just looks cheap and bad, which is why it bothers me so much.

The C Coupe is a hit because it wears the Benz badge and is the cheapest Coupe that they've released with adequate enough room in a long time. People have been lined up for the mere concept alone, greenhouse execution and too-Sedan-like proportions be damned.

 

[Merc1]

You keep missing the point. Do you not see a whole car when you look at it or do you just see the greenhouse? Greenhouse is just one aspect of the car. If you see a C350 or a C63 Coupe you aren't going to think Accord. The car looks nothing like an Accord on the road. Who goes around judging a car's look solely on the look of the greenhouse? Who does that? So it had a sexier greenhouse like one of your examples, say the CTS Coupe, then it would be ok to have disproportionately rear that is a styling disaster like the CTS Coupe?

Bottom line is that no sighted person is going to mistake the C Coupe for an Accord.

If you're going to take just one element of a car and judge it that way then thousands of cars all look alike.

The sedan-like proportions are what they were going for! Why is it impossible for you to grasp that? You seem to know (or think you know) exactly what Mercedes had in mind with the FL of the E-Class, so the question is why can't you grasp that they intentionally went for a 2-door sedan-ish looking coupe. The clearly stated that they were going back to what made their coupes popular in the past, namely the 300CE of the late 80's early 90's.


M

 

[K-A]

You keep missing the point. Do you not see a whole car when you look at it or do you just see the greenhouse? Greenhouse is just one aspect of the car. If you see a C350 or a C63 Coupe you aren't going to think Accord. The car looks nothing like an Accord on the road. Who goes around judging a car's look solely on the look of the greenhouse? Who does that? So it had a sexier greenhouse like one of your examples, say the CTS Coupe, then it would be ok to have disproportionately rear that is a styling disaster like the CTS Coupe?

Bottom line is that no sighted person is going to mistake the C Coupe for an Accord.

If you're going to take just one element of a car and judge it that way then thousands of cars all look alike.

The sedan-like proportions are what they were going for! Why is it impossible for you to grasp that? You seem to know (or think you know) exactly what Mercedes had in mind with the FL of the E-Class, so the question is why can't you grasp that they intentionally went for a 2-door sedan-ish looking coupe. The clearly stated that they were going back to what made their coupes popular in the past, namely the 300CE of the late 80's early 90's.


M

I think the CTS Coupe is hideous as well, but the greenhouse isn't as cheap and run-of-the-mill looking as the C-Coupe's.

The reason I put all this emphasis into "greenhouse" is because *that's what makes it a Coupe!*. Just because it doesn't look like an Accord on the road (close enough), isn't an issue. It has a big Star grille and Benz badges on it, and is a wholy different design, of course it won't. But DESIGN ELEMENTS are what make up a design! I'm very in-depth when I look at a car, I don't just look at the whole picture. I see lines, shapes, greenhouse, angles, etc. The C Coupe having even a greenhouse that resembles an Accord or generic cheap GM Rental Coupe in terms of inherent nature is enough for me. Even the biggest Star grille in the world wouldn't get me to not notice that aspect.

As for the Sedan proportions, I'll give you that. If that's what they're going for, then it is what it is. I think the C Coupe is one of the most un-sexy M-B's to ever come out. I can't describe how cheap I feel it looks when I'm just concentrating on the window-house, or opening the door with that big fat singular door frame (the whole part that makes it a C COUPE).

 

[Merc1]

I think the CTS Coupe is hideous as well, but the greenhouse isn't as cheap and run-of-the-mill looking as the C-Coupe's.

The reason I put all this emphasis into "greenhouse" is because *that's what makes it a Coupe!*. Just because it doesn't look like an Accord on the road (close enough), isn't an issue. It has a big Star grille and Benz badges on it, and is a wholy different design, of course it won't. But DESIGN ELEMENTS are what make up a design! I'm very in-depth when I look at a car, I don't just look at the whole picture. I see lines, shapes, greenhouse, angles, etc. The C Coupe having even a greenhouse that resembles an Accord or generic cheap GM Rental Coupe in terms of inherent nature is enough for me. Even the biggest Star grille in the world wouldn't get me to not notice that aspect.

As for the Sedan proportions, I'll give you that. If that's what they're going for, then it is what it is. I think the C Coupe is one of the most un-sexy M-B's to ever come out. I can't describe how cheap I feel it looks when I'm just concentrating on the window-house, or opening the door with that big fat singular door frame (the whole part that makes it a C COUPE).

The greenhouse of the CTS coupe is nice, but the car itself is hideous?? K/A, that is the one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read here. Nice body, terrible face or pretty face, and rude shaped body. Utterly ridiculous man. The design elements are nice, but the car itself is "hideous" according to you, that is just senseless. That pretty much says it all.


M

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

KA, do you not get tired of bitching about MB's design in every single thread?

 

[K-A]

The greenhouse of the CTS coupe is nice, but the car itself is hideous?? K/A, that is the one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read here. Nice body, terrible face or pretty face, and rude shaped body. Utterly ridiculous man. The design elements are nice, but the car itself is "hideous" according to you, that is just senseless. That pretty much says it all.


M

The greenhouse is nicer and more premium looking than the C Coupe's, but it doesn't make it nice (the C-Coupe's is ugly), nor does it make the car nice. It's all about context.

 

[Levi68]

autoweek.nl.

E and E coupe in Madrid

Hey guys. I'm not sure it is the facelifted E Coupé. It looks atlot like the CLS.

 

[merc4]

Hey guys. I'm not sure it is the facelifted E Coupé. It looks atlot like the CLS.

it looks like the new E 63 coupe or at least AMG pack. But the grill has only one bar and the front fender is bulged and the wheels look like 19 inch so I believe it is the 63.

 

[K-A]

Hey guys. I'm not sure it is the facelifted E Coupé. It looks atlot like the CLS.

Looks too compact to be a CLS and the A-Pillar looks too fast/raked to be a CLS. I think it's an "E"-Coupe.