A-Class (W176) [Spy Shots] Mercedes-Benz A45 AMG Spied

[LaArtist]

Woho..im stoked to see this

Over 400nm sounds like fun

 

[Levi68]

Woho..im stoked to see this

Over 400nm sounds like fun

Well, that is what an N54 get effortlessly, but somehow anyway gets into LIMP mode when tracked.

 

[Tumbo]

That is a monster 4-banger. Ironically, in the compact segment, Mercedes will have the smallest engine: 2.0l I4 (AMG) vs. 2.5l I5 (RS) vs. 3.0l I6 (M).

Indeed. But where does the "45" in the name, come from?

 

[Tumbo]

chris harris on twitter:
Had a ride in this today. V. interesting

As nice as it is.
I can't help thinking Citroen, when I see this.

 

[LaArtist]

^Why the only similarity i see is the yellow color..haha

 

[Tumbo]

^Why the only similarity i see is the yellow color..haha

I mean the shapes of some lines, the rear lights and the roof... Can't put my finger on exactly what it is, but the new A-class has just always reminded me of Citroen's DS3/4/5 designs.

 

[LaArtist]

^haha i fail to see it..but if you do..hey who can argue

 

[Betty Swollocks]

Indeed. But where does the "45" in the name, come from?

It's the 45th anniversary of AMG I believe.

Now, can anybody explain why 6.3 appears on the side of the C63 AMG when it's a 6.2 litre engine?

 

[LaArtist]

^Thats cause the 6.3 is legendary AMG displacement..so they decided to call it 6.3 instead of 6.2..close enough..

But that's far from the only example of misleading badges in the car industry

for instance the 328i is 2.0 like the 320..
Or the 335 which is in fact a 3.0
go figure

 

[Betty Swollocks]

^Thats cause the 6.3 is legendary AMG displacement..so they decided to call it 6.3 instead of 6.2..close enough..

But that's far from the only example of misleading badges in the car industry

for instance the 328i is 2.0 like the 320..
Or the 335 which is in fact a 3.0
go figure

But BMW aren't suggesting the 328i has a 2.8 litre engine. It's just the name of the model. Just because it happened to be that way in the past is irrelevant. But putting "6.3" on the side of the car is strange when it's a 6.2 litre engine, especially when on other AMG models they put the correct displacement on the side.

 

[LaArtist]

^they don't? i always thought E500 meant 5.0 and 528 meant 2.8..

Why else call it that? why not 320i and 320i sport or something along those lines?

 

[Betty Swollocks]

^they don't? i always thought E500 meant 5.0 and 528 meant 2.8..

Why else call it that? why not 320i and 320i sport or something along those lines?

They USED to mean the engine size but now we're in an age where one engine capacity with various states of tune can cover several models they can't do it anymore.

Yes, I guess they could call it the 320i, 320i Sport, etc. But 320i, 328i works.

Mercedes-Benz do it too. The E200 CDI, E220 CDI, E250 CDI all have 2.1 litre engines. The E350 CDI and S 350 CDI both have 3.0 litre engines.

 

[LaArtist]

^yes i know..many manufacturers do it now a days..

But in short the answer to your question is.. the legendary status of the 6.3 litre displacement withing AMG..
Thats why they call it 6.3 if it wasent for that C 62 AMG would work good enough

 

[Sunny]

^yes i know..many manufacturers do it now a days..

But in short the answer to your question is.. the legendary status of the 6.3 litre displacement withing AMG..
Thats why they call it 6.3 if it wasent for that C 62 AMG would work good enough

The funny part is the car actually had a 6.8L engine.

 

[LaArtist]

^hah yeah i know.. they been doing it wrong for decades

 

[Wolfgang]

Ahso.

That's the M100 with 6332 cc in the W109 above (300SEL 6.3). Lateron in 1975 the 6.9 followed in the W116 chassis (450SEL 6.9) with 6834 cc.

 

[Wolfgang]

Latest rumor.

The A45 AMG will have "at least" 354 hp, indicating it may have more. Torque is still expected to be 450 Nm max. The wet clutch 7G-DCT may be limiting it to 450 Nm.

http:///2013/02/a45-amg-weltpremiere-in-genf-mit-354-ps/&act=url

Henning’s team felt that achieving the target torque capacity of 350 Nm with a dry clutch system would result in a larger and heavier package with higher moments of inertia, pointing toward inferior shift quality. An oil-cooled multi-plate clutch design would, on the other hand, allow greater torque capacity and a subsequent upgrading to 450 Nm for future and more powerful all-wheel drive derivatives. Specifically, said Henning, the wet clutch system is 10 kg lighter and has 50 percent less inertia than a dry counterpart would have been.

http://www.dctfacts.com/emerging-technology/mercedese-dct.aspx

 

[941benz]

Indeed. But where does the "45" in the name, come from?

I think "45" stands for power output equivalent to 4.5 litter engine , just like other Mercedes models.

 

[Sunny]

Ahso.

That's the M100 with 6332 cc in the W109 above (300SEL 6.3). Lateron in 1975 the 6.9 followed in the W116 chassis (450SEL 6.9) with 6834 cc.

The AMG version of W109 300SEL ("red pig" - which was the first AMG) had a 6.8L version of M100. Of course I am getting all this from wikipedia, so it could be wrong.

 

[Wolfgang]

^ Agreed.

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