Jeremy Clarkson sacked by The BBC


"Political correctness gone mad" is a catch all statement that ignorant people use to try to justify their distasteful thoughts, but rarely nowadays is it used correctly. If people want to fight for their right to call Mexicans "fat and lazy, and their food looks like sick", or want to laugh because they've named their dog after a black player, "you know, because it's black", then count me out. Had he got a white dog, would he have called it John Terry? I doubt it.



But that is not political correctness gone mad. That's just being a decent human being.
Hmm, I don't think I've mentioned "political correctness", however I guess JC is a proud (and determined) opponent of the culture of perpetual outrage that political correctness has lead to.

I really doubt many black people care about JC's ironically named dog.

Honestly, Betty, you are one of the most argumentative members of this forum ......I would have thought you might be more sympathetic to JC's roguish individualism even if you didn't agree with his actions.
 
Oh this is pathetic. "People like you?" Really? Care to explain?

And this has got nothing to do with geopolitics so don't start taking it down that avenue. It's about JC punching somebody.

What is wrong with the World is people's selfishness. Period.

Cure the world with your magical wisdom. Problem solved.

Yeah an argument over the internet is going to solve people's selfishness. Very effective remedy.

BTW for the sake of nothing, What I meant is that if Clarkson punched a guy for his short-coming at work. he should be disciplined but the show shouldn't stop airing at least. This is my opinion, if you think it is wrong ? fine. it is still my opinion. getting fired over a lousy producer is also some kind of selfishness because Clarkson entertained many people and put a smile on their face during Sunday nights. Is that also selfish ? Punishing millions of people who found him funny is not the proper action.
 
What I meant is that if Clarkson punched a guy for his short-coming at work. he should be disciplined but the show shouldn't stop airing at least.

The BBC wanted to continue broadcasting the rest of the series but Hammond and May refused to do it without Clarkson, which in my opinion is gross misconduct in itself.
 
The BBC wanted to continue broadcasting the rest of the series but Hammond and May refused to do it without Clarkson, which in my opinion is gross misconduct in itself.

They announced the remaining show episodes cancelled right after he got suspended for investigation.
 
The thing is if you are given a clear final warning at work, and you go and punch another staff member, what do you expect the boss do?
 
They announced the remaining show episodes cancelled right after he got suspended for investigation.

And your point is?

The shows were "suspended", which is different from cancelled. The BBC then offered the chance for Hammond and May to film the studio sections as a pair (the studio elements are filmed on the Wednesday before the Sunday broadcast), and therefore the viewers would see the full series. They refused.


"Top Gear could have stayed on air without Jeremy Clarkson - but his co-hosts reportedly refused to present the show without him. James May and Richard Hammond were offered the chance to front the motoring show during Clarkson’s suspension, according to a BBC executive. Discussions were held about broadcasting the last three episodes with mainly recorded segments while the two co-stars filmed the studio parts."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/cel...to-film-Top-Gear-without-Jeremy-Clarkson.html
 
Martin is right. This thread is going nowhere.

This is one of the most debated threads on the forum, when in fact there should be nothing to debate. We can talk endlessly about something subjective, such as which is the best looking car. How we can have these endless, futile debates about something so clear cut is frankly, quite astounding.
 
I really doubt many black people care about JC's ironically named dog.

Ironic? What is ironic about it? I put it to you that you haven't the foggiest idea what "irony" is.

JC saw a colour, and that colour was black. What did he do? Named it after a black footballer. Had he a Golden retriever, wouldhe have named it after a white footballer? I doubt it.


Honestly, Betty, you are one of the most argumentative members of this forum ......I would have thought you might be more sympathetic to JC's roguish individualism even if you didn't agree with his actions.

"Roguish individualism"?! Are you serious?! JC isn't a roguish individual! He's mainstream! He plays the "man of the people" card whilst at the same time enjoys complete privilege, and has done throughout his life! He's personal friends with the Prime Minister for God's sake! And you and other people fall for it!

Is your idea of "roguish individualism" using racist terms that were deemed unacceptable in the 70s? Is your idea of a "rogue" calling Gordon Brown a öne-eyed Scottish idiot? Is your idea of a rogue somebody who calls a colleague a "a lazy Irish c**t"? How about driving around America with "gay" written on the side of a car? How about deliberately driving to the Argentinian port, quite a small place, with a reference to the Falklands War on the number plate? A town where hundreds of men lost their lives in a battleship sinking, where many of the relatives of the servicemen killed still live? How about if an Argentinian TV crew drove into New York making references to 9/11, or into a British Army town making refernces to the Second World War?

That isn't roguish, it's pathetic.
 
I think this is really getting too far, the guy didn't respect the rules imposed by his employer and he got fired. Simple
 
Getting tired of the news about him.I'm afraid to open my fridge and find Jeremy there. I mean he's a good man, but enough is enough. I'm sure he is and will be better than the most of the fan girls all over this world. One man has lost his job..So what? He still has the money,he is still popular. Won't be a problem to make another show.
Jeremy that, Jeremy this. Lol Jeez
 
betty, i think your one of, if not the most politically correct person here

they could've solved this in another manner and still kept the series going

as for the punch, you said maximum punishment for a an assault was 7 years in prison, notice the word maximum, i know that a punch can land you anything from a fine to jailtime

The thing is if you are given a clear final warning at work, and you go and punch another staff member, what do you expect the boss do?

unbiased neutral and correct comment, however it can be argued that these warning were given to him because of political correctness

1. the slope joke was an obvious joke using a double entendre word (see this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DoubleEntendre)
2. the n-word controversy was just mumbling in an UNAIRED tape which means there was nobody that could be offended in the first place

Oh my God. What does "hating" have to do with anything?! It's not as if he's done nothing wrong and people are saying he should be sacked! Whilst on a final warning for other offences he launched a xenophobic attack on a colleague and PUNCHED him. Not only is this wrong on many levels, IT'S A CRIMINAL OFFENCE!!!

i wouldn't call either of the hosts xenophobic, look at where they've been: africa (x2), south-america (x2), middle east, japan, china, australia, antarctica, arctic, north-america, india, vietnam, burma
 
The man has moved on from Top Gear, and found even more fame and success with One Direction!

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betty, i think your one of, if not the most politically correct person here

The bizarre thing about that comment is that you're saying it as a criticism!


as for the punch, you said maximum punishment for a an assault was 7 years in prison, notice the word maximum, i know that a punch can land you anything from a fine to jailtime

No, I said 5 years. And what is your point anyway? I was responding to somebody äsking "who says it's wrong to punch an employee". I was explaining that it's very clearly a CRIMINAL OFFENCE.




i wouldn't call either of the hosts xenophobic, look at where they've been: africa (x2), south-america (x2), middle east, japan, china, australia, antarctica, arctic, north-america, india, vietnam, burma

Yes, and in Burma they used a racial epithet.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/may/06/top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-slope-comment-bbc-ofcom

In India they caused controvery.....
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2011/dec/30/jeremy-clarkson-row-top-gear-india

In South America they got literally hounded out of Argentina for making fun of the Falklands War

In Vietnam, despite saying after the Argentina incident they'd "never" make fun of soldiers dying, they joked about the Vietnam War.

In the United States they drove through the Southern U.S. with "gay" written on the side of the car. Classy.

On other countries:

On Mexico
Richard Hammond said they're "going to be lazy, feckless, flatulent, overweight, leaning against a fence asleep looking at a cactus with a blanket with a hole in the middle on as a coat".
May described Mexican food as "like sick with cheese on it" and Clarkson predicted they would not get any complaints about the show because "at the Mexican embassy, the ambassador is going to be sitting there with a remote control like this (snores). They won't complain, it's fine."

On Romania
"The Romanian Times also reported that Clarkson called Romania a "gypsy land". Complaints were also rife regarding Clarkson's actions to don a pork pie hat which he called a "gypsy" hat, while commenting: "I'm wearing this hat so the gypsies think I am [another gypsy]."

On Germany
Talking about the Mini, Clarkson commented that they should build a car that is "quintessentially German". He suggested turn signals that displayed Hitler salutes, "a sat-nav that only goes to Poland" (in reference to the Nazi invasion of Poland), and "ein fanbelt that will last a thousand years", a reference to Adolf Hitler's propaganda slogan of "the thousand-year Reich". These statements gained negative attention from the German Government, and led to viewers' complaints reaching the BBC Board of Governors.


He's hardly going to get a job at the United Nations is he?

Oh, and by the way @lafars. Just because you travel, it doesn't mean you're not a xenophobe or a racist. What a silly and naive comment. :banghead:
 
Jeremy Clarkson thought he was bigger than the BBC and f#cked himself, but he did get his steak. The UN is an evil organization very much UN-involved in peace.

And on that bombshell, close this thread and let's talk about cars.
 
Based on the facts, not hearsay and conjecture or whether he's a rogue or an ass, but actual facts, I really fail to see how any reputable organization could not dismiss an employee after an incident like that. Especially, when said employee has been given multiple warnings to past incidences. In any reputable organization, this would be the course of action. It just is.

As for their being another solution to handle this, what else could they do? Whatever punishment that was doled out to him other than dismissal would be an exceptional measure for an elite person. Something he has made a career out of by railing against such notions.
 
So its ABSOLUTELY Not ok to make fun of countries/ethnic race on TV shows while its absolutely fine to F***** other countries/ethnic groups by your country's foreign policy.


^^^ :confused::eek:


Who said it's fine to "F***** other countries/ethnic groups by your country's foreign policy."??

I never did.

You've seriously overstepped the mark here. What the HELL does a country's foreign policy have to do with this, and what the HELL does it have to do with me?!!

Post reported and you are reminded that politics are not to be discussed.

This thread is going to be closed after your post now anyway.



What an absolutely moronic post.
 
Who said it's fine to "F***** other countries/ethnic groups by your country's foreign policy."??

I never did.

You've seriously overstepped the mark here. What the HELL does a country's foreign policy have to do with this, and what the HELL does it have to do with me?!!

Post reported and you are reminded that politics are not to be discussed.

This thread is going to be closed after your post now anyway.



What an absolutely moronic post.

Hey Mr. Centre of the universe. Did I mention your name anywhere in that post ? Go get some life and grow a pair.
 

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