Rimac [Hot!] Rimac Nevera

Croatian EV pioneer and leader in high-performance battery tech. Home of the 2,107 HP Nevera R, the world's fastest accelerating production car. Official: Rimac
I only recently found this downforce measurement on Dewesoft's website (the company which verified all kinds of data for Rimac's record breaking runs). Apparently they mounted some sensors to the car's dampers and were able to calculate downforce this way.
We used the DEWE-43A data acquisition system for powering and acquiring data for the laser distance sensors to ensure sufficient power. The sensor measured the vehicle’s front and rear ride height. We calculated the aerodynamic downforce by measuring the damper displacement with four LVDT sensors installed on the four suspension springs. The measurements are used by the Rimac aerodynamics team to ensure correct calibration and setup of the vehicle’s aerodynamics.

The relation between damper displacement and wheel load was calibrated in the workshop. The method works well for straight-line tests at a constant velocity where there are minimal load changes from weight transfer. The load changes caused by the uneven track are reduced by averaging the loads over a fixed window.

During the test, an aerodynamics specialist in the vehicle’s passenger seat went through different front and rear settings by sending the commands via Rimac control software. The parameters were decoded from the vehicle CAN network and stored alongside the velocity and suspension displacements.
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Let's use this number to try and estimate the rest of the aero modes on Rimac Nevera:

High Speed mode (DRS)
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For speeds beyond the normal 350 kph limiter, the car is set up in special DRS aero mode. This means the front top flap is open, diffuser flap is open, rear wing is not totally retracted and has very little angle of attack.
Dewesoft recorded total downforce of 550 kg at top speed (412 kph). That's about 203 kg at 250 kph.


Track mode
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Assuming the aero balance is 45% front / 55% rear (LaFerrari low drag stats), we get 91 kg just on the front axle.
Assuming Track mode with the rear wing all the way up and with aggressive angle of attack, has aero balance of 25% front / 75% rear (close to LaFerrari's high downforce stats) and the front axle downforce stays the same, this gives us total downforce of 364 kg at 250 kph.

Reminder that Pininfarina Battista with Furiosa aero package generated 260 kg at 250 kph in high downforce mode, in their own wind tunnel.


Range mode
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Rimac says the difference from Range mode to Track mode is 326%. This gives us 112 kg at 250 kph for the Range mode.
LaFerrari claims 141 kg at the same speed.


I used LaFerrari as a reference, because it's a fairly modern car with a lot of active aero devices.
At the front, it has a center underbody guide vane and two flaps channeling air in the wheel well area.
And at the back, it has two diffuser flaps and the active spoiler.

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While there's warranted skepticism about Ferrari's downforce claims, I'm hoping they wouldn't lie about their downforce split numbers. This whole estimation hinges on that 😁 .

But of course, don't take these too seriously. I'm just having fun with it.
 
TST podcast episode with Miro Zrnčević, the test and development driver for Rimac and Bugatti.
They talk a lot about Nevera and also a little bit about Bolide, among other things.

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I only recently found this downforce measurement on Dewesoft's website (the company which verified all kinds of data for Rimac's record breaking runs). Apparently they mounted some sensors to the car's dampers and were able to calculate downforce this way.

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Let's use this number to try and estimate the rest of the aero modes on Rimac Nevera:

High Speed mode (DRS)
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For speeds beyond the normal 350 kph limiter, the car is set up in special DRS aero mode. This means the front top flap is open, diffuser flap is open, rear wing is not totally retracted and has very little angle of attack.
Dewesoft recorded total downforce of 550 kg at top speed (412 kph). That's about 203 kg at 250 kph.


Track mode
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Assuming the aero balance is 45% front / 55% rear (LaFerrari low drag stats), we get 91 kg just on the front axle.
Assuming Track mode with the rear wing all the way up and with aggressive angle of attack, has aero balance of 25% front / 75% rear (close to LaFerrari's high downforce stats) and the front axle downforce stays the same, this gives us total downforce of 364 kg at 250 kph.

Reminder that Pininfarina Battista with Furiosa aero package generated 260 kg at 250 kph in high downforce mode, in their own wind tunnel.


Range mode
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Rimac says the difference from Range mode to Track mode is 326%. This gives us 112 kg at 250 kph for the Range mode.
LaFerrari claims 141 kg at the same speed.


I used LaFerrari as a reference, because it's a fairly modern car with a lot of active aero devices.
At the front, it has a center underbody guide vane and two flaps channeling air in the wheel well area.
And at the back, it has two diffuser flaps and the active spoiler.

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While there's warranted skepticism about Ferrari's downforce claims, I'm hoping they wouldn't lie about their downforce split numbers. This whole estimation hinges on that 😁 .

But of course, don't take these too seriously. I'm just having fun with it.
Downforce does not seem to be as high as the Bugatti Chiron?
 
I have no numbers on Chiron (do you?), but I would imagine it's very low.
I just saw on the official website that the total downforce generated by Divo is 456 kilograms, 90 kg more than on the Chiron.
 
Downforce increases with velocity squared and thus the Divo's 456 kg @ 380 km/h translates to 197 kg @ 250 km/h. That is slightly less than the Nevera in the up to 412 km/h high speed mode (203 kg), and significantly less than the Nevera in track mode at just over half (54%) of its 364 kg of downforce.
 
I just saw on the official website that the total downforce generated by Divo is 456 kilograms, 90 kg more than on the Chiron.
Good find! I was never a fan of Divo, so I didn't think of looking at its stats.

Here's all the modern era Bugattis:
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And some background info on the data:
  • We went over why I think Bolide claim is too high in the past (+ I added 120 kg to their dry weight claim).
  • The handling mode for Veyrons works up to 375 kph vs 380 kph on Chirons.
  • Source for Veyron 16.4 DF (350 kg at 375 kph)
  • Source for Veyron SS DF (they say it's 400 kg at top speed, but it's gotta be at 375 kph instead)
  • DF claim for Chiron Pur Sport: 50 kg over standard Chiron at 350 kph.
  • Chiron SS DF is the only one I guessed. The car has 8% larger wing area, longer diffusor, vented front fenders.
Let me be the first one to say that Veyron SS having more DF over base Chiron (let alone Chiron SS) already seems fishy to me.
 
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More independent data:

0-60: 2.37s
60-130: 3.32s
1/4: 8.81@168mph

100-200km/h: 2.87s
200-300km/h: 5.15s

This is consistent with other independent tests done with pre-production cars (Carwow, AutomannTV, Drag Times).

However, Rimac's own records:

0-60: 1.94s (Rimac's official number is 1.74s because they substracted roll-out)
60-130: 2.99s
1/4: 8.45s (8.25s official)

100-200km/h: 2.59s
200-300km/h: 4.79s

I am still wondering what special sauce Rimac used to make their car go so much faster. The results from a stop can be somewhat explained by them using perfectly preheated Cup 2 Rs on a some great surface, but how do you explain the rolling acceleration discrepancy?
 

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