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It seem Top Gear has their facts wrong, I think they were comparing dry with curb. I assume it is RWD though because the only e-motor is at the rear.
296 [Hot!] Ferrari 296 GTB - New V6 Hybrid Supercar for 2022
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The Ferrari 296 (Type F171) is a two-seater, offered as a GTB coupe and a GTS folding hard-top convertible. Production: 2021- Predecessor: Ferrari F8.
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Not even that. Top Gear were comparing one fictional Ferrari weight with another fictional Ferrari weight. None of these weights are dry. Ferrari claims 1430kg "curb weight" for the F8 but that's definitely not the "curb weight", which is about 1600kg with a full tank. And based on the actual real weight, the 1430kg is not the dry weight either. It's definitely not the 1330kg that Ferrari is claiming. The 1470kg for the GTB is claimed by Ferrari to be the dry weight, but based on their record of weight claims that's almost certainly not the actual dry weight. Ferrari's "dry weight" is the car weighed without wheels on or something. Or better yet, it's completely made up like their Fiorano lap times.
Many manufacturers fudge the "dry weight" numbers because they know that we can never check, but Ferrari - and Italian car companies in general - are particularly shameless in that area. There are many examples of this. The latest one is the Maserati MC20 - claimed "curb" weight of 1500kg, real measured weight of 1620-1700kg. Then there is the Aventador with the claimed dry weight of 1575kg and a real measured weight of 1800kg (meaning the dry weight must be around 1680-1700kg). One especially egregious example was when Ferrari claimed "dry weight" of 1255kg for the LaFerrari - and the real weight was measured at 1585kg. As if by putting some coolant, oil and gas in you could make the car 330kg heavier. Not unless you were carrying a 300L drum full of gas in the passenger seat! (which wouldn't even fit in there)
Now, this is already bad enough, but what's even worse are these useless journos that can't be bothered to make the distinction between real measured weights and claimed dry weights, or ever question the manufacturer claims in any way. I mean, it's only their job. If people on forums can manage it in their free time, maybe it's time they got their shit together. Far from this being just some nerdy thing that nobody really cares about, the weights they mention in their reviews, etc, have a real impact on how people perceive the cars. The LaFerrari is the perfect example of this. Since Ferrari was claiming weight of 1255kg for the car and Porsche - much more reasonably - claimed 1640kg curb (which turned out to be very close to the actual measured weight) everyone, even some journalists and even to this day, thought that Porsche was caught sleeping and the LaFerrari (and the P1) were gonna be the superior cars. And, I mean, some manufactures have been blatantly lying about the weight of their cars since before I was born. Yet, instead of growing increasingly skeptical to anything they might say, it's as if car journalists were instead willing to take everything at face value more now than ever.
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I really like this car, I think it’s beautiful and I’m sure it will perform incredibly well. I want to order one but it’s a situation where I’d want to drive one first. That means I wouldn’t get a car until 2024, likely. That’s just so far out.
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I seriously hope you do it, bud...fingers crossed
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I think I want to drive both the 296 and the Artura. Price difference on specs is about $150k. That’s a lot. I’d want to make sure the Ferrari was worth it. Hopefully 2022 they’re available for a test.
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Every Ferrari is special because of the performance, the design, the style, but what makes the 296 GTB stand out?"
Enrico Galliera: “In this case, a specific effort has been put to make the 296 GTB the most fun to drive car in our product range. And this is something that will deliver an uncompromising and thrilling pleasure while driving, both on track, but also on normal roads.”
The combination of the turbo and hybrid engine will develop 830cv, which makes the most powerful engine in the segment. And the electric component is allowing us to further reduce almost to zero the turbo lag which means that there is an immediate response to the throttle.
But the engine is not enough, this car is much more compact, especially compared to any other model of the Ferrari product series. The car is much more compact and, most of all, we reduced the distance between the wheels, working on the concept of short wheelbase.
Together with the new vehicle dynamic control, we have really pushed the boundaries to the limit, and this is a car that reaches an incredible peak of fun to drive.
https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/magaz...social&utm_campaign=&utm_content=all_org_post
Enrico Galliera: “In this case, a specific effort has been put to make the 296 GTB the most fun to drive car in our product range. And this is something that will deliver an uncompromising and thrilling pleasure while driving, both on track, but also on normal roads.”
The combination of the turbo and hybrid engine will develop 830cv, which makes the most powerful engine in the segment. And the electric component is allowing us to further reduce almost to zero the turbo lag which means that there is an immediate response to the throttle.
But the engine is not enough, this car is much more compact, especially compared to any other model of the Ferrari product series. The car is much more compact and, most of all, we reduced the distance between the wheels, working on the concept of short wheelbase.
Together with the new vehicle dynamic control, we have really pushed the boundaries to the limit, and this is a car that reaches an incredible peak of fun to drive.
https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/magaz...social&utm_campaign=&utm_content=all_org_post
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